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2 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:
This might matter if the audience review section didn't make me feel like I accidentally wandered into a Breitbart forum.
Yep, Especially since it is clear as hell a huge portion of the negatives haven’t even seen the movie.
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23 minutes ago, Quigley said:
This should have been released in December. There is no doubt about that. What a stupid decision by Disney.
I think August was the release date for this if not December. August is wide open this year and the back half of July really doesn't have much competition either other than Mission Impossible and even that won't be that big. Instead you made it really hard to build hype for a Star Wars movie people were skeptical of to begin with (who asked for a Han Solo backstory) that is being released not long after one of the most hyped movies ever in Infinity War and the week after a $125M opener, both of which had better reviews than Solo.
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27 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said:
Jurassic World was big EVERYWHERE because of nostalgia. Fallen Kingdom doesn't have that luxury.
And more importantly, Jurassic World had a great hook which is that we finally got to see the park open for business. Fallen Kingdom looks like just a Lost World reprise, just now with a weaponized dinosaur (so freaking stupid).
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1 minute ago, baumer said:
Before anyone freaks out over a 77% drop, this is normal, schools are in, work is in. This is obviously going to be a huge weekend film.
It is also basically the same Sunday to Monday drop as Black Panther had.
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11 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said:
I would argue they need to bring back Luke to keep Episode 9 flat from Episode 8.
I'd be shocked if he isn't in the movie. It may only be as a force ghost but I would bet on him playing a pretty big role in Episode 9.
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1 hour ago, Lordmandeep said:
Lol at the conservative prediction being 210+ or the third largest opener ever.
When you are releasing movies where only getting a $210M OW or $500M total (or in the case of TLJ $600M) would be considered disappointing, you are doing something right as a studio lol.
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13 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said:
I just realized I have only seen Disney Studio films in theatres in the past year
(GOTG2, Homecoming, Thor 3, TLJ, BP).
Homecoming is actually Sony even if Marvel did oversee that production.
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That is a terrific teaser trailer. The joke at the end is absolutely hysterical.
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42 minutes ago, Krissykins said:
Deadpool 2 is going to impact Avengers audience directly.
Black Panther is beating Avengers.
And the BP audience (the extra audience - not the usual MCU fans) might not necessarily turn up for IW just because BP is in it, look at WW/JL.
That is possible, but JL was a really bad movie that had terrible trailers and no hook that was the direct sequel to an unbelievably awful movie.
Infinity War has 10 years of hype and good movies driving it and the interest and awareness for the movie are off the charts.
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4 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said:
Awesome Sunday number. Going to be pretty funny if this outgrosses Infinity War, which looks much more likely now than we ever expected.
Yep, but whoever wins that battle, Disney wins. I don’t think they care about which of their $500M plus (maybe even $600M plus) grossers carries the day.
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8 minutes ago, Valonqar said:
You can troll to an extent but whether real ones are + or - determines the rest. TLJ was not only the troll work and BP will go up when more people see it and vote. It was trolled down to 6.7 on Internet Troll Database but went up to 7.6 when the real reviews started to pour in. Of course, trolltastic votes before the release will keep the score lower than it deserves but not as low as they hoped. same goes for Rotten Trolls Score - it's likely going to prevent a finish in high 80s but it won't stay in 70s because influx of positives will offset fake negatives.
Agreed. Last Jedi was decisive but it’s a good movie and there’s no doubt in my mind that the WOM was better than the RT score but a score in 60s or 70s would have happened (which isn’t great). Black Panther is absolutely fantastic and I’ve not heard anyone who has actually seen it who didn’t like it.
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So looking at the audience score on RT, all audience scores for major movies that have female leads or minority leads should basically be ignored going forward. Basically all negative or not want to see comments are racist or you can tell the person didn’t see the movie.
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10 minutes ago, Valonqar said:
Can someone explain to me why is Audience Score falling like a rock? It was 94% yesterday. 77% early this morning. 76% now.
Racist trolls
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Just did a pulse count and it was about 235 per minute.
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Those numbers for Jumanji and TLJ both seem low.
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13 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said:
Deadline says $550m by end of the year. Requires about $85m for the 3-day weekend. Probably will turn out bad just like their 88 prediction for 2nd weekend.
I was actually wondering if they really meant through the end of the 4 day weekend (which would obviously include January 1).
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6 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said:
TLJ took some huge risks.
IMO it took to many.
I can see people feeling this way. The people in this thread saying it took no risks are crazy though. And let's be clear while a lot of people didn't like how long the one subplot that even those that love the movie think went on too long, the story risks the movie took are why WOM is divisive. After the opening weekend I thought right around Avatar numbers was possible (didn't see it having legs much better than Rogue One with calendar and how big it opened even if it was universally liked but this is going to fall around $100M-$125M short of that. I'm sure Disney now wishes they had taken a super conservative approach with the VIII and IX and then done the risk taking in a spinoff trilogy. But with that said the movie is incredibly successful and I'm sure Abrams makes a crowd pleasing IX that will also be super successful. Only Star Wars could pull off a $600M plus disappointment lol.
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8 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:
Nah, PP2 was decently received. The two biggest problems here are that marketing gave absolutely no hook and reviews were dogshit, and audience WOM is reflecting that.
That movie looked like absolute trash from all the previews do not surprising. And I really like the first and enjoyed the second. Zero interest in this one.
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3 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said:
There hasn't been a good number for The Last Jedi ever since Sunday.
There is no doubt it will be a massive performance in the end but so was BvS to a lesser extent. Is there still anyone sane not saying this was a disaster seeing how it affected JL?
I am not saying this one is coming close to that disaster did but still, it is showing signs of mixed-to-bad WoM that can potentially affect future installements or at least burn a bit of the huge potential coming out of TFA.
It's Monday number was about the most normal Monday drop possible based on other movies in theaters now and past years with this calendar. Everything since then not good though.
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4 minutes ago, hw64 said:
And what are you basing these figures on?
Just looking at your Christmas Day figure alone brings up red flags. TFA's Christmas Day was only $49m, and TLJ is running further and further behind TFA each day.
His Sunday drop is way too low. That will be a 50%ish drop based on past Sunday's with a similar calendar.
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See unlike yesterday which was a perfectly fine number based on all other drops both this year and historically, this is not a good number. Today's number will be very interesting.
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8 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:
Oh so this is a global k-12 crisis, was TFA's 1st international monday on a holiday or something? I mean dropping from $42m (TFA Int 1st Mon) to $22m (TLJ Int 1st Mon) is pretty huge.
Is there a reason the biggest Avatar fans tend to be incredibly dense?
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13 minutes ago, hw64 said:
I'm using actual admission data - a lot of overseas markets track admissions. Again, using the example of the UK, Avatar's ticket prices were 4.6% above the yearly average for 2009, but ticket prices as a whole have increased so much that the average ticket price in 2017 is over 20% greater than Avatar's average anyway. The same is true (but not to such a great extent) of a lot of other overseas markets.
Average ticket price in 2009: £5.44
Average ticket price for Avatar: £5.69
Average ticket price in 2015: £7.21
Average ticket price for TFA: £7.25
Got it. That is what I was wondering about.
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
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Yeah, its presales being this low compared to say Deadpool is interesting. The first one was a walk-up monster but I'm with you that it feels like a sequel to a $650M movie should have much bigger pre-sales than this and I'd be shocked if walk-ups are nearly as high unless reviews are absolutely stellar given that there isn't close to the same hook for this one as there was for JW which did a brilliant job marketing the park is open concept.