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    POKEMON DETECTIVE PIKACHU - 283.2M OS - 425.5M WW

    in International Box Office

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    26 minutes ago, BK007 said:

    Those OS numbers are horrific. 

     

    I'm at a loss to understand why or how. 

     

    How does Pokemon Go make billions of dollars and have hundreds of millions of downloads and no one is interested to see the film? And it's not like it looked terrible. 

     

    Personally I don't really like the movie, but the facts are that for however good the trailer seemed to be, it didn't translate to butts on seats. Why? The quality of the movie itself is irrelevant for OW but how did that marketing not get people to come watch it? 

     

    Any ideas? Did EG use up all the household's disposable income? 

    Like someone else said in weekend thread , here are the possible reasons :

    1. Its target audience aka the gamer. There’s a reason why every video game movie until now either underperform or flop and that’s because the target audience itself. Gamers usually not go to cinema often or even not interested to go unlike the general audience. Very few gamers that go to cinema to watch the movie and that already limited its gross. 

    2. Avengers Endgame. Perhaps you’re wondering ‘ what about the general audience, they could show up right?? ‘. The answer is yes. They could show up but with Endgame being the phenomenon right now , most people if not all who loves going to cinema already spent their money and not every general audience could go to cinema every weekend + looking the competition ahead , maybe they would like to spend their money to the next big movie. And that’s limited it’s gross again.

    3. This is just my opinion , Stigma. Before this the highest rated video game movie stands at 52% RT :gold:. And almost all of them turned out to be disappointing or straight up rejected by the audience. Maybe the audience recognizes that and raises a stigma ‘ ugh, another Video game movie. Pretty sure it will turn out bad again.” And there goes another potential gross.

     

    Weekend Thread: Friday Estimates: Pika pi! 20.7m, Assemble! 16.1m, Anne Hathaway! 4m, Cheerleaders: Endgame 1.5m, LotR: Origins 825k

    in Numbers and Data

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    32 minutes ago, captainwondyful said:

    John Wick's Gonna lay a beatdown on Thanos.  It's inevitable. 

    Chapter 2 only made $41M WW opening and I predict Endgame to still raking in about $80M WW on weekend 4. So it needs to double that amount to beat Endgame. Still a possibility with better than expected US debut + different release pattern. But,  I would say that the odds still in Endgame’s favor.

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    AVENGERS ENDGAME | 1939.4 M overseas ● 2797.8 M worldwide

    in International Box Office

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    2 minutes ago, Thrylos 7 said:

    The weekdays OS have been far stronger than U.S, why are some people predicting a similar gross from the U.S and OS in the upcoming weekend ? Going in the weekend with around 2.330 it seems that 2.5 after the weekend should be a lock (65-70 U.S and around 100 OS). What’s this 2450 that I am reading about, that would indicate a total collapse overseas. Am I missing something here ?

    This. Maybe some are a little cautious that DP could hurt Endgame third weekend number while maybe some others are predicting based on previous weekends multiplier. The former is ok but I don't think the latter is Probable. The opening weekend had China skew the multiplier cause of holiday ( dropping on Saturday and Sunday ) and the previous weekend had Russia and China ( again ). But all things come back to normal this weekend so we should see a regular pattern.

    Wednesday Numbers | Asgard 1: EndGame 8.4M Wed

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    32 minutes ago, setna said:

    I said yesterday before tuesday numbers appeared and some laughed on me. I see today more people are joining to see EG slowing down a lot.

    I don´t see it even touching 850....those first days were out of this world and the appeal of this movie is not the same than Titanic, Avatar or TFA, at least in the US, because i don´t see it beating this movies in the adjusted total

    Of course we laughed. What did you expect us to react to a person who predicting a drop from Monday to Tuesday.

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    Tuesday May 7 - AEG12.518 LS1.38 Intruder1.33 Ugly708.8k BT560k LaLorona458k CM394 Shazam!294k Little193 Code Geass173

    in Numbers and Data

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    10 minutes ago, Nakamura said:

    It can pass avatar???

    I’ll be honest with you. I love when people ask about something but your question seems kinda annoying. I feel like you always ask the same question every day over and over. Goddamn it. Just give it some time before you ask the same question again please.. cause you’ll always get the same answer if you asked it day by day...

    Tuesday May 7 - AEG12.518 LS1.38 Intruder1.33 Ugly708.8k BT560k LaLorona458k CM394 Shazam!294k Little193 Code Geass173

    in Numbers and Data

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    Wtf is going on??!! Stop it please. It’s just misunderstanding. 

    That Tuesday number is good but not great. The jump is softer than what many of us thought based on IW run , that’s why many feel the number is low. It’s okay to feel disappoint about the number cause of our own expectation. The most important thing , there’s no silly talk about crumbling or collapse just based on these number and honestly it makes me thinking about why y’all keep arguing for a thing that never exist lol.

