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    Death of a Nation | Quality Flix | August 3rd, 2018 | right-wing documentary to release in over 1,000 theaters

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    4 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

    The 1st part (calling out the actions) is totally fine - it's the 2nd part:)...as I tell my kids, it's the difference between what someone does and what someone is...aka, when your 6 year old whacks your 4 year old, you tell the 6 year old that they did a bad thing VS telling them they are a bad kid.  I have no problem calling out actions, but that's different than "being."

     

    It sometimes seems like a distinction without a difference.  But I think it's one of the most important things we can do in discourse.  

     

    I'm still fine with calling a lying liar, who purposefully lies without moral issue in order to gain money at the expense of other people's lives, and who then furthers this by trying to divide people further and spread hatred and information, a monster.

     

    I'd agree with you, if I thought it was possible to have a discourse with a man who knows he's lying, who doesn't care that he's lying, who doesn't care that he's hurting people, so long as it makes him money. That's just it. He isn't just doing a bad thing. He's doing a bad thing knowing it's a bad thing, and will continue doing a bad thing without any moral issues because it feeds his greed. He. Is. A. Monster.

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    Death of a Nation | Quality Flix | August 3rd, 2018 | right-wing documentary to release in over 1,000 theaters

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    1 hour ago, Slambros said:

    Well, what are the 'informed' informed of, then? And how were they informed?

    They were informed by anything of any historical accuracy from that covers the last 100 years. I'm not talking about political leanings. I'm talking about things that are historical fact. Like that in the mid 20th century the Democratic and Republican Party flipped ideology. D'Souza will use historically true things about Democrats in the late 1800s to try and say that's what the party is like today, without acknowledging the huge ideological shift in the parties that occurred. It's horribly irresponsible and frankly, reprehensible. That is literally the premise of this movie, that because the Democrats were racist in the late 1900s they're really the racists now. It's ludicrous, and ignores any and very historical context of the last 50 years of the party.

     

    1 hour ago, Slambros said:

    And I'm gonna have to see from an analysis video in the future on whether or not the film is lying to people. I'll also have to see a 'works cited' list, or a lack of one, before I can definitely say that they are lies. Because right now, I've only seen that the film has poorly-made arguments. And they have a right to make that argument, even though it should be explained more in depth.

    I'm sorry, but no. Don't watch a video. Go to a library. Do the research, check multiple sources. And I wish you luck on finding a list of sources for his films. He doesn't list them on his website, far as I can tell.

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    Death of a Nation | Quality Flix | August 3rd, 2018 | right-wing documentary to release in over 1,000 theaters

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    52 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

     

    Stepping on soapbox:)...

     

    I'm not taking a position on the movie or the filmmaker.

     

    BUT...I do hate reading posts that take away someone's humanity.  As flawed, misguided, and potentially wrong you feel the director is, he's still a person, not a monster.  And people always have the ability to change/grow/be redeemed/etc.  Usually, you reach people by keeping this mindset, not designating them as something less than human...if only b/c you are better than that, even if the other person may not be.

     

    Okay, soapbox over:)...(and yes, I probably sound like slambros, but that's not a bad thing:)...

    I'm sorry, but I'm still in the camp of D'Souza is a monster. If he shows him self to grow and be better I'll stop thinking of him as such. But right now, he's purposefully lying in the form of propaganda wrapped in Documentary in order to get rich off of ignorant people by feeding into their fears and validating falsehoods that only serve to weaken the country as a whole. That is monstrous behavior that should be called out as such.

     

    If I'm wrong for pointing at someone doing monstrous and destructive things and calling him a monster, than I'm pretty much fine with being wrong right now.

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    Death of a Nation | Quality Flix | August 3rd, 2018 | right-wing documentary to release in over 1,000 theaters

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    1 hour ago, Slambros said:

     

    There's people with families at Quality Flix, and there's people with families that worked on the film, and I don't think it'd be good for anyone to be shortchanged due to an overly low gross. In this regard, I always hope that films do as well as they can. The film might deserve to flop, but the filmmakers don't deserve to starve. That's why I think it's good that the President of the United States has endorsed this film, because that is a direct message to the film's target audience.

     

    Would I be wrong to be happy about that?

     

    The film is renderred harmless, anyway. It's not like anyone on the left isn't going to dismiss this.

    D'Souza is a propagandist and is purposefully feeding the people who go to this movie lies in order to feed his own wallet, with little regard to the truth or history. Thus making this film far from harmless since it will only propagate falsehoods and further entrench a country into a divisive state, all for D'Souza to make more money. You're actively happy about propaganda being fed to the uninformed to keep them uninformed and even to further stir up anger and hatred.

     

    Also, Trump Jr. endorsed the film, not Trump.

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    Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 | May 5, 2023 | The 9th most profitable film of 2023

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    46 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

    Reading the responses to their tweets most people still don't get that they never followed Gunn so they couldn't unfollow him. They're either telling them to unfollow Gunn or praising them for supporting Gunn... 

     

     :bash:

     

     

    My favorite are the ones who feel the need to point out that they do not currently follow Gunn, and aren't capable of making the next logical step on their own, and then get mad at them for not spelling it out for them.

     

    Our society!

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    Christopher Robin | August 3, 2018 | 70% on RT (and rising!)

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    Just now, Barnack said:

    He gave it a really good 3/4 score

    https://www.geek.com/movies/moviebob-reviews-a-wrinkle-in-time-1733043/

     

    Cars 3 got also a passable 2.5/4:

    https://www.geek.com/movies/moviebob-reviews-cars-3-1703366/

     

    I think the last pirate movie ?: 1/4

    https://www.geek.com/movies/moviebob-reviews-pirates-of-the-caribbean-dead-men-tell-no-tales-1700713/

    Coulda sworn that was a middling review. huh. Maybe I confused him with someone else. Bob is an...ok reviewer. I catch enough false things in his reviews that make me leery of his actual critique, but he's entertaining enough, I guess.

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