Eric Deetz

Moderation @Firepower enough with this passive aggressive “of course the haters are in full force” nonsense. Do this again, and you are leaving me with no other choice but to give you a threadban.

Dudebros don't like sissy musicals.

Yep. Was admittedly disappointed that this was just another boring, safe bit of nostalgia slop, but I'll take a bland "greatest hits" sequel compared to what Burton put out the last decade. I just finished rewatching all his movies, and his run from Alice in Wonderland through Dumbo can honestly be a contender for worst run of 2010s movies for any filmmaker. Zemeckis at least has one or two bright spots in the last decade or so.

Okay I might be wrong, because the gamer dudes that sometimes pop up on my Twitter feed, the people who always go nuts for these video game movies, aren’t buying what they are selling. 🤔

I’m praying this is just PR speak. Like ain’t no way.

We are in hell.

This looks positively dreadful. This will also make a zillion dollars.

All I care about are the Gaga raves. This can be trash on a stick for all I care as long as people are praising my queen.

Quorum Updates Transformers One T-16: 42.8% Awareness, 48.48% Interest Bagman T-23: 17.69% Awareness, 39.7% Interest The Wild Robot T-23: 28.06% Awareness, 39.82% Interest Flight Risk T-44: 27.48% Awareness, 48.71% Interest Nosferatu T-112: 17.04% Awareness, 37.93% Interest In the Grey T-135: 12.99% Awareness, 35.34% Interest Presence T-135: 7.93% Awareness, 36.09% Interest Beetlejuice Beetlejuice T-2: 76.93% Awareness, 69.33% Interest Final Awareness: 100% chance of 90M, 83% chance of 100M, 33% chance of 200M Tentpole Awareness: 100% chance of 100M Final Interest: 100% chance of 30M, 89% chance of 70M, 78% chance of 100M, 11% chance of 200M Tentpole Interest: 100% chance of 30M, 50% chance of 100M The Front Room T-2: 25.87% Awareness, 41.48% Interest Final Awareness: 17% chance of 10M Horror Awareness: 30% chance of 10M Final Interest: 46% chance of 10M Horror Interest: 42% chance of 10M Joker: Folie a Deux T-30: 66.15% Awareness, 64.63% Interest T-30 Awareness: 100% chance of 50M, 86% chance of 90M, 71% chance of 100M, 14% chance of 200M Tentpole Awareness: 100% chance of 50M, 67% chance of 100M T-30 Interest: 100% chance of 50M, 86% chance of 70M, 71% chance of 100M, 14% chance of 200M Tentpole Interest: 100% chance of 100M

They should have had the tagline be "Who Let the Dogs Out?"

I mean I think there are better ways to spend $100,000, but you do you I guess.

lmao I am so here for all of this. Like this was a movie made for me.

Well if you want an answer, I hid your post because we don’t do this “critics are out to get this movie” rhetoric, because it is conspiratorial and an easy starter for flame wars. You may think this isn’t controversial, but it 100% is. I’m just doing what I think is best for the forum. You may not like it, but it’s just how things are run. But if you’re really this passionate that your post must be seen, I decided to unhide your post. We will not allow this kind of rhetoric further, but I suppose I can let this one post slide. If you wish to discuss this further with me, my PMs are always open.

I mean my biggest issue with seeing Moana 2 reaching 600M is just how unprecedented that gross is, especially for animated films. We've only had two animated movies reach it, and both are Pixar films. And I feel like Pixar is a much stronger brand name in terms of bringing in adult audiences that aren't all that into Disney or animated movies in general. This is anecdotal, but my mom hasn't seen a movie from Disney Animation proper since Frozen came out, and she was super pumped for Inside Out 2, and saw Toy Story 4 the day it came out. My dad watches Monsters Inc or any of the Toy Story movies or Inside Out whenever they are on cable, and the last Disney Animation film he's seen is probably...I dunno, when he took me and my siblings to Lilo and Stitch? I also feel like streaming performance isn't the end all be all? Like Cars sold more copies on DVD than The Incredibles, but their sequel performances are night and day. And even if Cars 2 was actually good, I can't picture 600M...or whatever the equivalent of 600M in 2011 money would be. I dunno. I feel like even 400M would be a crazy overperformance for Moana 2, and I hope people aren't crying if it doesn't even reach that.

Quorum Updates Megalopolis T-25: 19.54% Awareness, 39.97% Interest Heretic T-74: 12.75% Awareness, 34.59% Interest Moana 2 T-86: 55.67% Awareness, 54.02% Interest Babygirl T-114: 11.38% Awareness, 33.61% Interest Beetlejuice Beetlejuice T-4: 75.45% Awareness, 69.11% Interest Final Awareness: 100% chance of 90M, 83% chance of 100M, 33% chance of 200M Tentpole Awareness: 100% chance of 100M Final Interest: 100% chance of 30M, 89% chance of 70M, 78% chance of 100M, 11% chance of 200M Tentpole Interest: 100% chance of 30M, 50% chance of 100M The Front Room T-4: 26.28% Awareness, 41.6% Interest Final Awareness: 17% chance of 10M Horror Awareness: 30% chance of 10M Final Interest: 46% chance of 10M Horror Interest: 42% chance of 10M The Killer's Game T-11: 25.24% Awareness, 45.55% Interest Final Awareness: 17% chance of 10M Low Awareness: 13% chance of 10M Final Interest: 46% chance of 10M Low Interest: 33% chance of 10M Speak No Evil T-11: 34.51% Awareness, 49.84% Interest Final Awareness: 40% chance of 10M Horror Awareness: 41% chance of 10M Final Interest: 46% chance of 10M Horror Interest: 42% chance of 10M Piece by Piece T-39: 18.69% Awareness, 35.58% Interest T-30 Awareness: 15% chance of 10M Animation/Family Awareness: 25% chance of 10M T-30 Interest: 30% chance of 10M Animation/Family Interest: 50% chance of 10M Terrifier 3 T-39: 27.11% Awareness, 40.88% Interest T-30 Awareness: 53% chance of 10M Horror Awareness: 63% chance of 10M T-30 Interest: 57% chance of 10M Horror Interest: 65% chance of 10M

How dare you say such a thing.

I mean I agree with you. But like...I'm just a guy and the rest of the team came to a different consensus. But yeah, we'll see if the staff and I can change things up.

We actually had a subforum a la On the Lot that was here in the main forum a few years ago, but it was moved to the TV show subforum because...well, we're a box office forum and streaming is box office's biggest competitor at the moment. However, I will bring this up with the staff and we'll see if we can take things back. You never know.

Can somebody explain to me where this whole "David Ehrlich hates it, so it must be good" thing came from? Because I saw this when he said Alien: Romulus and Dune 2 weren't all that, And like...he liked Twisters, he liked Longlegs, he liked Challengers, First Omen, Bad Boys, Furiosa, Planet of the Apes, Fall Guy, Wonka, Iron Claw, Songbirds and Snakes. He seems no different from any other movie critic out there.

lmao what