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    Dead Weekend Walking Thread: Actuals - MIB International $30.03M | TSLOP2 $24.41M | Aladdin $17.31M | Rocketman $9.42M | Dark Phoenix $9.35M | SHAFT $8.90M

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    Summary of 'right' and 'wrong' regarding this summer movie season so far:

    1. Rocketman : everything went right before and after release.

    2. DP : Reverse Rocketman

    3. Aladdin : everything went wrong before release then suddenly everything went right after the release.

    4. Godzilla : reverse Aladdin.

    5. Pets 2 : nothing right or wrong. Just karma for making a sequel to forgettable movie.

    6. MiB : same like Pets. It is what it deserves.

     

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    Frozen II | Nov 22 2019 | 2nd Most Profitable Movie of 2019. Disney does it again! | Documentary series coming to D+ June 26

    in Box Office Discussion

    Posted

    34 minutes ago, TMP said:

    Aren't they like teenagers lmao

      Ha?! They definitely do not look like teenagers. They look like mature women in the 20s ( at least judging by their looks on animations ). 

       

      36 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

      if anything, they toned down other elements such as Olaf, romance, comedy. 

      No big deal. I'm pretty sure they just making all the elements to balance and work to each other.

      JAPAN BOX OFFICE | Demon Slayer breaks all time record for OW

      in International Box Office

      Posted

      Actuals and Charts from Corpse :

       

      Aladdin's opening weekend actual was released, and it grossed ¥1,122,000,000 ($10.3 million) on 766,000 admissions over the weekend frame. After 3-days in release, it grossed ¥1,396,000,000 ($12.9 million) on 960,000 admissions (the 3-day total will be exact later this evening).  

      Below is what I believe is the complete list of Opening Weekends & Totals for Walt Disney releases since 1998 (data is scarce before then), but I could have missed a couple films. I've done separate lists for the various Disney franchises, but never a full one for Walt Disney as a whole, so let me know if I overlooked something. Just note that while many of the films represent both lists, there are some entries that just made one of them, so if that's the case I didn't make a mistake.

      Walt Disney Box Office History (1998-)

      Top Opening Weekends
      ¥1.944 billion ($16.5 million) / 1,421,738 - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (2006) 
      ¥1.471 billion ($12.1 million) / 1,186,413 - Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (2007)
      ¥1.316 billion ($14.0 million) / 828,149 - Alice in Wonderland (2010)
      ¥1.245 billion ($10.3 million) / 800,258 - Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) 
      ¥1.205 billion ($14.7 million) / 773,184 - Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011) 
      ¥1.125 billion ($9.9 million) / 737,467 - Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017) 
      ¥1.122 billion ($10.3 million) / 766,000 - Aladdin (2019)
      ¥1.065 billion ($9.7 million) / 729,114 - Beauty and the Beast (2017) 
      ¥1.048 billion ($9.3 million) / 771,556 - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales (2017) 
      ¥1.037 billion ($8.9 million) / 814,000 - The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2006)
      ¥977.3 million ($11.1 million) / 649,249 - Toy Story 3 (2010)
      ¥962.0 million ($8.7 million) / 628,000 - Avengers: Endgame (2019)
      ¥898.0 million ($8.4 million) / 724,000 - Finding Nemo (2003)
      ¥847.4 million ($8.5 million) / 614,969 - Monsters University (2013)
      ¥793.9 million ($6.5 million) / 505,521 - Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015)
      ¥763.4 million ($7.5 million) / 602,347 - Frozen (2014)
      ¥751.9 million ($7.3 million) / 604,355 - The Incredibles (2004)
      ¥745.5 million ($7.1 million) / 553,066 - Finding Dory (2016)
      ¥691.7 million ($6.8 million) / 500,837 - Maleficent (2014)
      ¥672.4 million ($6.2 million) / 437,209 - Avengers: Infinity War (2018)
      ¥653.4 million ($5.7 million) / 413,604 - Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016)
      ¥627.7 million ($7.2 million) / 440,804 - Up (2009)
      ¥600.4 million ($5.2 million) / 463,556 - Big Hero 6 (2014)
      ¥590.7 million ($4.5 million) / 465,624 - Monsters, Inc. (2002) 
      ¥589.5 million ($5.1 million) / 466,480 - Moana (2017)
      ¥556.1 million ($4.7 million) / 419,796 - Cinderella (2015)
      ¥546.5 million ($5.3 million) / 434,670 - The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian (2008)
      ¥545.9 million ($4.5 million) / 410,089 - Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)
      ¥504.9 million ($4.2 million) / 379,941 - Ratatouille (2007)
      ¥504.1 million ($4.6 million) / 394,231 - The Haunted Mansion (2004)
      ¥500.9 million ($6.3 million) / 326,110 - The Avengers (2012)

