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17 minutes ago, Ledmonkey96 said:
So how's saturday looking, or is the weekend to depressing to track?
Don't ask that on the weekend thread! People have to got spend pages and pages arguing whether Comic Book movies are on their last legs or is Jennifer Lawrence is worth 25 million.
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14 minutes ago, emoviefan said:
Gonna stick with the fact that we do this with every MI movie and they turn out fine in the end. Of Course that was pre covid. Cant see this doing sub No Time to Die WW but who the hell knows anymore.
And it sure as hell better not do sub Fast 10 WW.
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4 minutes ago, CJohn said:
Seems like MI is not doing great so far.
Gonna stick with the fact that we do this with every MI movie and they turn out fine in the end. Of Course that was pre covid. Cant see this doing sub No Time to Die WW but who the hell knows anymore.
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8 minutes ago, TomThomas said:
Peter is very much treated as rich. Aunt is far from poor too, they certainly don't struggle at all. And how world building of shared universe has anything to do with whether it's a faithful adaptation of Spider-Man or not, I don't get it. Peter Parker was never ugly in any adaptation, so not sure about misconception either. You are talking about the essence of the character, but from what I can see everything that defined the character was taken away from top to bottom, so what this essence is in your opinion and how it's more faithful than previous adaptations?
I think I went cross eyed reading some of these back and forth and arguments.
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33 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said:
I don’t believe the hilarious mental gymnastics that people go out of their way to claim Marvel is declining, yes. I think it’s one whole lot of bullshit preached as gospel. It’s more wishful thinking than factual, with a lot of caveats to justify when the films do blow up.
These people are just laughable. It's like if they say it enough a few times it will come true.
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Just looking at MIssion Impossible OG's opening in May of 96. It had Tuesday May 21 previews of 3.4 and on Wed it did 8.3 and Thursday it did 6.3. For the 4 day memorial day weekend it did 56.8 for a total 74.9. 27 years of inflation DR should be way above that in dollars made. Admissions will of course be down. I know times have changed but still interesting.
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2 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:
Movie Day Area TC Shows New Sold Seats % Sold M:I 7 T-17 Jax 6 69 -1 133 10,964 1.21% Phx 6 58 8 98 11,155 0.88% Ral 8 54 4 134 8,344 1.61% Total 20 181 11 365 30,463 1.20% M:I 7 (EA) T-15 Jax 3 3 0 33 418 7.89% Phx 2 2 0 2 363 0.55% Ral 1 1 0 15 111 13.51% Total 6 6 0 50 892 5.61% T-16 Jax 5 7 6 111 1,407 7.89% Phx 1 1 2 37 410 9.02% Ral 2 2 13 63 412 15.29% Total 8 10 21 211 2,229 9.47% M:I 7 (Total) T-17 comps
- JWD Total - .264x (4.75m)
- Shazam 2 - 1.81x (6.15m)
- Black Widow - .38x (5.01m)
- Avatar 2 - .342x (5.82m)
- F9 - 1.42x (10.08m)
- John Wick 4 - 1.07x (9.54m)
- Top Gun Total - .29x (5.6m)
Size adjusted average - 7.4m
I think right now this, Indy and Oppenheimer are dividing up the old white male demo. The demo that could give two sh-ts about Barbie. I hope the three movies can coexist against that.
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1 hour ago, M37 said:
Even without the comps, that was very good day for Indy in your markets (+13.3%), suggesting it may start to come up and at least meet the other tracking samples at ~$7-$8M. For comparison, Flash was only +5.5% at this checkpoint (comp value jumped from $5.73 to $6.49)
Between this update, Denver (+5.9% vs 3.3% for Flash), and Emagine (+8.7% vs 6.7%), do get the feeling that the GA is going to "come home" at least somewhat, Indy won't totally crash, but lets see how next couple of days go
At this point I think we are just hoping for a massive disappointment and not a complete bomb of all time failure. Lowered expectations aren't they great.