     

    AVENGERS ENDGAME | 1939.4 M overseas ● 2797.8 M worldwide

    in International Box Office

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    1 hour ago, Omni said:

    It's not so hard to miss it. Well, it wasn't based on a 1.78B total thru Thursday, but since actuals are at 1.786B it's certainly more difficult now.

     

    Main reason for projecting a sub-2.2B total on Sunday is past evidence for highly hyped movies: it looks like most of the times something goes wrong (ex. low Friday rise) and the numbers, while great, feel a little underwhelming. Additional reason is that using IW's behaviour on 2nd weekend OS-China, the 3-day Fri-Sun gross for EG (assuming a 42/43M OS-Ch Thursday) could easily go under 200M.

     

    My maths actually gave me 2.22B from a 1.78B projection (my gut said otherwise). Using the actual figure, it's 2.23B. We'll see how much of a weekend movie it is.

    I'm confused. Isn't it easier when the actuals came at $1.786B than $1.78B? That's $6M more it could miss during this weekend and still made over $2.2B. I mean $1.786B actual is better than $1.78B but why did you say it will become more difficult?

    JAPAN BOX OFFICE | Demon Slayer breaks all time record for OW

    in International Box Office

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    Via Corpse :
     
    Friday, 05/03 (National Holiday - Constitution Day)
    ¥315,000,000 ($2.8 million), +370%, ¥6,725,000,000 ($61.4 million), Detective Conan: The Fist of Blue Sapphire (Toho) Day 22
    ¥305,000,000 ($2.7 million), -43%, ¥3,605,000,000 ($32.3 million), Avengers: Endgame (Disney) Day 08
    ¥300,000,000 ($2.7 million), 0, ¥300,000,000 ($2.7 million), Detective Pikachu (Toho) NEW
    ¥215,000,000 ($1.9 million), +174%, ¥2,880,000,000 ($25.8 million), Kingdom (Toho/Sony) Day 15
    ¥100,000,000 ($895,000), +871%, ¥1,395,000,000 ($12.4 million), Crayon Shin-chan: Honeymoon Hurricane, The Lost Hiroshi (Toho) Day 15
    ¥x50,000,000 ($445,000), 0, ¥x50,000,000 ($445,000), Kakegurui (Gaga) NEW
    ¥x25,000,000 ($225,000), +99%, ¥610,000,000 ($5.4 million), Shazam! (Warner Bros.) Day 15
    ¥x20,000,000 ($180,000), 0, ¥x20,000,000 ($180,000), Lupinranger VS Patranger VS Kyuranger (Toei Video Division) NEW
    ¥x15,000,000 ($135,000), +208%, ¥3,575,000,000 ($32.3 million), Tonde Saitama (Toei) Day 71

    Note: Daily Estimates based on Weekend Estimates (actuals won't be out for over a week); margin-of-error is higher than usual.
    % changes versus same day last week.

    Upcoming:
    May 4th - Greenery Day (National Holiday)
    May 5th - Children's Day (National Holiday)
    May 6th - Declared National Holiday (Monday after a holiday)
     
     
    Okay, I'm pretty sure some will come in here thinking Detective Pikachu "disappointed/bombed", or something, but it hasn't. First, it's very early and it's hard to make such a claim after a single day (especially during a holiday week). Second, the number is actually pretty good. It's about on par with the average first day of the annual Pokemon film franchise every July.

    There was nothing indicating that Detective Pikachu would be a huge film in Japan. It's always a major misconception that a Hollywood adaptation of a popular Japanese source will be a monster hit in the market, but that's never the case. Hollywood adaptations of domestic source material are always a very difficult sell, often being met with rejection, and have to rely on positive WOM to make them hits. The Japanese reactions to the trailer (Pokemon designs) were lukewarm at best, too.  

    Also, considering that the Pokemon franchise is almost exclusively a children's franchise in the market, it was going to be hard to directly appeal to them with a darker live-action film. Japan, of course, won't have that nostalgia factor that many other markets will probably have toward the film either.

     

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    Avengers: Endgame Wednesday Thread: 25.25M

    in Numbers and Data

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    11 minutes ago, A Panda of Ice and Fire said:

    Just to remind newer users about that “Not cool” reaction.

     

    Not Cool doesn’t add reputation to the user you react to with it.  It’s meant as a way to react to a user who’s post was in poor taste.

     

    If, for example a user posts information that the Phillipines was showing a pirated version of Endgame, it’d be more appropriate to react with a WTF or Disbelief reaction.  As not cool could be seen as an insult to the user.

     

    Or if it’s to somebody who gives a decent rundown of predictions you disagree with, you could either not react or do a WTF reaction.  They weren’t in poor character/taste by posting predictions.

     

    An example of when to use the not cool reaction would be if somebody says “Your mother is a fat whore” or they say something racist.

     

    Just kind of a reminder what situation is usually seen as best to use that reaction in as not everyone may be aware that it functions differently.

    Shivampa/Manhunt/Matthew/MadmenEndgame -(02/21/19)- Permanently Banned  for trolling multiple threads and creating a duplicate account. 

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