      Top Grossing Films
      ¥25.48 billion ($249.6 million) / 20.03 million - Frozen (2014)
      ¥12.40 billion ($109.7 million) / 8.95 million - Beauty and the Beast (2017) 
      ¥11.80 billion ($142.8 million) / 7.30 million - Alice in Wonderland (2010) 
      ¥11.63 billion ($96.3 million) / 7.48 million - Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) 
      ¥11.00 billion ($102.4 million) / 8.60 million - Finding Nemo (2003) 
      ¥10.90 billion ($102.4 million) / 8.40 million - Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (2007) 
      ¥10.80 billion ($130.7 million) / 7.20 million - Toy Story 3 (2010)
      ¥10.02 billion ($82.3 million) / 7.75 million - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (2006)
      ¥9.37 billion ($76.8 million) / 7.60 million - Monsters, Inc. (2002)
      ¥9.18 billion ($77.7 million) / 7.22 million - Big Hero 6 (2014) 
      ¥8.96 billion ($91.3 million) / 7.05 million - Monsters University (2013) 
      ¥8.87 billion ($114.9 million) / 5.86 million - Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011) 
      ¥7.63 billion ($70.6 million) / 5.91 million - Zootopia (2016) 
      ¥7.51 billion ($66.3 million) / 5.05 million - Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017) 
      ¥6.86 billion ($56.4 million) / 5.60 million - The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2006) 
      ¥6.83 billion ($65.8 million) / 5.57 million - Finding Dory (2016)
      ¥6.80 billion ($60.3 million) / 5.10 million - Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003)
      ¥6.71 billion ($60.2 million) / 4.55 million - Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales (2017)
      ¥6.53 billion ($63.5 million) / 4.98 million - Maleficent (2014)
      ¥5.78 billion ($52.3 million) / 3.94 million - Avengers: Endgame (2019) [6 Weeks in Release]
      ¥5.73 billion ($46.6 million) / 4.46 million - Cinderella (2015) 
      ¥5.26 billion ($51.1 million) / 4.40 million - The Incredibles (2004)
      ¥5.16 billion ($46.1 million) / 4.25 million - Moana (2017) 
      ¥5.00 billion ($46.6 million) / 3.98 million - Coco (2018)
      ¥5.00 billion ($60.5 million) / 3.80 million - Up (2009)
      ¥4.90 billion ($44.3 million) / 4.06 million - Incredibles 2 (2018)
      ¥4.90 billion ($40.2 million) / 3.95 million - Dinosaur (2001)
      ¥4.63 billion ($39.9 million) / 3.08 million - Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016)
      ¥4.25 billion ($37.2 million) / 3.50 million - Aladdin (1993)
      ¥4.04 billion ($33.6 million) / 3.40 million - Inside Out (2015)
      ¥4.00 billion ($44.2 million) / 3.20 million - Wall-E (2008)

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      AVENGERS ENDGAME | 1939.4 M overseas ● 2797.8 M worldwide

      in International Box Office

      Posted

      If I was Disney, I wouldn't re-release or getting expansion or fudging or whatever it called to push EG over Avatar. That way , I can promote Avatar 2 much easier with 'highest grossing worldwide' sort of thing and that would really help Avatar 2. Then , I would wait until Avatar 2 being released and finishes its run. If Avatar 2 can't take the record then it's the right time to finally push EG over Avatar. Also the almost 3 years gap between EG and the re-release will make more significant amount of money and getting the record much easier. Win-win situation.

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      Godzilla: King of the Monsters OS thread

      in International Box Office

      Posted

      59 minutes ago, Justin4125 said:

      I mean technically Aladdin went from 78M to 54M (13.6M from new territories including Japan), but I understand your point.

