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    Christmas Weekend Thread | Avatar 95.6m, PiB 20.05m, Babylon 4.85m 4 days

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    5 minutes ago, PenguinHyphy said:

    The "bleak" excuse is not working for the purported "prestige" projects because there is nothing bleak about the marketing for The Fabelmans, Amsterdam or Babylon. They were either marketed as a frivolous comedy or a soft domestic drama similar to Terms of Endearment in the case of The Fabelmans. They just do not appear to be entertaining, and honestly, they appear to be nothing new or unique. There is no doubt that this is the worst Oscar season in terms of quality. The "prestige" projects are barely outgrossing Judas and the Black Messiah theatrically, and that came out on HBO Max with no New York or Los Angeles theaters open, theater capacity being a thing still and a vaccine not being commercially available. That is fucking pitiful, and there is no way to spin that. The problem is the movies that they are putting out. They really have to begin putting out intriguing projects again, not ones about show business or the majestic nature of theaters or whatever other nonsense. No one wants to see that shit. Amsterdam, Babylon, Empire of the Light and The Fabelmans all are about that in some sense or another                                          

    You're calling a lineup with Avatar, Top Gun, Everything Everywhere, Banshees, and Tar the worst ever? Do you remember 2018? Bohemian Rhapsody, Vice, and Green Book all top contenders over A Star is Born, The Favourite, BlackKklansman, etc.

    Weekdays Thread (12/19-22) | Avatar: The Way of 14.5 | Mon 16.2, Tue 18.3, Wed 14.3, Thu 14.5| Puss 3.2 OD | Check In For Your Hourly Weather Update

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    FWIW, Deadline is seeing $20m today and an $83m 4-day for Avatar, with hopes of $90m if business picks up earlier than expected this weekend. I could definitely see it undershoot that 4-day estimate with tomorrow likely being BRUTAL for box office, but we'll see.

    Weekdays Thread (12/19-22) | Avatar: The Way of 14.5 | Mon 16.2, Tue 18.3, Wed 14.3, Thu 14.5| Puss 3.2 OD | Check In For Your Hourly Weather Update

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    6 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

    https://variety.com/2022/film/news/avatar-the-way-of-water-box-office-550-million-1235467215/

     

    On Tuesday, “Avatar: The Way of Water” added a solid $18.3 million domestically and $40.5 million internationally. So far, it’s generated $168.6 million domestically and $387.3 million internationally to date, taking its global tally to $555.9 million.

    That's...very good on both counts, right? International especially ticked up like $3m from Charlie's early estimates, nice. Let's see how hard this deflated Saturday and winter storm hits.

    Weekdays Thread (12/19-22) | Avatar: The Way of 14.5 | Mon 16.2, Tue 18.3, Wed 14.3, Thu 14.5| Puss 3.2 OD | Check In For Your Hourly Weather Update

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    12 minutes ago, Eric in Boots said:

    HOLY SHIT GUYS

     

    EmpireCity just messaged me out of the blue! He still told me that I suck, but he actually gave me numbers 😱😱😱

     

    Avatar's heading its way to 22M!!!!!!

     

    What an increase! Guess the evils of streaming is long gone and people are willing to beat the cold. Daddy Cameron, you've done it again! Russos found dead in a ditch! Now we can move on from arguing over a 5-year-old kids movie!

    Out of reacts so I'll just say bravo for squashing this cul-de-sac of a conversation lol

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    Weekdays Thread (12/19-22) | Avatar: The Way of 14.5 | Mon 16.2, Tue 18.3, Wed 14.3, Thu 14.5| Puss 3.2 OD | Check In For Your Hourly Weather Update

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    2 minutes ago, Porthos said:

     

    Preeeeeeety sure I can think of a worse year it could have been scheduled to be released.

    One of the *unexpectedly* worst times lol. Massive national blizzard followed by Christmas Eve and Day eating into weekend grosses, in tandem with arguably the largest COVID panic in China yet, is unexpectedly brutal. Obviously 2020 is on a whole other level.

    A2 WEEKEND THREAD | 134.1M DOM OW | Thurs 17m / Fri 36m / Sat 45m / Sun 36m

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    Really enjoyed watching this tonight in an IMAX 3D, non-HFR presentation. For me, the 3h15 minute runtime felt more like 2.5, and while I felt the movie lacked a Hometree-level sequence of peril, I was overall more emotionally and narratively engaged with this film than the original, and because the stakes were intimate, they arguably felt higher. The kids are seriously great. Lo'ak and Kiri have my heart. The first act is good enough, but acts two and three were superb for me. Final 15 minutes or so definitely brought a few tears - something that never happened to me in '09.

    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    typo

    22 minutes ago, danziger said:

    This guy has almost 12 million subs, says he's been the Scrooge of Avatar, a very harsh critic, but he loved TWOW, says "it's a three-hour movie but somehow it felt like an hour" and "I really thought they were going to drop the ball here and flounder because they have so many characters ... but somehow they actually do a good job of making you care about their fate."

     

    "I really do recommend checking it out even if you didn't like the first one I actually think this one has a much better chance of winning you over and selling you on the Avatar Universe because this does everything the first one aimed to do better. I never thought I'd watch a three hour film and ask for more immediately after but I really am extremely excited to see the third one now."

    Critikal is a great YouTube personality, one of my personal favorites. So glad he thoroughly enjoyed it. T-90 minutes till my showtime!

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    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    6 minutes ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

     

    adding to that

     

    whats "worse", is that there were pre-release hints that maybe that perfection had been achieved, its what lead to me sticking my kneck out and predict an insane 91 on mc, its what fueled my 3 billion + predictions from the start, it why I began dooming when the first 8/10-tier reaction dropped, I instantly knew that the "perfection" you spoke about had not even been achieved

     

    maybe Jim Cameron was talking about avatar 3 or 4 all along, but I cant see how that isnt a massive strategical mistake 

     

    I get being disappointed, but I fail to see how your own astronomically high expectations reflect on Cameron as a massive strategic mistake. 91 MC puts it in LOTR territory which was just never going to happen with Cameron's writing tendencies

    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    22 minutes ago, StreamBO said:

    If it is IMAX most probably IT IS HFR alot of IMAX don't say if they are HFR but end up being HFR, IMAX has probably HFR in all of them because p Cameron wants it so. You have p most of a chance standard not being HFR. 

     

    3 minutes ago, GipJo said:

    I think all laser IMAX screens are HFR, even some digital imax screens.

    Interestingly my IMAX theater only has HFR listed for the standard 3D and RPX 3D showings. I even texted my buddy who works at the theater and he said he saw it in IMAX 3D and it wasn't HFR. I'm pretty sure it's a LieMax, so that could be why lol

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