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@yjs I hadn't honestly considered the sequel angle. It is very possible that Dory doesn't get the award for that reason, and that's a huge hit for it. That would pretty much put Moana as the most likely target for Best Animated. I think Zoos biggest problem was it's early release. With a year of fantastic Animated films, it's easy for it to get lost in the shuffle behind more recent fair. There is enough quality we're spoiled for choice and the winner will surely deserve the nod. I'm more looking forward to this than best pic, honestly.

Gone With the Wind (15)Star Wars (15)E.T.: the Extra-Terrestrial (10) -3Titanic (0) -2The Ten Commandments (15)Jaws (15)Doctor Zhivago (10) Snow White and the Seven Dwarves (15)Star Wars: The Force Awakens (15)The Empire Strikes Back (15)Ben-Hur (15)Avatar (15)

Zordon was Head in a tube guy.

Pixar feels like it has house advantage. Of course, Dory is 94 to Braves 78. with Zoo being a 98 to Ralph's 87. Dory like Brave also has earned more money to Zoo. But we're in the zone of everything is in the 90% for Best Animated feature, especially since Dory has 25 more reviews on RT than Zootopia, so it's not an equal 1:1 for critical review, so it isn't a fair fight. (that's kind of glancing blow, I'd have to research it more.) Back to Brave/Dory. Brave won, despite being 9 points less on RT than Ralph. Dory is only 4 points less, with both being at very high percentages. So we have a high grossing, well received Pixar movie, the odds lean in it's favor. Granted my normal argument could apply to Dory, since the only thing special is it's Pixar, but Pixar is a high water mark in animation, and naturally has advantages to that. Of course, with the rise of WDAS again we may see the tone shift, but even then, I feel Disney would push Moana harder than Zoo, sadly. For transparency's sake, my horse is The Little Prince, so this is all academic to me, since my favorite won't win. (Though I'd love a Netflix distributed film to win, because it could cause interesting shockwaves in film distribution.)

Interesting. I'd still put Dory as the most likely to win. My biggest problem with Zoo as a winner is that it's pretty normal. It's a very good movie, but it doesn't feel special, especially in a year of fantastic animation. It doesn't have an indy feel, it isn't unique in it's animation style, it isn't Pixar. And if you're WDAS with two big Oscar pushes, you're more likely to push the more recent candidate than the older one, because Moana will be easier for the voters to remember and judge.

Gaiman would have been a good script doctor for the film. As a whole, I think Gaiman working with Laika should happen more. Laika has a lot of the unconventional look that would match brilliant with works like Sandman or Neverwhere.

Laika would be a great studio to adapt some more of Neil Gaiman's work, novel or comics. I'm now thinking of a Sandman adaptation done by Laika...

I'm glad they didn't. And my reasons for wanting the DCEU to fail are purely petty, and not because of some DCvMarvel thing. But, I can't argue that SS is showing strong and personally, I find it the best of the three in the universe so far.

Total flop, surprised Marvel didn't just kill the franchise right there.

Rango and Incredibles didn't have this kind of competition. Dory has great buzz and very popular. It's Pixar and a good Pixar has the best track record with this category than anything else. Academy loves it's pity. and the difference between Ghibli and Laika is that Ghibli has won.

Why I said tends to. over 50% of the nominees that win are the highest grossing of the nominated. It's why honest, Dory has the best chance of winning, it's Pixar and it's huge. Zootopia is kind of screwed in that regard, this is a year of great animation, and it's the one with the least noteworthy things about it, and will get overshadowed by Moana from Disney during Oscar pushing (assuming of course, Moana does well critically and financially). Kubo is a very beautiful film, and may be the best of the bunch, but it isn't a clear winner by any stretch. What it does have is Pity. It will be the fifth film by Laika (Including Corpse Bride) to be nominated. The Academy loves to throw bones to repeat noms without wins.

The Academy tends to pick the highest grossing Animated film that gets nominated.

I can see, and have, the average viewer getting irked by that narrative as a whole, because it isn't complex. But it is very much the type of story that it's trying to tell.

I plan on dragging at least one friend this weekend.

I believe Knight has talked about Ghibli being an inspiration for the film. Though I couldn't tell you where I heard it.

Kubo was pretty good.

Kubo

I'm sure. I just want Kubo to make more money.

Cool. Still say you should see it in theaters. but that's pretty cool, and don't blame you for taking advantage of it.

My college usually had movie nights, but don't recall recent flicks being common.

That doesn't mean I don't want higher numbers.

Same. also, Boo that Kubo number. That better jump today.

Yes, but I'm still glad it had some of that horror element to the movie. But, I don't see the Pixar comparison though.

2D. I'm jealous, this movie would look great in 3D. 2nd best animated movie for me. Little Prince eels out first, but that hit very specific emotional nerves for me. Kubo is gorgeous. The best Laika's put out.