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9 minutes ago, vafrow said:
Trying to measure walk ups today. It's challenging due to the staggered afternoon starts, but I grabbed some data in the afternoon and some now.
So far, a 77% increase from the start of the day. Not bad, but not a mass breakout.
One thing that I've been tracking, but not paying too much attention to, is that I find the lack of IMAX sales to be a little surprising. It's under 30% of sales, in a five theatre sample with two IMAX screens.
This isn't Dune or Avatar, but it's still a visual movie that has a strong critical reputation among film buffs. I would have thought it's grabbed more of it's audience from people to the largest screens.
It makes me wonder if it is grabbing a more general/family audience. And if so, maybe it has more potential to leg out a bit. Just a theory.
Have to wonder if the nice weather is having some effect. Where i am weve been having some summer weather of 20 plus most days, and a lot of people are out and about. We are getting into beginning of cottage opening season so have to wonder if thats having an effect. This indeed may be a leg it out more film if those reasons are part of things.
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Furiosa
Thurs May 23 Fri May 24 (t-15)
Vancouver and Calgary Canada
# theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Vancouver Thurs 4 17 35 3594 3629 0.0096 Fri 4 21 29 4715 4744 0.0061 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Calgary Thurs 4 18 34 3205 3239 0.0104 Fri 4 24 19 2235 2254 0.0084 -
Furiosa
Thurs May 23 Fri May 24 (t-15)
Vancouver and Calgary Canada
# theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Vancouver Thurs 4 17 35 3594 3629 0.0096 Fri 4 21 29 4715 4744 0.0061 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Calgary Thurs 4 18 34 3205 3239 0.0104 Fri 4 24 19 2235 2254 0.0084 - 2
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Thurs May 15 Fri May 16 (T-9)
Toronto and Montreal Canada
Toronto # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 4 7 6 1879 1885 0.0031 Fri 4 14 59 4068 4127 0.0142 Montreal # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 2 4 3 761 764 0.0039 Fri 2 7 9 1430 1439 0.0062 These are the Toronto and Montreal numbers....which honestly dont look much different for Toronto sadly.
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Thurs May 15 Fri May 16 (T-9)
Toronto and Montreal Canada
Toronto # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 4 7 6 1879 1885 0.0031 Fri 4 14 59 4068 4127 0.0142 Montreal # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 2 4 3 761 764 0.0039 Fri 2 7 9 1430 1439 0.0062 These are the Toronto and Montreal numbers....which honestly dont look much different for Toronto sadly.
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14 hours ago, Tinalera said:
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Thurs May 15 Fri May 16 (t-10)
Vancouver and Toronto Canada
# theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Vancouver Thurs 2 6 2 1250 1252 0.001597444 Fri 2 8 42 1998 2040 0.020588235 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Calgary Thurs 4 8 20 1458 1478 0.0135 Fri 4 22 12 2066 2078 0.0057 #show 935 Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Toronto Thurs 4 21 10 5796 5806 0.0017 Fri 4 15 12 5595 5607 0.0021 Apologies again just been a rather busy little while, havent been able to get on-hope I can correct that soon lol
That Toronto one might be an error accidently put on. Ill do Toronto and Montreal today thought
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Thurs May 15 Fri May 16 (t-10)
Vancouver and Toronto Canada
# theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Vancouver Thurs 2 6 2 1250 1252 0.001597444 Fri 2 8 42 1998 2040 0.020588235 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Calgary Thurs 4 8 20 1458 1478 0.0135 Fri 4 22 12 2066 2078 0.0057 EDIT
There were numbers on here for Toronto which werent correct-so I have edited them out, and I have put down Toronto and Montreal numbers below
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Thurs May 15 Fri May 16 (t-10)
Vancouver and Toronto Canada
# theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Vancouver Thurs 2 6 2 1250 1252 0.001597444 Fri 2 8 42 1998 2040 0.020588235 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Calgary Thurs 4 8 20 1458 1478 0.0135 Fri 4 22 12 2066 2078 0.0057 #show 935 Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Toronto Thurs 4 21 10 5796 5806 0.0017 Fri 4 15 12 5595 5607 0.0021 Apologies again just been a rather busy little while, havent been able to get on-hope I can correct that soon lol
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On 5/4/2024 at 8:23 AM, vafrow said:
IF, T-13 Thursday previews, western GTA (southern Ontario)
Total Sales: 3
New Sales: 3
Growth: NA
Theatres tracked: MTC4
Total theatres: 5
Showtimes: 14
Radius: 19 km
Tickets per showtime: 0.2
Ticket premium in effect: No
Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)
Early Evening: 3/7
Late Evening: 0/7
Sales by Format (sales/showtimes)
Regular: 1/6
Dolby: 2/4
VIP: 0/4
Comps
0.125x Wonka for $0.4M
0.056x KFP4 for $0.2M
100 km radius (40 theatres) track
Sales: 35
Comp:
0.753x Haunted Mansion for $2.3M
Numbers ate still really low, making the standard track fairly useless. I did do a larger 100km radius track, encompassing the broader southern Ontaro market (~8M population, MTC4 being about 70-80% of the market). Even against Haunted Mansion, which underindexed here, it's not doing well.
