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7 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:
Challengers MTC1
Early Shows(4/22) final - 18092/62617 373746.58 263 shows +3377
Previews(T-3) - 14715/272266 288951.39 1540 shows +3000
Friday - 14722/428870 278017.78 2375 shows +3665
Good for sure. Early Shows will skew MTC1 big time(looking at MTC2, gross wont be that much). I am thinking 550-600K for early shows. Previews should accelerate tomorrow if WOM from early shows is good. Thinking 2.5m+ previews including early shows and 20m ish OW.
$5 tickets are live...but remember, they tend to help Friday and Saturday more than Thursday, b/c if it's $5 anytime, why not go on a weekend night:)...
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Yeah, maybe I've outgrown it or gotten sick of the multiversal stuff...but I'm not feelin' it. It's not funny and the plot seems like another Loki-series-adjacent plot. I am glad others are liking it.
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3 hours ago, Spidey Freak said:
Garfield would have been insanely huge if it had come out this month instead of on Memorial weekend. It will still be big but in April it may have delivered a GxK level surprise
Nope, it needs all the swim team and summer camp trips before Inside Out 2...April would have been a terrible month for it.
KFP2 and Ghostbusters will do the mop up that's available in April. Memorial Day is the big "schools out" for many areas, so that's as early as you want to set your summer animated.
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54 minutes ago, Mad Max007 said:
How did they miss Valentine's Day release date for a movie like this one?
They are going for 2nd weekend Mother's Day hold instead...
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6 hours ago, Flopped said:
No Saturday numbers?
It would probably just be low, lower, and lowest...which would just bum folks out...
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1 hour ago, Flopped said:
Good Lord, Omen will finish under 25M? I didn't realize it was still in the teens.
It's gonna try to squeak to $20M.
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Okay, Deadline has a number - $3.7M (with previews) for Warfare...here's more Deadline...
"A24’s Civil War is winning the box office skirmish against three wide entries with a second weekend of $11M+ after a $3.25M Friday..., Abigail, starring Melissa Barrera will at least hit $10M after a $4M Friday...Lionsgate’s A- CinemaScore, Guy Ritchie directed, mouthful of a title, The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare is coming in at singles digits with an estimated $8.7M after a $3.7M Friday — in fourth. The Henry Cavill movie is getting whipped by weekend 4 of Legendary/Warner Bros’ Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire which is looking to come in at $9.2M...The Sony Crunchyroll Toho movie, Spy x Family Code: White made $2.2M yesterday for what’s looking like a $4.8M weekend at 2,009. Clearly not everything Crunchyroll does is Dragon Ball Z in fifth."
And the rest...
6.) Kung Fu Panda 4 (Uni) 2,955 (-149) theaters, Fri $1.1M (-19%), 3-day $4.5M (-19%), Total $179.9M/Wk 7
7.) Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire (Sony) 3,109 (-241) theaters, Fri $1M (-26%) 3-day $4M (-30%), Total $102.5M/Wk 5
8.) Dune: Part Two (Leg/WB) 2,014 (-387) theaters, Fri $800K (-33%) 3-day $2.8M (-35%), Total $276.4M/Wk 8
9.) Monkey Man (Uni) 2,641 (-396) theaters, Fri $680K (-46%) 3-day $2.2M (-46%), Total $21.6M/Wk 3
10.) The First Omen (20th) 2,430 (-945) theaters, Fri $530K (-54%) 3-day $1.7M (-55%) Total $17.7M/Wk 3
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26 minutes ago, Eric Atreides said:
← Previous Chart Chart Index Movie Title Distributor Gross %YD %LW Theaters Per
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GrossDays In
Release1 N Abigail Universal $4,000,000 3,384 $1,182 $4,000,000 1 - (1) Civil War A24 $3,254,490 +99% -70% 3,929 $828 $37,011,151 8 - (2) Godzilla x Kong: The New … Warner Bros. $2,330,000 +165% -40% 3,658 $637 $164,491,510 22 - N Spy x Family Code: White Crunchyroll $2,225,000 2,009 $1,108 $2,225,000 1 - (3) Kung Fu Panda 4 Universal $1,110,000 +162% -19% 2,955 $376 $176,492,475 43 - (4) Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire Sony Pictures $1,035,000 +180% -27% 3,109 $333 $99,549,270 29 - (5) Dune: Part Two Warner Bros. $800,000 +120% -33% 2,014 $397 $274,492,913 50 - (6) Monkey Man Universal $680,000 +90% -46% 2,641 $257 $20,154,790 15 - (7) The First Omen 20th Century… $530,000 +85% -54% 2,430 $218 $16,595,038 15 - (-) Shrek 2 Universal $130,000 +12% -73% 819 $159 $438,830,656 7,276 - (-) Housekeeping for Beginners Focus Features $13,000 +262% -43% 251 $52 $174,600 15 11 $16,107,490 What is Lionsgate waiting for? No number at almost 12pm for Warfare...
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And while this is OT, I wanted to expand on families being picky.
