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Yep. Voting rights, Roe v Wade, civil rights and gay marriage are next on the chopping block. Fuck this country.
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I think $140m opening is a good low end benchmark for Avatar 2 opening weekend. Thinking around 150m-165m for the OW with a very strong multiple to get it to say 600m-750mish. Depends on marketing if 200m+ opening and more is attainable.
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One thing that will help Avatar 2, is that no blockbuster has had the sheer of visual scale or beauty that the original Avatar did or has had the even half as good cgi or visual effects.
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I think the trio of Shazam 2, Avatar 2 and Puss in Boots 2 should be all pretty lucrative this holiday season. Avatar 2 will obviously be the kingpin at 550m-800m+ domestic, Shazam 2 should target the 150m-220m area and Puss in Boots should be around 100m-140m, with an outside chance at 160m like Sing 2.
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I completely disagree that Avatar had little to no cultural impact. The shift towards IMAX, PLFs and 3D are because of Avatar’s success.
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Not really even if quality improves, the past two movies have gotten middling reception. Dumbledore needed to be well received by not just the fans for any prospects of a fourth to do well which it failed at. A hypothetical fourth like Dumbledore would fail to do 100m domestic and maybe decrease further OS.
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Odd to see EEAAO success being trivialized considered it likely will be A24’s biggest film domestically (WW idk, likely not barring a UK breakout) but perhaps the biggest indie film in the past ten years. Budget regardless, it’s run is pretty damn impressive.
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To add onto the post, my twelve year old has asked me for the past two days when is The Bad Guys coming on streaming as we say it a week ago. I told him it’ll be about 45 days until Peacock release and the dude was impatient when I told him it likely won’t be on there until the first week of June, proclaiming that essentially theatrical windows need to be shorter.
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The Marvels | November 10, 2023 | Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter
YM! replied to The Wild Eric's topic in Box Office Discussion
No one is saying that there must be a gap period between each tentpole but what we are saying is (which may be a shock to you) that a lot of overlap between movies with similar demographics tend to (which we’ve seen in a packed summer back in 2019 and 2017 where there was a large movie pileup that) cause a lot of underperformers which could’ve been avoided by a more even spread as the average consumer sees around 8-10 movies a year (though in hindsight, quality and fatigue played a factor). No one is saying they want a weak summer but like if a few films (no more than like 4 tops) moved a bit later in the summer or a few months earlier/later (no one is saying they’ll not come 2023), it create a more even distribution, creating room for more hits thus bigger box office for all the movies. -
The Marvels | November 10, 2023 | Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter
YM! replied to The Wild Eric's topic in Box Office Discussion
I’d argue it and Across have the worst spots of the summer, both could move to the fall or maybe a readjustment. I don’t think Fast X will make 5/19 but I got a hypothetical for the schedule. If the studios had the brain cells to realize that overstuffing the summer would kill a portion of film, tap into the fall market as people will see movies that look good at any month. 5/5 - Guardians 3 5/12 - Ninja Turtles (animated with low budget due to Mikros, still could do a run similar to Captain Underpants to The Bad Guys. 6/2 is a choice too). 5/19 - Death Reckoning 5/26 - The Little Mermaid 6/2 - 2 Meg 2 Sharks/Ninja Turtles (if it moves here and Transformers moves later) 6/9 - Transformers or The Flash in the scenario where Transformers move/Strays 6/16 - Pixar 6/23 - The Flash (if in the Flash/Transformers hypothetical, Oppenheimer could move here, more imax to) 6/30 - Migration 7/7 - The Marvels 7/14 - Oppenheimer (Strays could also go here to fit the Universal whole) 7/21 - Barbie 7/28 - Indiana Jones (again doubt it makes 2023 but what if) 8/11 - Blue Beetle 8/18 - Transformers could also go here Labor Day Weekend - Spider-Verse (summer days ain’t worth it if the absolute ceiling for gross is Detective Pikachu numbers domestically) In this situation, only Fast X and Madame Web, and maybe Transformers left the summer.