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Aquaman 2
Thurs Dec 21 and Fri Dec 22 (T-8 Thur T-9 Fri)
Vancouver and Calgary Canada
# theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Vancouver Thurs 3 18 27 3757 3784 0.0071 Fri 3 16 31 3843 3874 0.0080 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Calgary Thurs 4 23 32 4419 4451 0.0071 Fri 4 24 75 5131 5206 0.0144 Yea yea look what cat dragged in out of nowhere
Im still kicking lol
Thought Id drop this off. Dec Holiday season, running around. Will try and keep Aquaman going for a bit till opening day, Ill get in what I can.
These numbers....Ummmmmm
I mean yes its early still, all the reasons not to make assumptions but.....yea it is what it is. See if I can dig up a previous count for a comparison around same time.
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Another quick and Dirty for Toronto, no comps, again have not been following BOSS
Hunger Games BOSS
Thursday Nov 16 Fri Nov 17 (T-1 Fri)
Toronto Ontario
Toronto # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 4 23 833 5855 6688 0.1245 Fri 4 48 1260 11161 12421 0.1014 @vafrow Like Vancouver, similar numbers. Cant explain why in your area you are getting different numbers (other than SW Ontario being SW Ontario lol)-I always find it interesting when bigger areas are compared to smaller areas, and how the percentage sold can be quite different sometimes.
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20 hours ago, vafrow said:
On a per theatre and per showtime basis, it's doing better than my sample by about 30-40%, which would put it in line with what we're seeing in other markets.
Maybe the issue is regional. My sample is also from last night, so I'll see tonight if there's been much of a surge.
Ill see if I can drop a quick Toronto one later.
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Balland of Songs and Snakes
Turs Nov 16 Fri Nov 17
Vancouver Canada T-3
Quick and Dirty count. I havent been tracking BOSS at all
# theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Vancouver Thurs 4 17 408 3346 3754 0.1086 Fri 4 16 623 3330 3953 0.1576 I dont know what comps would fit that I would have that might fit.
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1 hour ago, vafrow said:
Is there anyone else looking at HG:BoSS in Canada?
I'm seeing a lot of confidence in preview numbers well above what I'm seeing in my numbers. I'm just curious if this is another Canadian thing or regional. I'm now sticking with a much smaller radius, which can distort more.
I can't think of why this would specifically underperform here.
I havent had a chance to take a look at much past few days. Ill see if I can pull up some numbers later to see what i can offer.
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43 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said:
Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville
The Marvels
Thursday Previews
T-0 *Final Update
SHOWINGS
SEATS SOLD
TOTAL SEATS
PERCENT SOLD
323
4508
66017
6.8%
*numbers taken as of 3:00PM EST
SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY
700 SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY
0
SELLOUTS
0
COMPS
T-0
(0.417x) of GOTG3 $7.30M Previews
(0.403x) of ATSV $7.00M Previews
Comps AVG: $7.15M
*Flash comp is at $7.65M*
This was a good finish. Officially going with $6.8M-$7.3M previews
If it pulls that preview and subsequent weekend that are being predicted.....House of Mouse board room might be a really interesting place on Monday.....
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The Marvels
Thurs Nov 9 and Fri Nov 10
Toronto and Montreal Canada T-1
Toronto # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 4 33 880 5044 5924 0.1485 Fri 4 52 848 13741 14589 0.0581 Montreal # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 4 22 523 5963 6486 0.0806 Fri 4 51 608 9877 13392 0.0454 Toronto pulling into double digits, reset staying at single digits
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11 hours ago, Porthos said:
This is Turtles erasu...
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Wait. The series would have had to been popular in the first place to actually 'recover' wouldn't it?
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I withdraw my objection.
