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I saw the movie last night in a theater that was a bit more than half full (200 seats, 120 taken). It was good, I actually liked the 1st act more than the latter 2. I liked how they did the probing of her memories segment, it was a fairly creative way to handle that kind of thing. I also liked how she beat Jude Law at the end, again, its a nominally decent and fairly creative way to handle the final fight. To me it was good and solid enough, like an overall 70% quality movie. Not quite as good as BP, but in line with something like Dr Strange. I was surprised the movie went into full on MiB territory. Goofy alien cats with tentacle mouths that kill like 6 alien baddies at once... where was Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones? It was a scene taken right from those movies. To my memory none of the MCU movies have gone that far into alien goofiness. GOTG certainly didn't and played it (actually) a bit more straight. Don't get me wrong, I'm not upset/offended by this at all. It's just interesting that they would reach into the MiB playbook and pull out that sort of over-the-top comedy tone. Like Dr Strange I see this as a repeat-viewing-once type movie. And I think on balance I liked how Brie Larson was attempting to play the character almost as if any male lead would play the character, almost in a gender neutral type of way. We're well past the time when Supergirl needs to fly around aimlessly and chase horses cause that's what girls do.

Yeah I wouldn't expect any female lead superhero movie to hit Wonder Woman female audience ratios. CM is a relative unknown character, yet there's a whole generation of young girls who grew up with Wonder Woman Underoos, lunch boxes and the old Linda Carter TV show. Any Wonder Woman movie was going to be primed to have a big female turnout as long as they made sure it wasn't absolute garbage.

Yeah I got that.

I actually agree on a good chance to breakout. Shazam may do better than Ant-Man for any number of reasons, including audiences needing a palette cleanser between more somber (appearing) movies like Cap Marvel and Endgame. The timing may be just right for it. Also, Aquaman may have generated some good will from audiences towards new DC movies (a righting of the ship if you will) and I'd argue that Shazam is slightly more recognizable of an idea/character/concept than Ant-Man. Plus.... uh... Big was a breakout hit 30 years ago.

So we really seem to be headed towards a 400-450m WW opening 4 day for CM? If it's around 100m in China, 150m US, and at least another 150m everywhere else. This seems to be a really strong start. But is the expectation that this is still very frontloaded? Seems that the movie would end up with a WW total right around Aquaman (1.14bn) or Civil War. I honestly thought this movie was heading towards something around Thor 3 numbers, but it looks like this is going to blow way past that.

If it makes you feel better the actual average score among all critics is about 69%. This gets averaged up to 82-83% since RT generates the top number only looking at whether a review was overall positive or negative. Check the details on all critic reviews, you’ll see this is what they do. It’s not just CM obviously, you can go back for years and see many movies get their top line scores bolstered by 10-20%. I’m not saying anything one way or the other or making any sort of value judgment, it’s how RT works. Since you wondered.

So we’re in the realm of Aquaman performance then.

Could count WW gross no? It’s headed to 250m WW for the 4 day I thought.

I saw grown men freak out and weep. But I could tell what they were up to when it happened and I enjoyed it. They can write anyone back into it at any time they want. In the meantime, the emotional trauma is fun.

Yes indeed. Marvel is even in her name so that might help? It's a Marvel movie, set in the Marvel cinematic universe, starring Mr or Mrs Marvel. I guess that's a character now? And its made by Disney, so bring the fam.

I just saw this movie, it truly is a giant mess. 3 people in the screening on opening night besides myself.

It's still making more than AM1.

I was just thinking the same thing. This means of course that AM3 is on track to making that sweet Thor 3 money.

Bottom line is, its going to make more money than the first one and be profitable. Its going to be pretty healthy OS if nothing else.

I dont see what the issue is, ant man 2 is making more than the first one, and that wasn't a bomb. It's merely a small profit for the MCU instead of a big one. And unlike Solo this movie will be profitable. Did anybody really expect this movie to set the world on fire? As long as it makes more than the first one, it's a win. All that said I was a bit shocked to see how empty my theater was on Sat @ 7pm showing this movie. Tons of empty seats... so eh?

I've heard it's 2 disconnected movies shoved together with nothing but recycled themes and scenes from the previous films and done in a way that maximizes nonsensicalness. This movie was perfect for international audiences, they were smart to let the foreign markets lead on this one.

I really miss the days of the solid 90-ish min long movie, one that simply had a story to tell effectively. Everything has to be epic now with 3 endings and 2 plot twists. It's all LOTR:ROTK's fault. 😉

Yes but can AM2 beat Justice League OW? Just kidding. It's nice to see another (expected) success for marvel. Each sequel consistently moves up and they are doing better than many predict with each next film. AM2 should do about 750m WW no? Given how well its performing in the OW compared to the previous AM, and compared to the growth of other characters they built up like Guardians and Thor. I mean AM2 should be right in line with what they did before, some solid growth of about 50% over the receipts of the previous installment. It's ridiculous to expect any near future MCU film doing badly, I think the only way that would happen is if they made an honest-to-god bad movie AND marketed it badly at the same time and there's no reason to believe that's going to happen. Cap Marvel is going to beat expectations by a mile, largely because it dovetails off the IW train directly. People need to see how all their heroes get saved, and Cap Marvel is going to be the first movie to have direct information on that. This will effectively make it must-see for the IW audience, which is both large and the result of the growth of this fanbase, and representative of the overall moviegoing interest. So take your Cap Marvel estimates and double them.

No, both are event movies. They're just events in different ways, different metrics. I wouldn't call BP "just another solo MCU film". It's significant in several ways. Obviously Marvel did something really unusual though. Having 2 event films in the same year, back to back is basically never done. That would have generally been very unexpected before the numbers came in, and yet here we are. I told people ahead of time that IW was going to be an event film, they didn't believe me. And I was hopeful for BP, that all the factors and marketing would push it there provided the movie could also hit the necessary quality marks. It all came together for Marvel in just a few short months. It's still pretty incredible no matter how you cut it.

He is Man. He is present.

Solo is screwed for money. Many have said here and I think its right, 400m WW is the approx cap. It's a Star Wars Story that's going to make considerably less WW than Ant-Man ($519m WW). My mind is still blown on that. And I know almost nobody here would have seriously predicted that was going to happen. I certainly didn't and I was pretty negative on this movie before release. I figured it had about the same potential as Thor 3 or Guardians 2, right around in the 800m ballpark and 200m less than RO. Not this low, this is crazy.

IW has overperformed everywhere the whole way. You gotta believe!

You really think Solo is going to hit 500 WW when its barely at 312 right now? I feel like it will be lucky to hit 415 at this rate.

If it doesn't top TFA it comes in right behind it. 2.05b for sure