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2 hours ago, Ryan Reynolds said:
these movies would have strong buzz with bigger actors as villian , get a Denzel or Will Smith as the bad guy , too bad Cruise does not like sharing billing
You got a point there. Where is the Javier Bardem, Christoph Waltz, Mads Mickeslson or Rami Malek of these movies. Although Phillip Seymour Hoffman won a oscar right before 3 came out and then it became the lowest grossing of the series. No fault of his though of course.
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5 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:
Buzz is extremely low "online" the only reason Fallout was talked about more is because of Cavill
And that's the history of this franchise. Nobody talks much about these movies and, I say that as a massive fan of them, and they do just fine in the end. Of course that was pre covid this could be another No Time To Die so so domestic and great overseas.
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2 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said:
Literally every movie do these things, and July 12 is the release date anyway
Exactly. Her shtick is getting so old with this movie.
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11 minutes ago, Maggie said:
what do we make out of this? Paramount getting nervous because buzz is low?
https://advancescreenings.com/movie/mission_impossible_dead_reckoning_part_one
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5 minutes ago, M37 said:
This isn’t so much directed at you, but I see this old folks = walk-ups thrown out over and over … and it’s just no longer true
One of the effects of the pandemic is that the Olds on the whole - by necessity - got more comfortable with online purchases. As a result, they now buy tickets earlier than many of their younger counterparts, not later/walk-up heavy. (Examples: Elvis & NTTD). They might help the IM/weekend total by being more patient for Sat/Sun than Thir/Fri, but even then we’d see the sales numbers days or more out
Can’t count on an AARP surge to save a film if the sales just aren’t thereThey also tend to be more review dependent and those reviews while they have improved are not enough push them off the fence in great numbers, This needed to be TG Maverick and it is not.
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10 minutes ago, CJohn said:
I just wanted to see a comedy (or a drama) do really well. NHF is fresh on RT, has a fun concept and a star. A 15M OW is crap.
R rated comedies were dying theatrically before covid. It is what it is at this point.
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6 minutes ago, ZackM said:
The Dine-In AMC shows are also particularly strong.
That seems odd for a movie targeting older people. 😃
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21 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:
Just absolutely wretched numbers for NHF and Asteroid City off previews. This isn't even fun anymore. It's like a slow funeral.
yep trust those mid afternoon deadline numbers sure. Once again 6 out the last 7 weekends had 50 million openings at least. God the doom and gloom around this place.
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20 minutes ago, baumer said:
I think a lot of the Indy crowd will be people like me, people who grew up with him as a teenager. And I never buy my tickets online. If Indy doesn't touch 500 worldwide that would be a total shock.
Once again fingers crossed on that.
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5 minutes ago, CJohn said:
The number 1 movie will gross around 18M in the heart of June just before the 4th of July. Theatrical business exploding. We are totally back.
We had 6 weekends out of the last 7 where a movie opened to over 50 million. From the middle of feb to the first weekend of april we only had one weekend without a 30 million dollar opener. I know this is your shtick but come on. If the Flash had not completely imploded this weekend would look a lot better. Its the product when people want to see something they will see it.
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34 minutes ago, John Marston said:
well that would be really shocking if that happens. I think Indy should be more walk up driven and especially have good walk ups from boomers/the AARP crowd so I won’t count it out yet
Fingers crossed not holding my breath on that the way things are going.
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35 minutes ago, AJG said:
John Carter was a good time and I’ll die on this hill.No John carter bombed and we are not supposed to like movies that bomb. We should disown them and ridducle them because we are to insecure to do otherwise. I think I just described a lot of people on this forum maybe.
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10 minutes ago, filmlover said:
On the contrary, August looking to be as weak as it is should allow these movies to develop strong staying power during the dog days of summer through the early fall when we enter a surprisingly busy September.
MI movies always have legs and good WOM if received well.Hopefully it can coexist with Oppenheimer since they are both targeting the Old white man demo along with Indy also.