(I actually agree with you, but I do think TMNT's success this year came out of effin' nowhere)
I think the stop-motion animation style really gave TMNT that notice to people as something different, and of it course it being TMNT
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1 hour ago, Hypercortical said:
Hey, I wanna scrape some pre-sale data in my area. Are there any tracking standards I should know about? Like I see people post data with a region listed. If I just scrape all the theaters that Fandango lists when I search for showing "near [insert city/state/whatever]" is that good enough? And if anyone has any recommendations on break durations to avoid rate limiting, I'd love to hear it.
I do manual counting myself, so admittedly I cant be much help. I am replying to thank you for wanting to join in and contribute with numbers-the more the better. I know there are a some here could definitely help you out-once welcome another counter is always welcome
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4 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:
For those who forgot about Quorum.
Hey be fair they werent off thaaaaaaaaaaaat much......well maybe a smidge
To be fair I dont think anyone saw the boffo-ness of those films.
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@keysersoze123GOTG 3 closest I have is a T-14.....it has double plus numbers at T-14 vs Marvels numbers I posted earlier at T-7
T-14 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Vancouver Thurs 4 21 613 3698 4311 0.1421 Fri 4 26 527 4517 5044 0.1044 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Calgary Thurs 4 21 458 3708 4166 0.1099 Fri 4 25 294 3698 3992 0.0736 And here's T-3 for GOTG 3
# theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Vancouver Thurs 4 26 1157 4192 5349 0.2163 Fri 4 26 1161 2879 4040 0.2873 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Calgary Thurs 4 26 656 3097 3753 0.1747 Fri 4 19 744 3592 4336 0.1715 -
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47 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:
Can you add any comps. Guardians or Flash would be good.
Ill take a dig back and see what I can find.
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The Marvels
Vancouver and Calgary Canada
Thurs Nov 9 and Fri Nov 10 (T-6/T-7)
# theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Vancouver Thurs 3 24 294 3797 4091 0.0718 Fri 3 22 229 4999 5228 0.0438 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Calgary Thurs 4 18 191 4860 5051 0.0378 Fri 4 26 185 5731 5916 0.0312 Calgary had a weird one where it looks they removed 4 shows for Friday? So that number is down for seats sold/available from previous count. Otherwise, Calgary seems pretty static with Vancouver making noise.
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The Marvels
Thurs Nov 9 and Fri Mar 10
Toronto and Montreal Canada
Toronto # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 4 25 314 4611 4925 0.0637 Fri 4 31 229 5740 5969 0.0383 Montreal # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 4 23 275 6166 6441 0.0426 Fri 4 35 340 9877 10217 0.0332 -
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I do admit I am tempted to check presales for "Thanksgiving"-esp seeing as here in Canada we had ours 2 weeks ago
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1 hour ago, Eric Fazbear said:
Quorum Updates
Five Nights at Freddy's T-1: 51.36% Awareness
Priscilla T-8: 32.09%
Trolls Band Together T-22: 46.57%
Next Goal Wins T-22: 16.03%
The Boy and the Heron T-43: 13.99%
Wonka T-50: 51.14%
The Color Purple T-60: 36.63%
Freelance T-1: 31.23% Awareness
Final Awareness: 37% chance of 10M
Low Awareness: 22% chance of 10M
Silent Night T-36: 24.34% Awareness
T-30 Awareness: 55% chance of 10M, 20% chance of 20M
Low Awareness: 35% chance of 10M, 5% chance of 20M
Anyone But You T-57: 18.54% Awareness
T-60 Awareness: 29% chance of 10M
Low Awareness: 25% chance of 10M
That "Anyone But You" I thought you were being clever in the "anyone but you is aware of this film"-then I realized thats the NAME of the film lol (which in an ironic way I havent heard of this film, so it may as well be right LOL)
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The Marvels
Thurs Nov 9 and Fri Nov 10
Vancouver and Calgary Canada
# theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Vancouver Thurs 3 18 199 3797 3996 0.0497 Fri 3 22 117 4999 5116 0.0228 # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Calgary Thurs 4 18 188 4017 4205 0.0447 Fri 4 30 206 6070 6276 0.0328 Feeling good enough to add Calgary to the mix again.