       

      But no one here was ever comparing KoTM to Aladdin. They are categorically two different kind of films, with KoTM skewing away from families and more fan driven, making it naturally more frontloaded  (though of course in this case its a bit excessively frontloaded). KoTM also made a bigger percentage of its revenue in fast-burn markets like China and regions in SE asia, so again, comparing 2nd weekend drops between Aladdin and KoTM is mostly apples to oranges

       

      Also, about KoTM dropping faster than G14, G14's second weekend was a holiday. no doubt it would have fallen harder otherwise. So I would say KoTM may hold a bit better from here than G14 did (G14 dropped 66.8% 2nd weekend and 61.2% third weekend). Still, I dont think it has much more than 25M in the tank domestically. Internatioanlly, this 2nd weekend drop wasnt that bad, on par with most day-to-date release superhero flicks like Shazam, CM and AEG (or FotF) which are much better comparisons given the naturally frontloaded nature of these films).

       

      Still, even if Godzilla drops hard from here on out, it should be able to reach 375M worldwide (thats a miserable 1.6x from its second weekend dom and an equally miserable 1.2x of its intl second weekend). With just a very slight overperformance from my perhaps overly conservative estimates, that means 400M is still very much in play, a number that really will go a long way towards saving face. This is not a bomb, its just a bit of a disappointment. 

       

      For those who watched the deadline interview, they might push GvK back a bit. The tone of Emmerich's voice, however, was far from that of someone who has given up hope in the Monsterverse. As I said before, that this film can "disappoint" with close to 400M worldwide shows there is still a lot of potential in the franchise. Besides, between 1) a shitty release date (competition) 2) shitty ER 3) many people turned off from the previous film and 4) critic reviews, KoTM had the cards stacked against it. I have faith in GvK, and as long as that one merely performs well (~575M - 600M WW) you can count on these films continuing

      Hmm... Good point.

       

      But anyway ICYMI , I just explained what @RamblinRedsaid to @Sunny Maxcause he didn't get it so that's not what I'm trying to say tho.

      ALADDIN | 695.1 M overseas ● 1050.7 M worldwide

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      15 minutes ago, Geo1500 said:

       

      If you add the weekend for NA + From Wednesday + weekend for OS + Japan it could cross 700M by Monday. Most of these countries have increased alot and others haven't even been updated at all from last week

      I still can’t see it tho.

       

      And the bold one : All countries figures have been updated until Wednesday. Maybe if you see BOM foreign charts ( for example ) , most figures only updated until June 2nd but the total WW numbers that Disney gave already covered all the countries figures up until Wednesday. So it doesn’t matter at all cause all the numbers have been added. It’s just the Mojo individual country charts that’s late to update.

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      ALADDIN | 695.1 M overseas ● 1050.7 M worldwide

      in International Box Office

      Posted · Edited by Claudio

      1 hour ago, Geo1500 said:

      Aladdin may have crossed already 700M WW in total real time. Most of the foreign total haven't been updated for like over a week for some countries. By the end of the week the numbers will be updated

      It’s impossible for it to have crossed $700M already. I would guess maybe closer to $600M by the weekend over. Need to wait tomorrow’s weekend number to confirm. Also ,  the WW numbers that we all have now ( stands at $508M ) was updated until Wednesday except North America of course in which BOM updates it every day. That means we still have all the overseas country’s numbers from Thursday-Sunday and NA Saturday-Sunday to be added but still I even can’t see it crossed $700M by the weekend , let alone by now.

       

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      TOY STORY IV | 639.4 M overseas ● 1073.4 M worldwide

      in International Box Office

      Posted

      6 minutes ago, MrFanaticGuy34 said:

      I wouldn’t be surprised if TS4 does more both DOM & OS, considering the insanely strong presales & a potentially stellar WOM from critics & audiences.

       

      It might beat Frozen’s WW-gross if everything goes right. The same way the third one beat Shrek 2’s WW-gross back in 2010. If that happens....history repeats itself when it comes to Toy Story.

      Yeah. Only for Frozen 2 to take it back right away.:Gaga:

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