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    South Korea Box Office

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    Yea, guys, it’s Xmas in Korea. No big competition. SK continues to have one of the more covid affected markets among all os territories. For now I think we will go past 8, that will be a great result for 2021! If the demand is there it could leg to 10 still, we will simply have to wait and see.

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    Spider-Man: No Way Home | December 17, 2021 | The More Fun Stuff Version (yes, that's what it's called) comes to theaters September 2nd!

    in Box Office Discussion

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    5 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

    Yeah, like other big event Marvel movies did before this (Infinity War did and Endgame did too). This started off at 2nd place earlier in the day. Already down to 8th.

    I don’t recall the trajectory of IW or Endgame, but you’re quite off on NWH. It has been climbing steadily all day. I do expect it will peak soon and then settle modestly above the current highest McU.

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    South Korea Box Office

    in International Box Office

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    5 minutes ago, LPLC said:

    Again less than expected, 3 millions admissions OW still possible ?

    I mean, a few % here or there is nothing much. I did est 450 from pure PS.   
     

    Very difficult to forecast SatSun given change in circumstances. Right now I suppose I expect~200-210 sat cgv ps, 720-750 Sat, 700 sun, 2.9ish. But pretty volatile situation.   
     

    I am still optimistic about days 6-12, but they will be what tells the tale.

     

    No Way Home Weekend Thread | #RIP AIW Record | 260M OW DOM | 340M OS | 600M OW WW W/O CHINA

    in Numbers and Data

    Posted · Edited by Product Driven Legion

    On 12/15/2021 at 11:37 PM, Product Driven Legion said:

    Don’t take these too seriously, plenty of rough estimation, different franchises, different months, different Th start times, different pandemic conditions, etc. But still, was playing around with numbers and I figured some people might like this as a reference. 
     

    Movie Final PS (fri morning) Previews True PS True FSS True FSS/True PS True FSS-True PS wknd
    AEG 190,000,000 60,000,000 130,000,000 297,115,007 2.286 167,115,007 357,115,007
    TFA 140,000,000 54,000,000 86,000,000 193,966,675 2.255 107,966,675 247,966,675
    TLJ 120,000,000 45,000,000 75,000,000 175,009,584 2.333 100,009,584 220,009,584
    TROS 115,000,000 40,000,000 75,000,000 137,383,864 1.832 62,383,864 177,383,864
    IW 105,000,000 39,000,000 66,000,000 218,698,183 3.314 152,698,183 257,698,183
    Geomean 130,975,482 46,921,990 83,872,899 197,833,069 2.359 111,442,434 245,433,419
    Trimmed geomean 124,547,699 45,978,566 78,500,723 195,079,384 2.291 118,137,671 227,697,791
    NWH rough proj 133000000 47000000 86000000 197046447.5 2.291 111,046,448 244046447.5
    NWH worst case 128000000 46000000 82000000 150206358 1.832 68,206,358 196206358
    NWH best case 140000000 52000000 88000000 220000000 2.500 132,000,000 272000000

    Lemme just drop this here while we wait for prev actuals:

    Movie Final PS (fri morning) Previews True PS True FSS True FSS/True PS True FSS-True PS wknd
    AEG 190,000,000 60,000,000 130,000,000 297,115,007 2.286 167,115,007 357,115,007
    TFA 140,000,000 54,000,000 86,000,000 193,966,675 2.255 107,966,675 247,966,675
    TLJ 120,000,000 45,000,000 75,000,000 175,009,584 2.333 100,009,584 220,009,584
    TROS 115,000,000 40,000,000 75,000,000 137,383,864 1.832 62,383,864 177,383,864
    IW 105,000,000 39,000,000 66,000,000 218,698,183 3.314 152,698,183 257,698,183
    Geomean 130,975,482 46,921,990 83,872,899 197,833,069 2.359 111,442,434 245,433,419
    Trimmed geomean 124,547,699 45,978,566 78,500,723 195,079,384 2.291 118,137,671 227,697,791
    NWH realistic 1.0 133000000 47000000 86000000 197046447.5 2.291 111,046,448 244046447.5
    NWH worst 1.0 129000000 46000000 83000000 155078905.7 1.868 72,078,906 201078905.7
    NWH best 1.0 140000000 52000000 88000000 220000000 2.500 132,000,000 272000000
    Realistic 2.0 141000000 51000000 90000000 206211398.6 2.291 116,211,399 257211398.6


    That’d be about 770 with bad legs, for anyone who might be thinking about the avatar club or the DOM contest (both of which are now closing Sun midnight) 👍

     

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    No Way Home Weekend Thread | #RIP AIW Record | 260M OW DOM | 340M OS | 600M OW WW W/O CHINA

    in Numbers and Data

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    6 minutes ago, EmpireCity said:

     

    For sure, and I feel the same way.  

     

    Sometimes I don't think a lot of people realize just how insanely restrictive things are for theaters and what a complete stranglehold that studios and others have on them in relation to what they can do with these multi-million dollar complexes that they have sitting there.  

     

    In the United States, if you have let's say a 10 screen theater, here is what it takes to show content on screen and the hoops they have to jump through....

     

    - Theaters must play any new release film they have booked as a "clean" run in accordance to a very long and detailed exhibition agreement with the studio unless there is a specific permission where a film is allowed to be "split".  It must adhere to "fair play" rules.  

     

    - Any older film has to be pre-booked and has to be available to be licensed to play with express permission and in the format that the studio demands or approves.  Every single time, no exceptions.  The film usually can't be played until digital "keys" are sent to unlock it at the specific time it is booked for.  

     

    - If someone wants to have a birthday party and show their little 8 year old girl and her 10 friends Frozen, lol good luck unless you can find a theater willing to risk hooking up a blu-ray player to the projector and hoping Disney won't find out and then punish them via pulling a new release or fining them.  Even if you pick something you can actually play like E.T. or The Polar Express, then it's going to be a minimum of $250 straight to the studio to have that birthday party watch it.  

     

    - No tv shows, no sporting events, no anything can be shown on screen without the express written permission of the studio or producers.  

     

    - According to the exhibition agreements, the projector logs could be requested at any time to make sure that nothing was played without permission.  

     

    - If the theater wanted to put a movie on for their staff to have a fun night, it's technically illegal or breaking the rules unless permission is given.  

     

    - If the theater breaks anything from fair play rules or forgets to put on a late show of West Side Story or skips playing Encanto on the opening night of Spider-Man, they they are subject to having their keys pulled, the movie taken off sale and having the entire run of the film charged at 80% licensing instead of 60%.  

     

    - If a company wants to have their Christmas party and is doing a theater buyout and watching Spider-Man a week after it releases, the studio still wants to require theaters to ask for permission.  Nobody does, but they still have it in the rules.  

     

    So anyways, to end the rant, you will hear a lot of stories or read articles of how movie theaters are trying to expand their offerings by doing licensed UFC fights or WWE Summer Slam or live comedy shows or having E-Gaming or whatever.  All of that is a great thought, but it's never really going to make an impact enough to work in the long run due to it being hard to build an audience for it and the cost and manpower it takes to run those things.  

     

    Movie theaters need movies to survive.  Under the current rules, they not only need movies but they need theatrical exclusive movies to survive.  If anyone ever wonders why theater owners and NATO and others fight so hard to maintain theatrical exclusivity and why, then look no further.  

     

     

     

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    And we are back full circle to my original complaint about overly restrictive studio contracts :sadfleck:   
     

    I’m not sure how long this status quo can last, but I look forward to finding out.

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