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Er ALIEN's $78mil in 1979. and ALIENS $85MIL in 1986 were both huge films for the time, especially for r rated films. In fact both films were the 5th biggest films of their year domestic. Prometheus was the 20th biggest fiilm of 2012 domestic. It was ALIEN 3 where the films started dropping, although even ALIEN 3's $59mil domestic was still decent for 1992.

'No one cares about AVATARTM'. except on forums like this where poeple never shut up about it. I thought this kind of talk ended after A2 grossed 2.3bil, and would possibly of hit 3bil with a Russia gross, and a none covid infested China. At least it did for a while. If no one cared about it, it wouldnt of made what it did, or likewise big budget effects films would be hitting similar grosses all the time. Except they dont. In fact since A2 released we have had big budget flop after big budget flop, and for me it just elevates A2's gross even more that it could gross what it did in the current climate of big budget films flopping left and right. Now get the excuses ready for A3 when it also grosses 2bil, you have time to get your 'facts' in order.

Sucks for Aquaman as i liked the first film, but like i said many times on here, the film is a part of a dead universe that everyone already knows is getting rebooted. I mean i have no desire to see the film because of that, and i liked the first film!. No idea why WB announced the reboot so early when they knew they still had multiple films coming for the defunkt universe, films that all pretty much flopped because of it.

Did this flop in Japan?. I saw on Mojo its made 25mil in a month but i always thought Godzilla films were like massive cultural films in Japan.

I think with E3 being terrible, and the 9 year gap, movie fans have just moved on from this, even fans of Stallone and the other acotrs. I mean the films thread on here has 2 pages and the film is out lol. Besides the film calling itself 'EXPEND4BLES' deserves to flop. Also this supposedly has a 100mil buget, even though the cast seems quite trimmed compared to the past films in terms of big names, and the effects apparently look terrible. What the hell do film makers do with budgets these days?

Well i think its a different situation than it was with A2, with A3 already shot long ago, and rough cuts of the film already made. Unless Weta are way behind schedule for whatever reason, i just cant see how they cant hit their 2025 release.

Well the film is already shot, with rough cuts already made. I cant see why it cant come 2025, especially as it was supposed to be coming 2024 until Disney shifted all their future releases around.

Can see this doing just as bad as the other recent DC movies, maybe slightly better with how big the first film was. The problem is that it suffers the same stigma as the other recent DC movies, and that is that its 'pointless' Everyone knows the DCU is being rebooted, and this film is a part of a dead universe. It would be like those Apple fanboys who buy all the latest Apple tech, going and buying a I-Phone 5 or something. Imo WB announcing so early that they are rebooting the DCU has cost them probably 100's of millions, maybe even a bill+ when taking into account just how many DCU films they have released since announcing the reboot. You would think they would of known better to be honest.

Out of Time is actually a hugely underrated thriller, seen it many times. Man on Fire is just brutal in a good way.

Yeah i dont really care about ticket sales, especially for the US as its all guestimates anyway but i agree that A1 def soild more tickets than Avengers and JW. Both those films came years later, had 3D (although a lower percentage than A1's 70%), and are 100-150mil behind A1 in gross, more if you include A1's total gross. TDK is a lot hardrer to say as they relesased at a similar time, with TDK having no 3D, but grossing 217-250mil less than A1 depending on orig gross or total gross. Its def a coin toss between TDK and A1. Worldwide its not evena contest, A1 destroys them all.

A lot of the positive reviews, and some of the negative reviews actually, say the film is better then the orig film. For whatever reason reviwers were harsher with the film. Some think becuase of Camerons comments about Marvel before release.

For all the doom and gloom over Meg 2 before release, its going to gross 400mil WW, AND beat Indy. Could you imagine even suggesting that 3 months ago.🤣

Yeah i'd say its def possible. I dont think it will beat the next one on the list, The Lion King with 1.66bil though.

It looks like Barbie has a real shot at hitting 1.5bil WW, and passing TGM. I couldnt see this coming at all.

Saturday 10-11mil, Sunday 7-8mil. Seems possible to me.

Yep it is, and its also sad how often that happens with a movie series. But yeah Dominion is just a genuine bad film. I mean i like bad films, sometimes lol, and its rare for me to call a film outright bad. So if you really hated Fallen Kingdom, god knows what you would think of Dominion!.

I agree JP3 is underrated by far. I really think people didnt give it a real chance with it being the first one without Spielberg. In fact i think the order of releases is how i view them quality wise - Jurassic Park The Lost World Jurassic Park 3 Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom Dominion.

I honestly thought the first film was a pretty good superhero film, and waaay underrated. Problem is this film has the same problem The Flash, and others have had, that its part of a universe that has already been cancelled and about to be rebooted. I think it will make more than The Flash, but its still going gross low and be miles away from the first movie.

Well you said the end of the 4th week, which i assumed you meant the end of the 4th weekend (and your numbers still dont hit the 90mil or so it would need for 550mil). And IMO its not beating JW's 653mil.

How is it going to be at 550mil after the end of the 4th week?. That would mean 90mil next week, so like 15mil weekdays and 30mil weekend. It might get the 30mil weekend but 60mil; weekdays??, no chance.

TLM?. And yeah i do think it will hit 600mil, but even that isnt 'locked'. If it keeps the holds its been having for the rest of its run then 140mil needed from a 50 soemthing weekend is certainly more likely than not, but still not locked. Again like i said on one of the previous pages, many on here were convinced 600mil was locked for Mario too.

650mil for Barbie is far from locked. Its going to need like 190mil off a 50 something weekend, with 450mil of demand already eaten up.

Fallen Kingdom is like a masterpiece compared to Dominion.

People on here always call films flops if they dont meet certain standards. I dont think they always mean financial flops though.More underperforming = flop to some poeple. I mean we often get sequels to films that DO look like they have flopped financailly, so i think more goes on behind the scenes with these films that people on here know about.

A lot of people on here thought Mario was locked for 600mil too.