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Yeah, but at the same time people calling it the biggest flop of all time are over the top, too. In the end, this thing will gross over 1X budget that while awful, it ain't Cutthroat Island levels of floppage by a long shot.

Ah yeah, forgot that one. That definitely counts.

Pitch Perfect 2 came out a year later, but yeah, that's still not good. I can't think of any pure comedy (not animated) doing over 150 mil since then.

He's not wrong. However, I resent the word "intervention" like this was the work of some hidden cabal instead of free market at work - whether you like it or not. What happened is that a new actor (Netflix), came up with a better product (not talking about quality of the content, just how convenient it is for consumers) but that has lesser margins than those enjoyed by legacy companies. Inevitably these companies had to follow Netflix or have their business diminished. It's very similar to what happened to the music industry post-digitalization. Margins were much higher back in the days of physical media, compared to the days of Spotify. But consumers very much like paying 10 bucks for unlimited access to content and once that genie is out of the bottle is hard to put it back. What am I worried about is that once the dust settles creatives will be the ones that get the hose.

Making it an in-universe movie (that the toy in the Toy Story movies is based on) was a clever twist but ultimately a mistake. People didn't recognize the character they wanted to see.

The dinamic between Indy and PWB is the only thing that livened up the movie for me during the middle half. As you say, squabbling with his partner (man or woman) is a classic Indy trope. I think her arc could have done better, but it's the least of the movie's problems.

I have seen the movie. I didn't love it, didn't hate it either. Some of the criticism is wide off the mark though - PWB for example is a great foil to Indy, and livened up a middle act that otherwise was pretty bland. Also, the movie has a good approach to Indiana Jones as a character - he's treated with maturity. It's probably the one movie among the recent crop of nostalgia bait that does the aging hero the best. Indy is vulnerable - the world has moved on, and he's lonely. I found that part of the movie fresh (and in the right dose, it doesn't overdo the drama). In that regard, I found the ending quite satisfying. Again, the main sin of the movie is that the action scenes are bland and unimaginative. There are all the required bits of an Indy movie (tombs! puzzles! creepy crawlies! chases in exotic locales!), but there's little creativity and imagination, particulary compared to how wickedly fun and inventive the old ones were. The best one is the opening 1945 scene - although it's marred a bit by the ocasional drifts into uncanny valley and the accompanying darkness to cover all the SFX. But it's fun, perfectly paced, and feels very Indy-ish. All in all, the problem is that there's very little memorable stuff in this film. Exception is the ending which I thought was clever, but I think many people will dislike it for being "too much". Myself, I felt they could have milked the idea even more. EDIT: As a side note the Temple of Doom poster that my parents got me when the movie came out in the 1980s is framed and hanging in my living room - it has followed me to every place I've lived. I'm certainly the target demographic, which makes it weird that I'm so tepid on it.

Reminds me of the first writing contract I signed (I'm not in the US, so I'm not WGA) where they put in language where I gave up all royalties for the outer space and other planets if they were ever colonized. No Mars royalties for me Anyway, this is a reminder that producers will make you give up every single thing they can think of unless legally prevented from doing so - bargaining power will always be unequal - which is why this strike and the upcoming ones are so important to protect talent from predatory practices. Also, so you know how bad things are in the ROTW, every single contract I sign nowadays has a clause where they can fire me if I ever join the WGA,

That seems pretty fair to me. Nolan swings for the fences with this one and imho it's not entirely successful, but in the end you walk out of the film feeling that you've never watched something like that, and that feeling is so rare these days... I hope he mantains his status and can keep doing Nolan stuff despite the relatively tepid reception.

Say what you will about the prequels - and I certainly would rather watch any of the Disney movies than be subjected to those again, - but at least they had a coherent vision and continuity. It was just shittily executed. Has anything ever leaked about Lucas' plan for 7-9?

Genisys killed any chance this movie had. The "back to basics" approach might have worked with a 10 year wait, and also Genisys was so wretched that most casual moviegoers were probably still turned off.

Back from seeing the movie. It's decent entertainment, comfortably better than Salvation or Genisys, and probably more solid as entertainment than T3 (which however has that kickass ending and generally tries to be more inventive). The problem is that it's a really thinly disguised rethread of the T1-T2 formula and I really wanted something juicier, particularly knowing that Cameron was somewhat involved. It really feels they tried to ape the TFA formula (recycle plot from the classics, throw in a young cast alongside the old cast), except this one bombed.

Netflix has a very significant international library. Lots of local shows, including a healthy stream of Netflix originals, their competitors don't come nowhere near that (HBO and Amazon have some deals with local partners in some markets, but nowhere near Netflix's footprint). That will make Netflix stickier ROW, imho. locally-produced TV is still the bread and butter in many places.

Over here it looks like it's getting dumped. I wasn't even sure wether it opened day and date with the US given how little marketing was out there! I just rechecked cinema listings because it doesn't really feel like this move is opening tomorrow.

It's a film with very little action and certainly next to none showoff SFX. The fact is going to gross 1 bill is simply incredible given today's tastes and dependence on the Chinese market to achieve these figures. Truly historic run.

No, I presume he quit/didn't stand for reelection by the time the events of the new flick come around. He survived the second movie. Poor Eckhart, his career seems pretty done atm.

Yeah, it's not that he himself was in a hot streak: Chain Reaction, Johnny Mnemonic... his post-Speed run was pretty awful. Kudos to him for not taking the easy road to another hit. I think he did Devil's Advocate instead? Good decision if that's the case. Devil's Advocate is trashy fun, but great trashy fun.

It has grown 15% DOM and 25% WW, that seems really healthy. Moreso when you take into account that FFH had less starpower than Homecoming due to lack of RDJ. Yes, other Marvel sagas have grown more %-wise throughout their sequels (Cap, Thor), but they didn't start so close to the ceiling as Spidey did. It won't reach 400 DOM which is why some people might be slightly down on the film, but all in all it's a great performance.

What's the board's consensus on OUATIH's final DOM? My crummy napkin math says high 130s. I would love it to beat Inglorious Basterd's adjusted (145M) but that seems a bridge too far?

Stuber is one of these films where I watched the trailer and thought "why is this a movie?"

The musical is essentially a bunch of disconnected dance/song numbers with a really thin frame story. Even ignoring the furry weirdness I really don't see this working as a film.

Yep, they even bring back Claire Danes' character (the future wife of John Connor) in Salvation.

I'm going to have to agree here. The whole story and concept for the villain is flat-out ridiculous and danced circles around my suspension of disbelief (and my suspension of disbelief is very high). Also all the "weighty" moments of the film (Spidey trying to fill Iron Man's very large and heavy shoes) just felt perfunctory and not taken seriously. That said, the cast made it watchable. Enjoyed the teen comedy bits more than the actual superhero stuff, which is weird.

They are opening a Spiderman ride over at Disneyland Paris, too. I think the ancillary benefits of keeping Spidey popular outweigh other considerations - since as others pointed out Sony wasn't just going to sell them back the character, he's far too valuable. We'll see what happens when Sony and Disney have to come beack to the table to extend the deal. IIRC it's supposed to run out once they release a third solo Spidey movie, right? I do wonder if Sony would be tempted to pull back in order to be able to mix Spidey with their own fledging shared universe, though.

Great weekend for Aladdin. Unless Toy Story 4 obliterates it next weekend it should reach 300m rather comfortably. I'm seeing 304-306m right now. Nice to have a Memorial Day success story once again after the past few years.