This restart has been helpful, a different way of setting up my sheets makes it a little more efficent (REALLY miss the "Seats sold/seats remaining on the website though.)
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1 hour ago, Porthos said:
The single biggest/most important piece of advice I can give you?
Well, besides soaking in all of the other advice?
DO NOT, and I can not stress this enough, ***DO NOT*** USE SMALL/MEDIUM RELEASES AS A GAUGE OF WHAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH WHEN IT COMES TO SAMPLING!
Why?
Because you'll think you can reach an equilibrium and then a Huge Release Monster will come around and just blow that sense of equilibrium out of the fucking water.
Or worse, two or three or four or five releases out at the same time will come along and just swamp you.
More trackers than I can count have flamed out to burnout because they misgauged or just got sick and tired of what they would be comfortable with when it came to tracking. Including long time heavy hitters like our own @Eric Mouse (though in the case of Eric, they also had shifting work patterns but that Mar-May period this year was hellish).
Varying ways of automation, starting with semi-automation (key word searches via HTML code/Inspect Elements) and going all the way up to full blown scrapers can help. But at a certain point, it can get overwhelming no matter how many tools/shortcuts one has at their disposal.
Hell, only reason I track the entire Greater Sacto region was because when I started out previews typically started at 7pm and about 1/3rd of the market was still non-reserved seating. Over the years, as previews have dramatically expanded and practically everyone has reserved seating? Let's just say that I personally would have quit years ago if I hadn't found several ways to mitigate the time to do things.
(and even here I've been considering revising my informal 7/70 rule due to IMs getting kneecapped with 2pm/3pm previews becoming standard)
So, yeah, listen to the technical advice and find out what works for you as well as what interest you in the area? But, as a more general matter? Whatever you think you'd like to look at? Ask yourself if you'd really want to look at all those theaters with an Endgame like monster going on.
Endgame....
That.....that was an experience alright, one i wont forget anytime soon.
It is very easy to fall into the trap as @Porthos said. You start feeling good with one film, you start tracking 2, 3 at the same time, different release sizes...then BOOM an endgame type film comes along and it gets crazy real quick and aforementioned burnout happens. Stick with what youre comfortable with, even if its just 1 movie title at a time-it all counts.
Thinking about Endgame, think I might go lie down for awhile now lol
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1 hour ago, Austin said:
Just out of genuine curiousity, how might one go about tracking? Like, how to start? I don't know if there's a post or thread about this somewhere but I was just considering maybe getting into tracking myself.
As others have said well, just find something comfortable and just start. It might just be 1 theatre in your town, There are ways to count, from people using scrapers to get data to just manually counting a theatre from a website. Don't worry about getting into things like comps if you don't want to, even just a simple "Theatre X Five Nights at Freddys 200 of 400 seats sold" type of thing. Any data is good data and we are all just volunteers doing what we can. Even if you can't do every day but just pop in every few days, its all good and it all counts. It is very welcoming here, effort appreciated, whether its 1 theatre, a number of theatres, or countrywide. Just do what you feel comfortable with
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1 hour ago, vafrow said:
Glad to see the overindexing I'm seeing is a bit more national, than just being isolated to my local sets.
I agree with @DAJK that it feels more Marvel than anything else.
I asked my 10 year old last night if he knows why FNAF might be more popular in Canada than the US, but he didn't have any theories. All the top YouTubers that focus on it are American he says.
From what I am seeing, suburb markets are outperforming urban markets. I had the same observations on ATSV when it was doing well locally. But, @Tinalera numbers show pretty good strength, and my recollection is that the sample there usually represents the urban areas well.
