nguyenkhoi282
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The funny thing is that all of the reviews I've read both positive and negative are just talking about the same things: ridiculous visuals and a simple story. I always think of "divisive" as in there's something that has to be very polarizing or offensive. But to call this movie divisive would be overblowing it imo. The low-score critics are just going through a phase. -
When was it divisive? I mean am I reading the same thread as everyone because ever since the first batch of reviews dropped I hasn't seen a single damn thing that changes the consensus in any significant way if not at all
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My showing in 26 hours (first IMAX showing in Vietnam). And it's like this for the rest of the weekend.
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I second this. No idea what the fuss is about 😂
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Lol this is exactly what we expected out of the initial reactions. I even read dozens of those reviews out and yes that's exactly those things, at least critic-wise. What the heck is everyone on about?
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You will have to wait until we have official reviews to expect any changes if at all. It's not the kind of movies that suddenly ramps up in the final stage.
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Lol when was I being upset. I was just amazed at the fact that we're going so high. And I love it yo.
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Still, I think I'm gonna go with 750M OW. Any finishes above $3B is a win (I want that threshold to be crossed).
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China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30
nguyenkhoi282 replied to A Marvel Fanboy's topic in China At The Box Office
China is an incredibly flexible market as long as you still have enough demand. It can kill some movies instantly with 1.5x and can also generate 5x or even 10x out of nowhere. So yes, it can leg out to 3.5x from 190M. -
Mostly 2-2.5 since we had had IW at the time but 3-4 talks were almost non existent. Here, now, we are considering 3 billie as a relatively realistic threshold which is nuts.
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I love how we're casually throwing 2 3 4 billies around like it's no big deal. Even Endgame with such massive presales didn't get this kind of predictions.
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I'm pretty sure that with a movie like TWOW, everyone who wants to see it will see it anyway, if not on OW then later in the run. At the end of the day, the final gross will be as much as it can make, OW notwithstanding.
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One more thing about Avatar is that although it's about an alien planet, the ecosystem presented feels very easy to connect to. The forests, the trees, the water, the animals and stuff. I think Cameron's love for the environment and the natural world is beautifully translated on screen. As kids, and maybe adults too, I think we all love stuff like NatGeo so that could be how people are so captivated by Pandora.
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I watched Avatar 1 in IMAX 3D the first time in September and it still has some of the most beautiful visuals I've ever seen in any movies. There's just something about its art direction that today's blockbusters can't hold a candle to, even when we talk about something like Dune which is impressive and mesmerizing on its own terms (Brutalist) but the lively & vivid color palette and the incredible use of lighting and glowing objects in Avatar are the kind of things that simply win the masses over. After all, cinema is, at its core, a visual art form. What TWOW will bring to the table, I can't even imagine.
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Also, I feel like with a visual feast like TWOW, the long runtime could even be an advantage. Like, who doesn't like to have more time to get lost in that beautiful world? They may even get shocked when it ends since they'll be returning to the dullness of our real world.
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A friend group of mine (I'm in Vietnam), those who rarely go the the cinema or even like the idea of paying money to see movies there, are super willing to go see TWOW when it opens. We were just watching random things on TV and since I'm the only movie nerd in the group, I decided to put on some TWOW trailers and to my surprise, they immediately said that they have been waiting to see this movie in theaters for so long. I've never seen them like that before, not with Marvel or even major horror movies (very popular genre here). This is going to be huge.
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XXR is predicting on the basis of the current market, being realistic and all. The industry landscape has changed drastically in the past decade. I personally think 5x is more than good enough. Anything beyond that, although technically possible, is just wishful thinking and "It's Cameron" is not a data point. I understand you but there's reason for others to have more conservative predictions.
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For the sake of beautifully rounded number: 200M OW - 1B DOM 2B OS (not complaining if 2.2B to be No.1 OS) Total: $3-3.2B
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Nice, I think 900M is very much in sight.
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Honestly, $500-600M is barely over flop territory for most blockbusters, even when we're talking about 5 years ago. GOTG is modestly popular stateside but rather weak overseas. GOTG2 made 863M out of 389M DOM and 470M OS; losing China + Russia and dropping in many OS markets (oh it will) already shave at least 150M off that total. I'm not saying that it cannot get to 500M domestic to make up for the OS loss but "easily" is definitely not the word to use. Captain Marvel was Endgame-powered the same way Black Panther was Infinity War-powered, without its quality and cultural impact. As we are seeing Wakanda Forever may struggle to 850-900M, The Marvels will have a hard time getting anywhere close to that.
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BP's first Sunday was the second largest Sunday ever at the time, behind only TFA I believed (60.1 vs 60.5).
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Ragnarok took a big hit in weekend 3 in the face of Justice League. WF won't face any big competition until Avatar in weekend 6. I think 3x is achievable, over under $550M total.