For years, my local bowling alley had a summer pass that gave you 2 games of bowling + shoes before 6pm (and 4pm weekends) every day of the summer for a set fee. And we took advantage every summer.
Last year, they eliminated it...and we didn't bowl once. Sucked, but the pool was open and we were seeing cheap summer movies, so the kids' adapted.
This year, the bowling alley brought the pass back, at a cheaper rate and for all hours of the day (except on Saturday, but Friday and Sunday nights are now available). And at a reduced rate from 2 years ago.
Yeah, the experiment to get folks to pay full price for superfluous entertainment in a tough inflationary environment obviously did not work. Theaters need to grasp that, too.
PS - Yes, I have passes...and yes, this will probably cut into our movie watching, just like the cheap Black Friday trampoline park passes have this year.
Last year, I think we saw 18 movies in theater (with summer movies and others). This year, we've watched 2 so far (and 1 was a 2023 movie). And we still do have the same Cinemark pass - it's just unused. I may or may not get to Platinum for this year.
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June 10-13: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem
June 17-20: Sonic the Hedgehog 2
June 24-27: Shrek
July 1-4: PAW Patrol: The Mighty Movie
July 8-11: The Lego Movie
July 15-18: Trolls Band Together
July 22-25: How to Train Your Dragon
July 29-Aug 1: Migration
August 5-8: Hotel Transylvania
August 12-15: Paddington 2For those with kids, this is the Cinemark summer movie clubhouse this year. Tickets have increased from $1.50 to $1.75/person, but still a nice time at the movies for an early Wednesday morning (some theaters, to boost their mornings, will actually show the films on Mon/Wed/Thurs, but YMMV - and weren't we already talking about the deadness of theaters weekdays)...
For the record, I'm trying to talk my kids into Trolls 3 (unseen) and Shrek (they've never seen it, and $1.75 is the right price)...the boys have already said they want TMNT (a repeat) and Paw Patrol 2 (unseen).
PS - And notice, Disney still provides no support. It's really one of the big reasons my kids (and I) have gravitated away from Disney - they could chuck one of their old less popular animated films to one of these programs, but nope, never. They never, ever have been a part in any of these cheap family summer programs.
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9 hours ago, AniNate said:
Cinemark has actually been profitable the past year, so they at least have figured out how to weather the storm I think. They've been closing theaters like everyone, yes, but they are a model for how the exhibition industry can survive.
I think it is probably true that with streaming we'll never get back to the admission highs of the early 2000s, and it does obviously have a much more desirable appeal to large families that I really can't blame them for. But it is also pretty clear at this point that streaming is not gonna completely kill off theaters; there is still a market for large screen communal viewing even if it might not be as big as it was before.
Cinemark does a lot of things right.
- It books a LOT of small-but-strong interest cinema - a ton of foreign films, a ton of religious films, etc - so, when Hollywood is in a lull, they are not just stuck with Hollywood.
- It books a LOT of non-films - opera, MMA fights, theatre, concerts, e-gaming, etc
- Its membership, which I have and which I don't love, still has no ability to bankrupt them b/c it's one movie slightly discounted a month with discounted concessions.
- They have kept reservable theaters for weekend birthday parties.
- They have kept a kids summer movie program to keep families coming in year in and year out, even if they never pay for full price movies - just keeping the kid habit alive is crucial.
- They have kept a cheap Tuesday and a cheap senior citizen Monday, so they never have fully empty weekdays.
- They have cut weekday morning hours - making movies now a lunch or later activity - saving wages, but not at the expense of movie availability or fixed costs.
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48 minutes ago, AniNate said:
Lol, I just an e-mail from my local Regal that they're cutting standard format ticket prices to $7 for everything at everytime
Pretty much a last gasp to keep that theater afloat
I would totally take advantage of that Friday and Saturday nights...
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1 hour ago, kayumanggi said:
So, ultimately not terrible, even as it became clear in the last 2 weeks that this is a dump by the studio...if it wasn't a dump (or if it was a $5 ticket), I suspect it would have done better, but c'est la vie. We'll see if $5 helps Challengers break the teens level next week...
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Last minute add...
Challengers will be a $5 TMobile/Atom deal next week (starting Tuesday) - plan accordingly.
Not the norm for their choices, but then again, it seems this movie is so "young adult/18-25" it may get a nice effect...
2024 TMobile Movies
Bob Marley
Ghostbusters
Challengers
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3 hours ago, TheDarkKnightOfSteel said:
The fall guy being a let down does not sit well with me because it’s an original. That being said, it seems like films that on paper should perform strong … do not. Even popular IP films are disappointing.The idea of a movie star being a bo draw is long dead to me. And then look at Civil War.
Maybe now HW will learn to embrace more original ideas and fresh faces in front and behind the cameras. The audiences for one seem to be interested.
I know someone told you it's not original, but didn't tell you why.
The Fall Guy was actually a 1980's tv show about stunt performers that lasted 5 seasons.
