April 2018 | Investments & Monthly Thread | And so everything is now available (unless its gone of course ;P )

[JJ-8]

April 2018 - FBO Thread

 

This is the thread where you invest in the films that are released during April 2018.

 

Current Movie List

 

Budgets are as per sources noted or estimated based on historical information.  I will update as better information comes to hand.

Release Schedule
Red Highlight is fully invested and no longer available unless a player decides to sell part of or all their portion.
Available for Investment				Budget Source / Comments
April 2018
Friday
6
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
Blockers	$15m	100%	Wide	75% Budget, 100% available
Chappaquidick	$15m	100%	Wide	75% Budget, 100% available
The Miracle Season	$15m	100%	Wide	75% Budget, 100% available
A Quiet Place	$15m	0%	Wide
Friday
13
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
Sgt. Stubby: An American Hero	$25m	200%	Wide
Truth or Dare	$15m	200%	Wide
Rampage	$80m	140%	Wide
Friday
20
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
Super Troopers 2	$15m	200%	Wide
I Feel Pretty	$30m	150%	Wide
Traffik	$15m	200%	Wide
Friday
27
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
Avengers: Infinity War	$400m	140%	Wide

[JJ-8]

reposted

Release Schedule
Red Highlight is fully invested and no longer available unless a player decides to sell part of or all their portion.
Films not Available until 1 month from Release				Budget Source / Comments
April 2018
Friday
6
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
Blockers	$20m	200%	Wide
Chappaquidick	$20m	200%	Wide
A Quiet Place	$15m	200%	Wide
Friday
13
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
The Miracle Season	$20m	200%	Wide
Overboard (2018)	$40m	200%	Wide
Sgt. Stubby: An American Hero	$25m	200%	Wide
Truth or Dare	$15m	200%	Wide
Friday
20
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
Rampage	$80m	200%	Wide
Super Troopers 2	$15m	200%	Wide
Tully (2018)	$20m	200%	Wide
Friday
27
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
Bad Samaritan	$15m	200%	Wide
I Feel Pretty	$30m	200%	Wide
Traffik	$15m	200%	Wide
Untitled Animated Entertainment Studios	$0m	0%	Wide	Not available until film is named

[Simionski]

A Quiet Place - 100%

[grey ghost]

Rampage - 10%

[JJ-8]

Movie Investments - 2018
Investor	Classification / Time	% invested	$ Spent	$ Earnt	% Gain
Blockers
Movie Budget: $20,000,000		% Available: 200%
Release Date: 6-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	0%	1
Chappaquidick
Movie Budget: $20,000,000		% Available: 200%
Release Date: 6-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	0%	1
A Quiet Place
Movie Budget: $15,000,000		% Available: 100%
Release Date: 6-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	100%	1
Simionski	06-Mar-18	100%	$15,000,000	$0	-100.0%
The Miracle Season
Movie Budget: $20,000,000		% Available: 200%
Release Date: 6-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	0%	1
Sgt. Stubby: An American Hero
Movie Budget: $25,000,000		% Available: 200%
Release Date: 13-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	0%	1
Truth or Dare
Movie Budget: $15,000,000		% Available: 200%
Release Date: 13-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	0%	1
Rampage
Movie Budget: $80,000,000		% Available: 190%
Release Date: 13-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	10%	1
Grey Ghost	13-Mar-18	10%	$8,000,000	$0	-100.0%

[JJ-8]

Release Schedule
Red Highlight is fully invested and no longer available unless a player decides to sell part of or all their portion.
Available for Investment				Budget Source / Comments
March 2018
Friday
6
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
Blockers	$20m	200%	Wide
Chappaquidick	$20m	200%	Wide
The Miracle Season	$20m	200%	Wide
A Quiet Place	$15m	100%	Wide
Friday
13
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
Sgt. Stubby: An American Hero	$25m	200%	Wide
Truth or Dare	$15m	200%	Wide
Rampage	$80m	190%	Wide
Films not Available until 1 month from Release				Budget Source / Comments
April 2018
Friday
20
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
Super Troopers 2	$15m	200%	Wide
I Feel Pretty	$30m	200%	Wide
Traffik	$15m	200%	Wide
Friday
27
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
Avengers: Infinity War	$400m	200%	Wide

[grey ghost]

Avengers Infinity War - 10%

[JJ-8]

Right some investments....