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11 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:
Movie Day Area TC Shows New Sold Seats % Sold M:I 7 T-18 Jax 6 69 3 134 10,964 1.22% Phx 6 58 10 90 11,155 0.81% Ral 8 54 1 130 8,344 1.56% Total 20 181 14 354 30,463 1.16% M:I 7 (EA) T-16 Jax 3 3 0 33 418 7.89% Phx 2 2 0 2 363 0.55% Ral 1 1 2 15 111 13.51% Total 6 6 2 50 892 5.61% T-17 Jax 5 7 6 105 1,407 7.46% Phx 1 1 0 35 410 8.54% Ral 2 2 16 50 412 12.14% Total 8 10 22 190 2,229 8.52% M:I 7 (Total) T-18 comps
- JW3 Total - .262x (4.71m)
- Shazam 2 - missed
- Black Widow - .382x (5.05m)
- Avatar 2 - missed
- F9 - 1.5x (10.62m)
- John Wick 4 - 1.1x (9.81m)
- Top Gun Total - missed
Size adjusted average - 8.87m
That is an improvement from yesterday. at least.
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32 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:
I absolutely hate to doom post(there is too much of it on this forum). But we just had a mega disaster last week which is getting flushed out. This weekend we are seeing a lull after weeks of 50m+ openers. Spiderverse will probably win and we wont see a 20m weekend BO for any movie !!!
Next week Indy is looking dire. Last week Flash did 3.6K on T-7(which was abject)/ Indy is doing 1917 by my check !! Overall its under 2/3rd of flash and daily pace is worse. Friday is better with it being low 70s% of Flash and pace is similar to Previews. I am sure it wont finish as badly as Flash for sure. Still cannot see more than 8m previews and 8x multi at this point. I think Black Adam is best comp. I hope I am wrong. @M37 graphs may show a better numbers.
I am not impressed with MI7 as well with daily pace. I am not convinced with Sunday start with early shows on standard screens. This should have opened this weekend or even alongside Indy to benefit from July 4 holiday.
But I am hopeful for 1-2 punch of B+O. That hopefully does not falter at the finish line as nothing beyond that in the summer looks good to me. Haunted Mansion, Meg 2 etc are not looking to me as domestic breakouts.
33 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:I absolutely hate to doom post(there is too much of it on this forum). But we just had a mega disaster last week which is getting flushed out. This weekend we are seeing a lull after weeks of 50m+ openers. Spiderverse will probably win and we wont see a 20m weekend BO for any movie !!!
Next week Indy is looking dire. Last week Flash did 3.6K on T-7(which was abject)/ Indy is doing 1917 by my check !! Overall its under 2/3rd of flash and daily pace is worse. Friday is better with it being low 70s% of Flash and pace is similar to Previews. I am sure it wont finish as badly as Flash for sure. Still cannot see more than 8m previews and 8x multi at this point. I think Black Adam is best comp. I hope I am wrong. @M37 graphs may show a better numbers.
I am not impressed with MI7 as well with daily pace. I am not convinced with Sunday start with early shows on standard screens. This should have opened this weekend or even alongside Indy to benefit from July 4 holiday.
But I am hopeful for 1-2 punch of B+O. That hopefully does not falter at the finish line as nothing beyond that in the summer looks good to me. Haunted Mansion, Meg 2 etc are not looking to me as domestic breakouts.
Shawn can you counter this please. Really trying not to get seriously bummed out. I understand Indy with the mixed reviews and not a peak franchise but there is no reason for MI to underperform unless being the 7th movie in a franchise no matter how consistently good it is people just don't care as much. I dont know just trying to cope right now.
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Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part 1 | July 12 2023 | 99% on Rotten Tomatoes! | 290M budget so far, Cruise holding Paramount hostage for more money
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700m domestic and 1.4 billion gonna happen,I wish, and he can be the outlier like he was last year with TG Maverick