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They're currently where A24 was circa 2016/17 where they've had one or two solid hits, but the normies don't recognize their name just yet, nor do they have overpriced merch to make them seem cool to hipsters. I don't even think any of their movies have appeared on Netflix, while A24 hops to Netflix/Max/Hulu/Prime for mass exposure. I think Neon's stuff is Hulu-only. The guy who owns Neon threw shade at A24 for selling candles and shit, but that might not be a bad idea if they want to get to their level. Just saying.
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He’s doing his job reporting on the box office. And yeah, talking about historical lows and being negative over those objective truths are part of the job. Even if you “knew it would happen”, that’s still terrible. I mean the bigger issue is that only one movie opened to the expectations from box office nerds and the industry. Everything else opened below expectations. Even if you think IF or Fall Guy were predicted too high, that’s still really bad, very alarming news. If you can’t even open to 35M or 45M like what the industry projected, how can you not be disappointed or say negative stuff about it?
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Gotta be honest, the whole “Netflix movies have no impact” thing just doesn’t hold much water as the years go by. Like yeah, a lot of their movies come and go, but anecdotally, Don’t Look Up has been mentioned in climate change circles many a time,Leave the World Behind was brought up when some social media sites are down, Irishman is still brought up during Scorsese discussions online, Marriage Story memes were a huge thing, Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio gets brought up as a modern animated classic. Like Lana Condor was on Abbott Elementary a few weeks ago, and tweets were out saying “Look, it’s Lara Jean”. Sure, they might not be talked about as much as they do when they first came out, but that’s how every movie works. There’s a peak time for discussion for anything, then it dies down. Everything Everywhere isn’t talked as much after the Oscars, but you can’t say the movie isn’t popular. Really, the big reason why most Netflix movies don’t “leave impact” is because a good chunk of them either aren’t in popular media franchises that have been around for decades, or simply aren’t good or interesting. Like quality is a far bigger issue here than the platform, since the movies I listed all were a step above quality, or at least have more to say about them. Plus being a box office hit doesn’t automatically mean your movie left some big cultural impact. Like honestly, when was the last time you saw somebody talk about Free Guy out in the wild?
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The Disney Thread | Happy 90th to Donald Duck!
Eric Deetz replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in Box Office Discussion
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Sadly, I don't think these types of milestones aren't getting the same kind of push or priority as they used to. The last time we got some big fudge jobs to reach certain box office milestones was probably 2019 with The Addams Family. And even then, Rocketman and Downton Abbey didn't get any fudging. Post-COVID, The Bad Guys didn't get it even though it was only a couple million short, Bob Marley tried to do something and then stopped. I feel like those cable TV rights bonuses studios get for this kind of stuff don't really matter much or are worth it anymore.
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So I saw the signs from Quorum and shit that Furiosa wasn't going to open to all that...but I still expected it to at least open in the 30s. Like this kind of flat-out rejection, opening below fucking Tomorrowland, is absurd, and I genuinely can't grasp why for a movie that's still attached to one of the most beloved action movies of all time. It can't just be because this doesn't have any of the old cast. Planet of the Apes still opened on par with its predecessors and it didn't have the old cast. What the hell happened?
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I mean...it seems legit. Furiosa's estimated at 27, following TGM with a 7.5 True Friday gives it 28M. Garfield's estimated at 24, following Little Mermaid gives you...20M. So yeah, expecting a better IM from that, since there's no Disney Adults rushing to see it...24M for the 3-Day also sounds likely. But yeah, lol Deadline is probably gonna be lol Deadline, so...hopefully these can still get to Prince of Persia numbers...maybe? Hopefully? Maybe?
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No offense, but studios aren't going to extend the theatrical windows. I know you all want it to happen, and I know you all have good reasons why it should happen. But they've been movies things come to PVOD in 45 days, sometimes less, for three whole years now. And they haven't changed their tune whatsoever. If it was hurting their movies and their profits, they would have stopped. At some point, you have to accept the new normal. They see shortened windows and potentially smaller box office as more beneficial. You're just gonna have to deal with it. 🤷♂️