 

A Quiet Place - 100%

Rampage - 50%

I feel pretty - 50%

Avengers Infinity War - 50%

[JJ-8]

Movie Investments - 2018
Investor	Classification / Time	% invested	$ Spent	$ Earnt	% Gain
Blockers
Movie Budget: $15,000,000		% Available: 100%
Release Date: 6-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	0%	1
Chappaquidick
Movie Budget: $15,000,000		% Available: 100%
Release Date: 6-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	0%	1
A Quiet Place
Movie Budget: $15,000,000		% Available: 0%
Release Date: 6-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	200%	1
Jajang	28-Mar-18	100%	$15,000,000	$0	-100.0%
Simionski	06-Mar-18	100%	$15,000,000	$0	-100.0%
The Miracle Season
Movie Budget: $15,000,000		% Available: 100%
Release Date: 6-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	0%	1
Sgt. Stubby: An American Hero
Movie Budget: $25,000,000		% Available: 200%
Release Date: 13-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	0%	1
Truth or Dare
Movie Budget: $15,000,000		% Available: 200%
Release Date: 13-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	0%	1
Rampage
Movie Budget: $80,000,000		% Available: 140%
Release Date: 13-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	60%	1
Jajang	28-Mar-18	50%	$40,000,000	$0	-100.0%
Grey Ghost	13-Mar-18	10%	$8,000,000	$0	-100.0%
Super Troopers 2
Movie Budget: $15,000,000		% Available: 200%
Release Date: 20-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	0%	1
I Feel Pretty
Movie Budget: $30,000,000		% Available: 150%
Release Date: 20-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	50%	1
Jajang	28-Mar-18	50%	$15,000,000	$0	-100.0%
Traffik
Movie Budget: $15,000,000		% Available: 200%
Release Date: 20-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	0%	1
Avengers: Infinity War
Movie Budget: $400,000,000		% Available: 140%
Release Date: 27-Apr-2018	INVESTMENT	60%	1
Jajang	28-Mar-18	50%	$200,000,000	$0	-100.0%
Grey Ghost	27-Mar-18	10%	$40,000,000	$0	-100.0%

[JJ-8]

Release Schedule
Red Highlight is fully invested and no longer available unless a player decides to sell part of or all their portion.
Available for Investment				Budget Source / Comments
April 2018
Friday
6
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
Blockers	$15m	100%	Wide	75% Budget, 100% available
Chappaquidick	$15m	100%	Wide	75% Budget, 100% available
The Miracle Season	$15m	100%	Wide	75% Budget, 100% available
A Quiet Place	$15m	0%	Wide
Friday
13
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
Sgt. Stubby: An American Hero	$25m	200%	Wide
Truth or Dare	$15m	200%	Wide
Rampage	$80m	140%	Wide
Friday
20
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
Super Troopers 2	$15m	200%	Wide
I Feel Pretty	$30m	150%	Wide
Traffik	$15m	200%	Wide
Friday
27
New in Theatres	Budget	%Avail	Theatres
Avengers: Infinity War	$400m	140%	Wide

[grey ghost]

On 3/26/2018 at 11:10 PM, grey ghost said:

Avengers Infinity War - 10%

I'm adding 80%.

 

So I should end up with 90% total for Infinity War.

[Simionski]

Blockers - 75% (Should be 50% of budget now if I'm not mistaken)

Avengers - 60%

[JJ-8]

@Simionski

@grey ghost

 

Hey guys, was wondering whats your opinion on this game ... is too complicated ?  we are now the only 3 players still playing.  @chasmmi hasn't made an investment since December and he is the only other player outside of us 3 who is still earning anything on a weekly basis.

 

I like the game generally but maybe it's too simple or too complicated ?  Should look at a cutover and convert the game into something simpler to try get interest going again.... I think it's too easy to earn $ at the moment way to easy!

 

Maybe go down the following path :

 

1. Movies are available 1 month out still.

2. 100% max investment  (lets return to simplicity... ie. not 2 copies available any more)

3. invest in  lots of 10% only

3. Return to the best in best dressed (no more of the calculated stuff I've been using lately) scenario

4. pick particular films which are big blockbusters (we will identify in advance) and put a max of 50% investment in said films.

.. I do like the budget rule however and it's almost like whoever shot the film, is trying to sell so they are discounting the film to get an investment in it.  I'd propose to simplify to 1 week ahead of release if the film has no investment it drops to 50% of the proposed budget.

 

If we restart midyear to try and reingivigourate the game... we all start with 50m (yes  I know this makes it hard to invest but the  current game is dieing......

 

OR 

 

Leave things as they are and hope we get some more interest in the game ?  As you are the only players I thought it best to ask... at the moment the way things are, we all get a piece of the pie right  now as there are so few of us making the game a little well boring at times.