Might just be one of those things were Canada is doing "Canada things" when it comes to films. I do know that FNAF IP is pretty popular up here. I can certainly see the Marvel comparison in that it doesnt "feel" like a horror film (to me anyway). Just feels like its own thing, something a little different, and perhaps Canadian filmgoers are digging that maybe.
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Five Nights at Freddys
Thurs Oct 26 and Fri Oct 27
Toronto Ontario
Toronto # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 4 12 878 3902 4780 0.1836 Fri 3 14 245 3843 4088 0.0599 -
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14 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said:
They don't have any faith in the quality of the film I'm assuming. Peacock isnt big so I doubt OW will see that much of a hit
I have to admit streaming a film BEFORE the embargo lifts for its theatre opening.....its certainly a strategy...I donèt know to what ends but strategy nonetheless
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Five Nights At Freddys
Thurs Oct 26
Vancouver Canada
Vancouv # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent Thurs 3 15 12 185 2632 0.0045 Only Thursdays showing for FNAF (ONE has a Friday night, but Id rather wait till Friday nights are available for all or at least most of my theatres, little hesitant of just including ONE theatre)
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6 hours ago, Porthos said:
Five Nights At Freddy's Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report:
T-9 days and counting
Capped
Sellouts
Showings
Seats left
Total Seats
Seats Sold
Perct Sold
TOTALS
0
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122
15268
17695
2427
13.72%
Total Showings Added Today
20
Total Seats Added Today
2424
Total Seats Sold Today
125
T-9 Comps: WARNING - USE MOSTLY FOR DAILY PACE PURPOSES FOR THE BELOW COMPS
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Sold
T-9Total
Sold
Sellouts
Shows
Seats Left
Total Seats
Perct
Sold
Final
Sold
% of
Final
Comp
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203.61
71
1192
0/152
21769/22961
5.19%
4494
54.01%
15.27m
Scrm6
285.53
42
850
0/77
8897/9747
8.72%
3134
77.44%
16.28m
Wick4
165.89
71
1463
0/109
13836/15299
9.56%
5448
44.55%
14.76m
AtSV
93.60
192
2593
0/140
19549/22142
11.71%
9744
24.91%
16.24m
GOTG3
57.25
124
4239
0/207
25745/29984
14.14%
10750
22.58%
10.02m
TLM
113.94
125
2130
0/165
21370/23500
9.06%
6561
36.99%
11.74m
Flash
156.68
120
1549
0/175
23344/24893
6.22%
5327
45.56%
15.20m
Barbie
75.14
302
3230
0/127
12791/16071
20.10%
12077
20.10%
16.76m
FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of FNAFs current tickets sold versus that final number.
Regal: 533/3078 [17.32% sold]
Matinee: 203/926 [21.92% | 8.36% of all tickets sold]=========
From earlier today:
So literally.... LIT-ER-A-LY... EVERY SINGLE LOCAL MTC2 THEATER EXCEPT ONE EXPANDED SCREEN COUNTS TONIGHT. Plus one of the minors also added a showing*.
*though technically not a screen as it added a late night showing.
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So what about MTC3?!?
Let's get a Live Look locally what's going on over at MTC3 when it comes to approving more screens:
(not a single one of the added showings was at MTC3)((amazing, innit?))
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Im still kicking lol
I mean yes its early still, all the reasons not to make assumptions but.....yea it is what it is. See if I can dig up a previous count for a comparison around same time.
To be fair I dont think anyone saw the boffo-ness of those films.
The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread
in Box Office Discussion
Posted · Edited by Tinalera
Thats interesting they are doing that. Id be very interested to see if they see people buying the cheap tickets they modify the deal to state only certain prices/show times.
That point about the points and ticket revenue is a good one. I mean say it even splits even and the 3 tickets work out to close to 50, they're giving that money back in the points.
Id be interested in revenue related verbiage for tax stuff if that 50 dollars is able to be written off in a way while still making the money-depends on what the whole tax thing of points and money value is.
that's probably a pretty fun can of worms lol