I'd be curious if it's doing just as bad in other regions in Canada. @DAJK, @Tinalera, if you guys have a chance, can you take a peak. Reynolds should be a draw out of BC I would hope.
Ill take a look-taking care of real life stuff so havent been on as much as Id like. See what I can find out.
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The Fall Guy
Vancouver and Calgary Canada (T-10)
Thurs May 2 and Fri May 3
# theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Vancouver Thurs 3 8 25 1979 2004 0.0124 Fri 3 16 99 3909 4008 0.0247 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Calgary Thurs 3 15 21 2674 2695 0.0077 Fri 3 22 12 2066 2078 0.0057 Doesnt seem to be much pre sale appetite right now up here. Possibly a WOM film after its opening.
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The Fall Guy
Vancouver and Calgary Canada (T-10)
Thurs May 2 and Fri May 3
# theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Vancouver Thurs 3 8 25 1979 2004 0.0124 Fri 3 16 99 3909 4008 0.0247 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Calgary Thurs 3 15 21 2674 2695 0.0077 Fri 3 22 12 2066 2078 0.0057 -
Just saw Deadpool Wolvie trailer......eh I GUESS Ill track it. Might be a surprise hit or somethin.....you never know.....
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The Fall Guy
Thurs May 2 Fri May 3 (no wed show) (T-18)
Toronto and Montreal Canada
Toronto # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 4 13 29 3159 3188 0.0090 Fri 4 24 70 6045 6115 0.0114 Montreal # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 2 4 6 1128 1134 0.0052 Fri 2 8 9 2265 2274 0.0039 - 4
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The Fall Guy
Thurs May 2 Fri May 3 (no wed show) (T-18)
Toronto and Montreal Canada
Toronto # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 4 13 29 3159 3188 0.0090 Fri 4 24 70 6045 6115 0.0114 Montreal # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 2 4 6 1128 1134 0.0052 Fri 2 8 9 2265 2274 0.0039 -
Fall Guy
Vancouver and Calgary Canada
Thurs Mar 2 Fri Mar 3 (also 1 7pm IMAX on Wed Mar 1) (T-19)
Calgary
1 show Wed Mar 1st
Imax 7pm 500 490 10
500 seats available 10 sold
# theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Vancouver Thurs 3 8 18 1986 2004 0.0089 Fri 3 16 27 3981 4008 0.0067 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Calgary Thurs 3 18 12 2991 3003 0.0039 Fri 3 22 8 2070 2078 0.0038 Just edited in that Calgary was the Imax show.
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Fall Guy
Vancouver and Calgary Canada
Thurs Mar 2 Fri Mar 3 (also 1 7pm IMAX on Wed Mar 1) (T-19)
1 show Wed Mar 1st
Imax 7pm 500 490 10
500 seats available 10 sold
# theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Vancouver Thurs 3 8 18 1986 2004 0.0089 Fri 3 16 27 3981 4008 0.0067 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Calgary Thurs 3 18 12 2991 3003 0.0039 Fri 3 22 8 2070 2078 0.0038 -
3 hours ago, vafrow said:
Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, T-28 Thursday previews and Wednesday EA shows, western GTA (southern Ontario)
Total Sales: 14
New Sales: 0
Growth: 0%
Theatres tracked: MTC4
Total theatres: 5
Showtimes: 16
Radius: 19 km
Tickets per showtime: 0.9
Ticket premium in effect: Yes
Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)
Late Afternoon: 1/3
Early Evening: 13/7
Late Evening: 0/6
Sales by Format (sales/showtimes)
Dolby: 1/7
IMAX: 8/6
VIP: 5/3
EA shows
Sales: 12
Theatres: 4
Showtimes: 4
New Sales: 0
Zero sales day.
What's interesting that's probably been in effect for a few weeks now, is that MTC4 has increased the premium for Dolby theatres. I'm pretty sure it was $3 not that long ago. It's now $5. There's been a baseline price increase not that long ago as well.
5 Dollar Premium??? Boy it shows how long IVE been actually out to a theatre lately!
Wow just....wow.
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1 hour ago, DAJK said:
Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare doesn't look like it's opening in Canada. Which frustrates me for a few reasons. 1) I really want to see it lol. 2) This has been a pattern with every one of Lionsgate's "smaller" releases since Moonfall. 3) Cineplex is now a "distributor" of Lionsgate films in Canada... so I have no clue as to why Canada would forego a release for these movies.