[JJ-8]

I'm willing to put a more general post up in the main forum (in the thread we have running there) to this effect if the 3 of us agree on a change.. or should I just hold it together to year end ?

 

 

[grey ghost]

1) I think the game is pretty great.

 

2) I'm unsure how your suggestions make the game more fun.

 

3) You definitely need to ask people who were loyal players but quit the game for whatever reason. For example, I remember CJohn was pissed about a new rule from early last year. I suggest via PM.

 

4) My suggestion is to increase the amount of money everyone has. Maybe 200 m to start. Also, increase the amount of people can invest 100%. So maybe offer 400% for each movie. (These give players more freedom and makes the game easier in the beginning). And get rid of loopholes that can give people a huge advantage. For example, the budget should drop for RPO but dropping 50% and allowing only one person to invest 100% is a frustrating and has too much impact on the game.

 

While my suggestions seem like a free for all, people still have be very selective regarding what they invest in because of the 300% investment limit. This is the most important limitation and why people need to be strategic.

 

If you agree with my suggestions, ask past players if they do also and ask them why they quit.

 

Anyway I think the game is great and is run efficiently. I fully support your efforts to increase the mass appeal and make the game even more fun.

 

Edited April 14, 2018 by grey ghost

[Simionski]

I agree with @grey ghost on almost all points except the budget drops.

 

I think that the current setup is great and allows for good strategies. Maybe just restrict the maximum investment one can make proportionally with the budget cuts. When the budget is 75% one person can take a maximum of 75%, and when he budget is 50% he/she can take a maximum of 50%.

 

I believe the game is great with its current setup maybe slight tweeks can be made. Perhaps it could be better advertised like the Derby for a month to get some players on board? 

 

Also to say again that I really appreciate what you are doing for the game @JJ-8 so big thanks for all of your hard work. 

Edited April 14, 2018 by Simionski

[grey ghost]

6 minutes ago, Simionski said:

I agree with @grey ghost on almost all points except the budget drops.

 

I think that the current setup is great and allows for good strategies. Maybe just restrict the maximum investment one can make proportionally with the budget cuts. When the budget is 75% one person can take a maximum of 75%, and when he budget is 50% he/she can take a maximum of 50%.

 

I believe the game is great with its current setup maybe slight tweeks can be made. Perhaps it could be better advertised like the Derby for a month to get some players on board? 

 

Also to say again that I really appreciate what you are doing for the game @JJ-8 so big thanks for all of your hard work. 

I'm think your budget drop suggestions are fair (50% drop means only a 50% max investment available).

[chasmmi]

Sorry, I'm still getting my time together so was late to reply here. 

 

The biggest problem I think this game has is being a year long. (people drop out of / avoid Summer/Winter game because it is too long and that is only 19 weeks). 

If you have a February/March that I had where forum access just was not a thing I really had, you basically are out of the game and there is no way to really come back in, in a competitive way until the following year. 

 

I wish I had a suggested fix for this to offer too   Maybe two seasons a year with a break between each season? 

[JJ-8]

Ok here is a new set of proposed rules :-

 

@chasmmi @grey ghost @Simionski

 

 

Game is reset (I don't quite see the point in continuing right now, as Chas pointed out, it's too hard to enter mid year)  ~ Still deciding which weekend the reset happens on

 

(I'll still count out what has happened this year but end the game as it stands based on our current investments up to and including the last few investments.)

(I'm thinking the new game will start the weekend post Memorial weekend but still playing around in my head)

 

Proposed set of rules

1. Everyone starts with 250m in the bank
2. There is only 100% available per film.  
3. Max investment per player is 70%.
   1. 2 Weeks prior to release  and no investment has been made, this is reduced to 50% max
   2. 1 week prior to release and no investment has been made, this is reduced to 30% max
   3. 1 day prior to release and no investment has been made, this is put  to 100% max
   4. If "1 Player" has invested inside 2 weeks from investment (under the  above rules), then  that player (and  only that player) may choose to invest too 100% now.  If someone does invest then this rule DOES NOT apply.
4. BUDGET updates as follows:
   1. 4 weeks (first available) = 100% of game budget
   2. 2 weeks prior to release and no investment made Game budget = 75% of game budget
   3. 1 week prior to release and no investment made Game budget = 50% of original game budget
5. Best in Best dressed, no more auctions or splitting the  film up.. you get what you purchase assuming its available.
6. 300% rules remains as is.  wide releases are what matters

Any other ideas ?

[grey ghost]

I think right before November is a good time to start the game.

 

It gives time to build up anticipation for one of the peak movie seasons and a reboot of the game.

 

What do you think?