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As of nearly half an hour ago, the new year has begun for me. Happy new year to all! Here's to greener pastures this year.
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4 hours ago, titanic2187 said:
A subtitled foreign film reaching $50M domestically is honestly insane to me, when most of them are lucky to make a tenth of that in the end. This bodes very well for Godzilla x Kong next year provided that lives up to the first duel.
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13 minutes ago, Valonqar said:
Unironically the most boring boxoffice in a long time. Nothing breaking out nor flopping super hard, eevrything doing average numbers. Fine runs are just fine, bad runs are bad but not abysmal. It's a very mediocre season showing that people won't show up in big numbers just because it's holidays.
The tradeoff is that everyone gets a fair piece of the pie instead of one megablockbuster sucking the air out of the room while everything else fails.
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Aquaman 2 is a failure and will lose a lot of money. But at least with the help of the holiday corridor it won't end up being on the same level as Flash or Marvels. This was always going to be the best case scenario for it. After the production drama and James Gunn's reboot announcement, and just by being the final leftover of a regime long gone, it was never going to be successful. At this point we should all be glad that this sick animal has finally been put to sleep, start looking to the future and see what Gunn brings to the table instead of arguing endlessly over how big of a failure Aquaman 2 is. Let's use that energy to lobby for a Wan cut of the movie in 20 or so years.
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1 hour ago, MightyDargon said:
What an absolute waste of a Christmas release slot. Another studio should have counterprogrammed it with...something.
At least we know why they ran like scared rabbits from the Avatar 2 slot last year.
Warner's the one that wanted it out of the way as soon as they could, for they have a franchise reboot they need to get into. At least the nature of the holiday corridor will prevent it from being a Marvels-level nuclear bomb. And it's not like they're betting it all on it either, as both Wonka and Colour Purple were placed near it as backup options. That was definitely a wise choice considering Disney betting it all on Wish blew up in their faces, and Wonka is doing very well.
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3 hours ago, Joel M said:
I was wondering about that ever since the project was anounced. I don't know how the musical incorporates songs into that kind of story, it might have been done tastefully. But from what I remember from the Spielberg version it has rape and domestic abuse in it, and I just find it weird that there's a musical version with songs between all this horrifying stuff. Even if the songs are serious.
Yeah, some of the stuff that I've read about the source material makes me wonder why Warner thought it'd make for a Christmas musical. Again, it really should've been pushed back to Black History Month of next year where it'd be a better fit. They also probably should've gone for a more modest budget, but I digress. I also wonder if a lot of black audiences are just sick and tired of black trauma movies and rejecting this as a result.
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2 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:
I was waiting until some FRI data but yeah, Color Purple is kinda of a disaster at this point
Which is shocking considering the reviews was actually solid, so is WOM
Black women seemingly rushed out to see it on Christmas Day, and no one else cared about it, thus the steep drops in the following days. I can't help but wonder if this should've been pushed back to Black History Month of next year. Wonka would've had more room to breathe too.
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Wonder Woman 1984 would've been the second coming of Batman v Superman. It would've opened huge in a normal world thanks to the goodwill of the first movie, but then it'd drop so hard it'd make the aforementioned Zaddy piece look like The Greatest Showman.
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28 minutes ago, Eric Wonka said:
I’ll get into this more tomorrow, but Twisters is one movie where it could be a sub-100 bomb or a giant 300+ hit and neither would surprise me. It has a big benefit where these kinds of disaster movies haven’t been out for a while, which gives it an advantage like Top Gun or Jurassic World had in terms of feeling fresh.
I do think them going for a remake instead of a legacyquel however does seem like something that could backfire. Like I know we all groan over forced nostalgia pandering/member berries, but the masses eat that trash up. Having Helen Hunt in there so people can Leo point and tweet “OMG MY CHILDHOOD” goes a long way in the hype circuit.
They also for sure need a CGI flying cow money shot in the trailer. No cow, no deal.
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5 hours ago, Zak said:
The thing is The Color Purple crawling to 100M still isn't going to make it a hit because the overseas numbers will be bad. That 100M budget is insane for a film the had poor international prospects.
They gambled on a mini Black Panther breakout not too dissimilar to what Disney were hoping to see for their Little Mermaid remake. And it just didn't end up happening despite the early presales. At least Mermaid did decent enough domestically that merchandise revenue will likely be enough to make that profitable in the end. This one has been falling off a cliff after Christmas Day and probably won't even reach $100M domestically.
Also, what happened to your old account? I recognize you, but I don't think you got banned or anything as far as I'm aware.
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2 hours ago, 4815162342 said:
this bit has become exhausting
Especially when you consider that most of those have either underperformed or outright bombed this year.
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9 hours ago, Mojoguy said:
James Gunn needs to get the hell off twitter.
Debunking all the rumors isn't helping this movie. In fact rumors is a type of free marketing. Also him responding to everything makes him look like he has nothing better to do.
No, if anything, his consistency in getting out there and preventing rumours from spreading far and wide is building goodwill for his reboot in me. The previous DC regimes had ridiculous leak problems, and stayed radio silent whenever many detrimental rumours and controversies got out of hand. I could also rant about them announcing 500 movies based on random characters nobody asked for every hour instead of trying to fix relations with their main cast, but that's another issue entirely.
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9 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:
Yep...at least not yet,
2 musicals at once really did split the musical audience down the middle, b/c while Wonka is winning December, it's still not getting close to what some folks hoped for a big breakout.
I'd have thought that audience wouldn't mind seeing 2 musicals...well, maybe they don't, but they haven't yet...