From Wiki - "The Fall Guy is an American action-adventure television series produced for ABC and originally broadcast from November 4, 1981, to May 2, 1986. It stars Lee Majors, Douglas Barr, and Heather Thomas as Hollywood stunt performers who moonlight as bounty hunters."
The movie is apparently only loosely based on the show, but it is still loosely based on the show.
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53 minutes ago, Morieris said:
I'd be surprised if the demo for 'There's a Civil War in America in the modern day' wasn't mostly male and white.
Yeah, except this one isn't a classic war film. Apparently, it's a war journalism film, which isn't exactly gonna appeal to that demo.
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Never posted, but kinda shocked by Civil War's high male demo...
https://deadline.com/2024/04/box-office-civil-war-1235882968/
"Mostly male skewing here for Civil War at 73% with 57% of the audience being the prime 18-34moviegiong demo. Largest demo was 25-34 at 36%. Diversity range was 50% Caucasian, a very strong 24% Latino and Hispanic, 12% Black, 8% Asian and 6% other. Best regions for Civil War are South (A24 did have great test scores in Dallas), South Central and the West."
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16 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:
In a twist worthy of M. Night Shyamalan, after all these years of begging for an original hit, and all these months defending Civil War sight unseen.....I absolutely fucking hated it.
F-. Glad it is making money and sure hope more original movies with this scope and marketing get made, though!! Maybe they won't be craven, weightless pieces of shit like this was.
Dang, I have given the F- grade, but yeah, it's normally b/c I really, really hate it. It doesn't even have to be the worst made movie, it can just put me in the most pissed off mood about what they made (or didn't make)...
PS - This is the kinda WOM where I say "yep, legs will be awful" b/c "it's good" doesn't go nearly as far as "I was pissed off after seeing this"...no one wants to pay to be pissed off...
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1 minute ago, Porthos said:
We still had one locally as late as 2020. Doing decently too, as a second run theater. The 'rona killed it and it never came back.
I expect a lot of second run theaters died during the theater lockdown. Might be interesting to know just how many, if any, are still around.
COVID might have hastened the inevitable collapse due to streaming, but I get the sense that second run theaters still had a tiny niche as a "good place for teenagers/collage student to go and hang out and have a good time". Not nearly enough of them to make a thriving business model with multiple locations in a given market, but maybe enough to keep the lights on.
A similar niche that drive-ins occupy, come to think of it, though drive-ins still usually show first-run content.
'Covid killed my 2nd run with the owner switching it to a 1st run...
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13 minutes ago, AniNate said:
I feel like most people who pony up for PVOD weren't gonna otherwise be spending that money seeing the movie in theaters. My impression is the appeal is mostly for large families where going out to a theater is prohibitively expensive both financially and logistically and just a one click payment to watch a movie on your home theater and start it, pause it, mute it and turn it off whenever you want is a pretty damn good bargain by comparison, honestly even compared to rounding everyone up to drive to a dollar theater it probably has more appeal.
I think the biggest appeal is for elderly members with family visiting. When you're on a weekly caretaker visit and want something new to do with them for conversation and just happy fun.
Like my spouse's parents no longer really go anywhere (one is completely shut in and the other is a full time caretaker). I know if there was a movie they wanted, they'd buy it on PVOD now. And when we visit and my kids want to watch something they didn't have on streaming, they'd buy it to have something to do together.
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2 minutes ago, AniNate said:
I'm just relieved we're finally past the "reading into critical reviews to confirm your biases" and manufactured controversies phase and people are deciding now how much they like the movie themselves
RT actually has identical 82% scores (critics and audience) right now. One is usually a good sign; one is usually a bad sign. Flip your coin.
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25 minutes ago, AniNate said:
Surprisingly high PLF demand for Civil War compared to normie screenings around here. I guess the marketing was really effective at pushing it as something like a blockbuster. Crocker Park 7pm IMAX showing nearly sold out.
If that's an AMC, all their subscribers just watch Imax (or whatever PLF something is on) every week b/c it's free for them, so why not. It would tend to confirm a low GA turnout and a high subscriber one...
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43 minutes ago, Ziddletwix said:
Deadline/the-numbers reporting 2.9M for Civil War Thursday. Is that gap (from the 3.5M expected) surprising, or am I missing something?
Could be the movie was VERY over indexed at MTC1, maybe due to limited geography appeal, maybe due to very limited GA, etc...
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10 hours ago, narniadis said:
This is where I want to quote my post from the weekend about the drops being returned to normal.
Then they turned a tad higher than normal 🤣🤣
@TwoMisfitsguess we both were wrong this time.
I guess eclipses are just wildly more popular for day off viewing:)...
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The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread
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To go along with that, while final sets are not up for my Cinemarks, it is telling that Fall Guy is NOT getting all PLF at my PLF theater. Instead, the Star Wars re-release is getting 1 full XD (and 2 screens for presales), which is the same as Fall Guy. At my other local, Star Wars is not yet booked, and Fall Guy is still sitting at 1 screen for presales.