MovieMan89

I said held up with a LOT of people, not just you. I love Avatar, but I can admit that it hasn't held up well with a lot of people. I don't get it personally, but it hasn't. I don't think Titanic has either.

Bummer. I think Minions needs at least 2m more than that for Sat to take down Shrek 3.

Sorry, but that kind of Titanic adoration has always made me a bit queasy. It's just not that good, imo. But obviously people were into it at the time, no doubt. Still not convinced it has held up especially well with a lot of people, but of course I have no way to definitively prove that. I guess the re-release's rather tame run is the best evidence I have.

I can't remember anything about Shrek 4 and it's the one I saw the most recently. Shrek 3 stands out more just because it was so awful.

Haven't seen them in a long time either (and I never will willingly see 3 again), but the first is one of those permanently ingrained in my memory movies. Saw it way too many times back in the day.

The Hurt Locker has probably ended up one of the more viewed modern BP winners in spite of being the lowest grossing ever. Sure it's mainly due to its huge illegal downloading/streaming rate, but plenty have seen it now despite the theatrical run. Pitch Perfect was a huge post-theater movie, as evidenced by the massive sequel increase at the BO. Hits after the theater can still happen I think.

I actually recall Shrek 1 having a lot bigger pop culture impact than Shrek 2, ironically enough. I remember friends quoting that movie incessantly for awhile. Though admittedly that may have something to do with me being 11 when Shrek came out and a teenager when Shrek 2 did.

1994 just happened to have two additions to the 75m first run admissions club. But that's a very elusive club. So much so that even the monster hit Shrek 2 likely isn't a member. So yeah, TLK was massive. I was 4 during its run, so not like I can really objectively recall just how big it was then, suffice it to say I know there was TLK merch everywhere and that it was a pop culture phenomenon like Frozen was. That much I do remember. Shrek 2 was huge, but in a lot of ways its success kind of stayed at the box office. I don't recall abundant toys, tie ins, and everyday pop culture infiltration at the time.

Yeah, truly nothing has touched Shrek 2's admissions in animation since. Frozen didn't even get 60% the admissions of Shrek 2 for example.

No, that would be The Lion King. TLK's first run outsold S2's first run by 4-5m admissions. Around 75m for TLK and 70m for S2.

Looking over SOTM6 answers, I believe out of all of the people who went for 4-5 ED is the only one still with a shot for points.

Agreed on all fronts. I think JW is going to finish within like 5m of Titanic, whether it be over or under. IO's hold is amazing considering it's playing against the potential all time animated OW movie this weekend. It truly is having fantastic WOM that even I underestimated. I guess some of those 350 predictions are a possibility after all.

You never outgrow good storytelling, of which animation is rife with.

I'm not ruling out MI5 either at this rate. GP was a pretty big OS hit 4 years ago and look where the market is now. A DOM increase for it seems highly likely too.

Minions gonna make yet another 2015 alteration to the all time WW records. At the rate this year is going, only Titanic and Avatar will survive the all time WW top ten.

Lol at MM and TG being neck and neck for the weekend now despite MM opening to 15m less last weekend. Guess we judged MM's endurance prematurely. Come to think of it, MM even has a chance to stay flat from last weekend with that Fri.

My bad, was giving it a 130m OW instead of more like a 120m one. Even still, 3x isn't that tough for animated movies. Unless they're poorly received (like Shrek 3), 3x is usually a given.

Minions will need horrid WOM for that. A 2.8x multi for animation would be awful.

Doubt that. Big franchises that build up usually peak for OW on the third installment. DM3 is essentially the fourth in this case. Minions should definitely be the franchise peak.

Yeah, at the least it should be just the fourth animated film to open to 100m. That's obviously still impressive.

I'm glad I kept my BSG prediction for Minions at 308 after all. Here I was worried these past few weeks I would be like 100m too low.

IO could drop 60% this weekend if it's on the low end of that range. Will probably end around 325. Could be very close between it and Minions if Minions has mediocre WOM.

Who said anything about Minions OW being bad? Just a bit surprising it couldn't break the record given this level of marketing, hype, and the status of the box office this summer. It's basically doing what DM2 would have done with a Friday opening though, so it's still a fantastic retention.

It was reasonable to expect it to have the best shot at the animated record in a long time. As evidenced by the fact that it still might claim the 2nd best OW.

41m puts second biggest animated opener in play. Can kiss the record goodbye though. Can't believe that POS Shrek 3 still has it.