Then again, I saw one movie this week, and I'll watch one next week b/c nothing appeals to me much in January, so folks could stretch out movie going based on price and convenience...
I don't think many were expecting a mega breakout for Wonka, as it's the third adaptation of an old-time literary character, one that today's kids might not know or see as lame if they do. With that in mind, it's still making a lot more than I was expecting it to, and it has an easy path to $200M with Colour Purple not being the threat it was seen to be, and therefore not having much demographical competition.
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12 minutes ago, interiorgatordecorator said:
disappointed to have a michael mann movie feel like such a non-event
Serious movies like this don't make much money anymore, and its reviews aren't good enough to build the word of mouth to overcome that.
9 minutes ago, interiorgatordecorator said:4.4 off Christmas opening day
and what the heck were they doing releasing avp requiem on Christmas day
What the hell were they thinking greenlighting that at all after the lukewarm response to the first one? Just one of many bad decisions Fox made under Tom Rothman, decisions that would ultimately lead to their downfall and being devoured by The Mouse.
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Making the second movie end the way it did is such a rash and irresponsible decision it boggles the mind. They knew in advance the second part wouldn't be ready for years yet, and they still decided to end the last one in a major cliffhanger. Sony's awful management of its Spider-Man properties is still apparent even many years after their first shared universe attempt imploded.
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9 minutes ago, JustLurking said:
sure is feeling like TCP is Ali 2.0
It's funny to see that being brought up right when its director has a new movie making the rounds. And yeah, its drops seem really bad to me, especially for the early 2000s. I guess Sony was counting on Lord of the Rings falling flat on its face.
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17 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:
TCP 4
Wonka 8.1
Migration 6.2
Aquabro 5.9
Yeah, Wonka's winning the month in America too, not just overseas. I'll have to eat crow, as I seriously thought Colour Purple would win looking at the early presales. @charlie Jatinder saw it coming early, so props to him. I guess the big black communities all saw it on Christmas Day and nobody else showed up afterwards.
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1 hour ago, Last Man Standing said:
It's also the only time people actually still talk about the Marvels.
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43 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:
March 8
Kung Fu Panda 4: Dreamworks sequels as of late haven't quite been struggling but are not generating enough buzz and interest as the studio did even a decade ago. Having been 8 years since the last Kung Fu Panda, its prospects are a bit unpredictable. The franchise has historically seen diminishing returns domestically in favor of higher international skews, which I expect continue. Older audience turnout will make or break the gross, especially if a newer Dreamworks franchise like Trolls is inching across 100M. I just don't think the nostalgia is there for another installment. 20/80 (4x)
Imaginary: Unlike Night Swim, this has time to generate buzz for Blumhouse and starts the first film in a Lionsgate partnership. If it's at least decent, being the first horror film since January could help fuel a mini-breakout. 14/42 (3x)
Cabrini: Angel Studios film? Angel Studios gross. 5/15 (3x)
I have to agree with that Kung Fu Panda 4 prediction. That trailer did absolutely nothing for me, and Mike Mitchell's journeyman nature won't help it at all. Had the early rumours about the Puss 2 team handling it been true it would've stood a chance.
Also, while I mostly expect Dune 2 to do well, I have this sinking feeling that it might underperform like Dead Reckoning did this year. People might have had their fill the first time not necessarily want any more.
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49 minutes ago, Eric Wonka said:
February 2
Argylle: Even with the trailer playing before every movie, Quorum awareness is still nonexistent. And frankly, these kinds of action comedy movies need a Ryan Reynolds or Sandra Bullock or Brad Pitt-style movie star to help sell it. I like Sam Rockwell, but he just ain’t it. People may predict this as a wild card, but I know this is yet another dud for the year. Maybe this does better on Apple TV+. 7/20 (2.86x)
How much do you want to bet these numbers end up happening, but for Madame Web instead?
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With that CinemaScore, could this achieve a feat only seen every once in a blue moon?
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Honestly these numbers are a lot better than I was expecting. It still would've been preferrable to see an actually big central tentpole like in previous years, but the wealth seems to be distributed fairly here at least. Aquaman 2 and Migration might both get to $100M, but poor word of mouth on the former and the latter not being received enthusiastically like Puss 2 was last year will prevent them from making much more methinks.
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So I just got out of Aquaman 2, and well...
That was an empty mess. The first movie's ocean's worth of charm and earnestness is almost entirely absent. The story is incoherent and all over the place. They turned Arthur into a quip machine straight out of a bad Marvel movie. The effects are a noticeable downgrade over that first movie. And finally, the third act was among the most anticlimactic I've seen on film. As a big fan of James Wan's previous work I was massively let down here. But taking all the drama we've been hearing for well over a year now into account, I don't fully blame him. In the end, it's finally over. This blubbering mess of a franchise has finally been put to rest. And now DC can finally start to move on and forward with Gunn.
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39 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:
They kinda brush over some things a bit fast (I think the trident thing could have been shot in a much cooler way than just a random wide shot) but it's very good. Also Mantzoukas as Mr D is beyond perfect. Arguably the best cast character in the show.
Mantzoukas is an underrated actor in general. He was terrific in DuckTales and is great in Invincible. I hope this leads him to bigger opportunities in the years to come.
Thunderbolts* | May 2, 2025 | MCU
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Yeah, this movie's getting scrapped. Yeun saw the writing on the wall with Quantumania falling flat on its face and The Marvels landing the killing blow, and wisely decided to take the money and run while he still could. I don't blame him at all. And frankly I have a feeling he won't be the last. Hopefully Marvel sees it too and hard reboots as soon as possible. Don't needlessly drag a dying world out like DC did.