Does anyone in this thread (maybe @Shawn Robbins) have any info on this to be able to shed some light? I'm trying to figure out what's going on but haven't been able to find anything concrete.
I myself cant think of this. I mean this is weird-I didnt even know that not releasing movies in Canada part of North American Market was even a thing. I mean im just throwing this out in the dark here-but (pure absolute speculation here) maybe theres something to do with streaming rights in Canada (maybe its only got an agreement for streaming-if thats a possible thing). Thats the only thing I can think of why, part of some legal tie up with rights stuff.
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6 minutes ago, vafrow said:
The issues have resolved for me. They were isolated to Early Access shows or cases where there's a separate listing for a film based on the format (usually IMAX)
It's been a weird thing where Cineplex takes an inconsistent approach. Sometimes they create separate listings, sometimes they don't.
I can't imagine it's a helpful strategy. If I look up a film to see upcoming showtimes, and don't see IMAX screenings, I'll assume it's not in IMAX.
That might explain things. Guess I have to pay attention to whether what film type its previewing for.
Sadly its always been kind of had that weird bizzaro land where sometimes things just dont make sense when tracking in Canada. Trying to decide what I want to track right now-again the whole Wed "no showtimes available" thing really bugs me lol
EdIT: and yep there are like 8 theatres with the wed IMAX-1 show 7pm, again seen this before. So as you said its like okay Im tracking for wed but its 1 show 1 specific time 1 specific format which doesnt lend well to tracking.
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On 4/5/2024 at 7:11 AM, vafrow said:
To @DAJK @Tinaleraor any other Canadian trackers, is anyone else having issues with seat previews in Cineplex? It's happening for me mainly for early access shows for Fall Guy and POTA. But generally, things have been glitchy.
I thought it was just temporary issues that would resolve, but it's been going on for a few days now. I'm not sure if it's my end or not.
So did a quick check for Fall Guy for Vancouver and Toronto, and its showing Wed May 1 as "Available" for certain theatres, when I click Im getting the "no show times available". Similar to what ive gotten in the past-sometimes its like theyll wait closer to the date before showing Wed show times with films. Its why I try to avoid films that have a Wed preview time because its harder to keep consistent show times compared to Thurs and Fri shows-or Ill do shows for Thurs and Fri with a Caveat that the wed shows just arent showing up for me. So yea Id say its a Cineplex thing-just adds another aspect to why Canadian markets can be so "fun" to track
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On 4/5/2024 at 7:11 AM, vafrow said:
To @DAJK @Tinaleraor any other Canadian trackers, is anyone else having issues with seat previews in Cineplex? It's happening for me mainly for early access shows for Fall Guy and POTA. But generally, things have been glitchy.
I thought it was just temporary issues that would resolve, but it's been going on for a few days now. I'm not sure if it's my end or not.
I have been checking recently, but I know Ive had issues in the past where I will see a theatre showing on a presales list, yet when I click it is says "no show times available" and Im like huh??? Happened a few times. Ill take a boo to see if I get issues
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16 hours ago, Porthos said:
Just... as is always my #1 Piece of Advice: Don't bite off more than you can chew. 🙂
This is why I have had to cut back on the amount I was doing and comps and all that. Was getting to be a bit more than I could, and with my own life just busy I try where I can to get in. It IS easy to fall into the "hey Im on a groove let me do more" track if one isnt prepared for it lol.
On a personal note I AM quite thrilled to see the amount of Canadian trackers now posting in various areas, and posting in the Canada forum as well as here, gives an even bigger picture up here-always good to see fellow canuckians
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Godzilla x Kong
Thurs Mar 28 Fri Mar 29 (T-4)
Toronto and Montreal Canada
Toronto # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 4 23 354 5719 6073 0.0582 Fri 4 38 524 8193 8717 0.0601 Montreal # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 3 18 109 3397 3506 0.0310 Fri 2 16 246 3829 4075 0.0603 - 3
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Godzilla x Kong
Thurs Mar 28 Fri Mar 29 (T-4)
Toronto and Montreal Canada
Toronto # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 4 23 354 5719 6073 0.0582 Fri 4 38 524 8193 8717 0.0601 Montreal # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 3 18 109 3397 3506 0.0310 Fri 2 16 246 3829 4075 0.0603 - 3
The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread
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I hadnt thought about the sports teams part-one would think theyd go to movies to get their minds off of it or whatever. Vancouver and Calgary when looking at Furiosa is along the lines for presales (Cal had poor sports showing while Van is in playoffs) but like nothing much. Be interesting to see if Furiosa is gaining any in Toronto when I do that count.