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    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    3 hours ago, Deep Wang said:

     

    Of course, no matter what share Disney gets of the Avatar sequels, they would love a bigger slice, who wouldn't??  I guess it's weird for everyone in here(the Jim Gang) to just automatically assume Disney will just immediately piss of Cameron and risk losing on even the tiniest slice of that pie.  Especially when the catalyst for this discussion lies specifically with the WW gross of Avatar and Endgame, which doesn't even matter because Disney will win in the long run. 

     

    Doing a quick search, I can't find any articles about the deal in place and what the actual cut is.  Does anyone have that info available?  Where are people getting the 20% figure from to begin with?  

     

     

     

    I can't find anything on that either and considering most articles about the Pandora world at Disney mention that both Fox and Cameron were getting a licensing fee from Disney I'd be shocked if the deal around Avatar is as simple as Fox merely being a distributor for the films getting 20%.

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    AVENGERS ENDGAME | 1939.4 M overseas ● 2797.8 M worldwide

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    4 minutes ago, VanillaSkies said:

    Anecdotally, check out AEG showtimes at Empire 25 in NYC today;
    https://www.amctheatres.com/showtimes/avengers-endgame-45840/2019-07-02/amc-empire-25/all
    The first 3 shows are near sellouts, and the 4pm and 7:15pm are hours from even starting. 

    It appears that Spidey opening hasn't hampered it's legs at all. 

     

    It this plays out nationally on the domestic front, we could see some decent holds right up until July 11th. 
    Couple that with the staggered OS re-release (Indonesia and Brazil now confirmed, which were huge markets for AEG) and there are definitely many paths to the record. 

     

    It's not certain, nothing ever is in life. 

    But things are certainly looking better than some of those articles will have you believe. Also, it looks like the articles don't take into account that this past weekend was severely underestimated WW. When you are talking about such a small number needed to surpass the record, things like that matter. 

    The other obvious factor is that it is pretty clear that the re-release is going to at worst get AEG within $10 million of the record and there is just no way any studio is going to let a movie fall that short of a record like this. 

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    AVENGERS ENDGAME | 1939.4 M overseas ● 2797.8 M worldwide

    in International Box Office

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    4 minutes ago, Hemo memo said:

    What is this?

     

    Avengers: Endgame fans coming to terms with Avatar remaining the top-grossing movie

     

    Avengers: Endgame Is Now Less Than $25 Million Away From Toppling Avatar's Record

     

    Predictions here make me optimistic but reading everywhere else it’s like the battle is over and Endgame already lost.

    It might not pass it but the people here tend to know a lot more about box office than the people writing these articles.

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    The New Mutants | August 28, 2020 | Rumors are saying it released, but no one we know saw it

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    3 hours ago, OncomingStorm93 said:

     

    2: Feige will not be retrofitting a low budget Fox horror mutant spinoff film to introduce mutants to the MCU. He will produce a film from start to finish, on his timeline. Everything in the MCU stems from Feige from the onset.

    Agree 100% with this.  If anything I think Disney would prefer to remove any connections at all to the X-Men/Marvel rather than using this film to introdue mutants to the MCU.

    Memorial Weekend Thread: 4-Day Actuals - Aladdin $116.81M | John Wick 3 $30.97M | Avengers Endgame $22.06M | Pokemon DP $17.25M

    in Numbers and Data

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    44 minutes ago, Pure Spirit said:

    Siding with @baumer on this. Using the logic that BatB remake made $X amount and BatB original made $Y amount, therefore TLK remake will make $Z is faulty logic. Aladdin, despite being a relative success, is exhibit A for this. I don't personally know a lot of people clamoring to see TLK in CGI, and I feel if this breaks out huge (beyond BatB) it's going to be on its own merits for being an utter visual spectacle that gets everyone talking (which, to be fair, it might!). I'm the poster-child for TLK, I saw the original when I was in middle school... THREE times. As a parent, I don't have a huge urge to see TLK, except maybe once out of curiosity. Trailer views can also be deceptive, the TLK remake has a huge "curiosity" factor that may not translate into box office sales. I got a push notification from Apple News to watch the trailer, so, that could explain some of the views. :) Bottom line is, my gut instinct is somewhere around BatB would be a really good result for the TLK CGI remake. I think it's going to disappoint some of the more enthusiastic proponents.

    Trailer views can definitely be deceptive but not at the level they are at.  TLK is going to be massive.

    Tuesday numbers

    in Numbers and Data

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    1 hour ago, Valonqar said:

    70M+ OW here we come! :bravo:

    Maybe but never a good sign with the way presales are trending when the Fandango compares are to a film from 2015 and one from 2016.  It really doesn't mean anything that it is outpacing those films in presales.

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