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  1. 9 minutes ago, cannastop said:

    sure there's a reason to release a shitty movie in theaters. It makes more money than streaming does.

     

    Yup look at Mean Girls. Not exactly shitty but bland. Has nothing to say. Cast won't be iconic. But even with shitty holds it made more money than it would on streaming where it would probably have Kissing Booth/After series viewership. 

  2. Mean Girls can thank its lucky stars that it was direct-to-streaming originally so it looks like success now. But if it was theatrical from the start it would have been a disappointment considering lame af holds. 

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  3. 3 hours ago, Merkel said:

    Please don't post spoilers in this thread.  Create a spoiler thread if need be. 

     

    While the page is loading,  even the spoiler text boxes briefly appear as normal text, so please, simply do not discuss spoilers in here.

     

    It's not cool

     

    On the phone? The tags are properly placed so it isn't the fault of anyone who posted spoilers in tags. They did it correctly and there's no rule against tagged spoilers in non-spoiler thread that I know of. 

  4. 8 minutes ago, Carlangonz said:

    Somehow US media reported it as merely a fan-event but it was actually a full screening for both media last weekend and an audience on the premiere. Media is embargoed but audiences are raves even if a bit skewed.

     

    EC called it a masterpiece for what is worth and he saw it before these fans. Nolan called it ESB and he saw it before these fans too. 

  5. 13 hours ago, WittyUsername said:

    Isn’t she 2-4 years old in the first book? A literal toddler who talks and behaves like a grown adult would definitely approach uncanny valley territory, so they might as well embrace the weirdness of it. 

     

    she is 2. I mean it is weird but the character isn't weird and creepy physically. she's a cute well meaning kid who freaks everyone out for being mentally mature.

  6. 56 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

    I’ve been saying that the only real way to handle Alia would be to make her CGI. The character is supposed to be creepy and off-putting anyway, so it should work. 

     

    She's only creepy because she's an adult mind in a child's body but otherwise she was very sad that everyone was scared of her. Most tragic character in Atreides saga later on (Children of Dune). 😢

  7. 9 minutes ago, Kon said:

    To be fair, TLM animation has a lower box office, because it was the first Renaissance movie. Disney wasn't in a good moment at that point, but TLM put Disney in a better light.

     

    In fact, the good reputation of TLM likely helped the future movies to make more on the box office.

     

    Ah OK didn't know that. still, TLM has always been too girly. Not that too girly cannot be an insane hit (Barbie) but being interesting to a secondary audience helps. BatB had a monster and some action to keep boys entertianed between shipper scenes. Aladdin obivously was a boys story with romance for girls. 

  8. 2 minutes ago, Kon said:

     

    Honestly, the main reason why The Little Mermaid live action is a dissapoinment for Disney is because they clearly expected a lot more from this movie.

     

    They invested more money on TLM movie than the Beauty and the Beast or Aladdin, but this has the lower box office.

     

    They added more to the budget when they saw AWOW. still, underwater effect was a diaster so where did 300M+ (before tax break) go? Also, they expected more from the movie even though the cartoon made less money than other revival cartoons. Just bad management all around.

  9. I just don't like when movies like TLM are passed as hits equal to real hits because they are not. breaking even is not Barbie or Oppenheimer success. It's not a hit. I don't care how many dolls TLM sold (my sister has one) it isn't a theatrical hit let alone an undisputed one unlike Barbenheimer that doesn't need Miss Flo toys to appear like success. There's an extreme push to spin this one as success so thank goodness real successes like Barbenheimer and Spiderverse happened to show what it looks like. I get that Disney had a terrible year and TLM and Elemental are the closest to a hit they had after GOTG 3 which was a real hit no Groot Toys Save Us. But they were not hits. 

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  10. 1 hour ago, PlatnumRoyce said:

    Not to religitate this, but that's obviously not true. Deadline estimated TLM would break even by using assumptions not shared with other analyses they run on the topic of film profits. Their numbers simply don't make conceptual sense. If TLM broke even, it's on the back of the Disney-specific flywheel(?) based around parks and their ability to leverage the Disney princess brand over the longer term. 

    e.g. The Rock's leak/argument to deadline estimated that film's Home Entertainment + Domestic streaming revenue equaled 106M. We know Black Adam was a big performer on home video (9th highest grossing physical media film in the US while TLM didn't even place in the listed top 50 film + TV). TLM overindexed in the US but it wasn't a big home video seller. The DEG TOP 20 ordinal rankings shows 1 week at #1 before being dwarfed by GotG. It probably had a credible home video showing but unless they're assuming a long tail due to the Disney princess brand, I don't see the case for the estimated numbers. Black Adam overindexes on physical media but I don't see any evidence TLM was a home video power. It didn't generate the revenue deadline claimed. 

    https://www.mediaplaynews.com/research/2023-top-selling-titles-on-disc/?hilite=top+disc+2023

    https://deadline.com/2023/05/little-mermaid-box-office-profit-loss-halle-bailey-1235383099/

    https://deadline.com/2022/12/dwayne-johnson-black-adam-box-office-profit-1235191135/

     

    Also, those who overemphasize dom gross forget that studios get the largest % only in the first 10 days of dom release not for the whole run. That's why everything is geared towards OW. We like legs but studios would trade legs for 300M OW in a heartbeat cause they get the biggest % then and not 13 or 30 days later. Even if TLM broke even (big if)  it wasn't profitable from the theatrical run due to ridiculous budget (that wasn't on the screen). 

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