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  1. Release Calendar Update :- Hmmmm. you really have to wonder what Warners were hoping for here because i think a lot on here really are not surprised by Tenets results. Anyway nothing good has come out of it accept to prove that we are not ready for cinemas to reopen fully as yet. If there forecasts come true for COVID through november / december, I don't see cinemas openeing before March next year and to be honest, this could last all the way into summer the way things are panning out. Ok onto release dates and it's a see of movement to the right. It's a brave studio who holds their film on the current release date - especially for blockbusters. tbh - i'm surprised none of the films on the 9th October have come forward a week given the gap in the program we have now. Though it's probably not going to matter here given the totals most films are making. Upcoming Releases - Changes due to COVID ** Changes in bold Released 08-14-2020 - Unhinged (Solstice) Released 08-21-2020 - Words on Bathroom Walls (Roadside) Released 08-28-2020 - The New Mutants (Fox) Released 08-28-2020 - The Personal History of David Copperfield (Fox Searthlight) Released 08-28-2020 (PVOD day and date)* - Bill & Ted Face the Music (United Artists) Released 09-03-2020 - Tenet (Warner Bros) Released 09-04-2020 Disney+ Premium - Mulan (Disney) Released 09-11-2020 - The Broken Hearts Gallery (Sony) Released 09-18-2020 - Infidel Released 09-18-2020 *PVOD* - Antebellum (Lionsgate) Released 09-25-2020 Select Cinemas / October 16, 2020 *Netflix* - The Trial of Chicago 7 (Paramount) October 9, 2020 - Aggie (Strand) October 9, 2020 - The War with Grandpa (101) October 9, 2020 - Honest Thief October 9, 2020 *PVOD* - Trump Card (Cloudburst) October 16, 2020 - 2 Hearts (Freestyle) October 23, 2020 - Untitled Universal Event Comedy (Universal) - is this film real? Anyone know which film is this a placeholder for? October 23, 2020 - The Empty Man (Fox) October 30, 2020 - Fatale (Lionsgate) November 6, 2020 - Let him go (Focus) November 13, 2020 - Untitled Universal Event Film IV (2020) (Universal) November 13, 2020 - The Comeback Trail (Cloudburst) November 20, 2020 - No Time to Die (MGM) - Suprised this still remains on the calendar for 2020. how longer before this moves.... no way the studio risks this in this environment (then again i'm surprised the risk WB took and well we all know how that turned out) November 20, 2020 - Untitled Amblin Project (Universal) November 20, 2020 - Soul (Disney) - holding steady for now.... the question now (no matter what disney is saying here) PVOD day and date or delay...... November 25, 2020 - Voyagers (Lionsgate) November 25, 2020 - Happiest Season (Tristar) November 25, 2020 - The Croods: A New Age (Universal) - nice one uni, second guessing disney's move on Soul and then disney doesn't shift it...... December 11, 2020 - Samaritan (United Artists) December 11, 2020 - Free Guy (Fox) December 18, 2020 - Coming 2 America (Paramount) December 18, 2020 - Dune (Warner Bros) December 18, 2020 - Death on the Nile (Fox) December 25, 2020 - News of the World (Universal) December 25, 2020 - Wonder Woman 1984 (Warner Bros) TBA 2020 - Saint Maud (A24) TBA 2020 - Stillwater (Focus) TBA 2020 - Connected (Sony) - BOM still has this listed on the 23rd October, however i've seen other reports it's now undated in 2020. TBA 2020 - Greenland (STX) Other Changes beyond 2020 (or moving from 2020 to 2021) Escape Room 2 (Sony) - April 17, 2020 -> January 1, 2021 Respect - December 25, 2020 -> January 15, 2021 The Spongebob Movie: Sponge on the Run - United States - PVOD early 2021 / Already in release in Canada The King's Man (Fox) - September 18, 2020 -> February 12, 2021 A Quiet Place Part II (Paramount) - September 4, 2020 -> April 23, 2021 Monster Hunter (Screen Gems) - September 4, 2020 -> April 23, 2021 Black Widow (Disney) - May 2020 -> May 7, 2021 The Conjuring: The Devel made me do it (Warner Bros) - September 11, 2020 -> June 4, 2021 Top Gun: Maverick - December 23, 2020 -> July 2, 2021 The Forever Purge - Removed -> July 9, 2021 Deep Water (Fox) - November 13, 2020 -> August 13, 2021 The Last Duel - December 25, 2020 -> October 15, 2021 Halloween Kills (Universal) - October 16, 2020 -> October 15, 2021 Snake Eyes: GI Joe Origins (Paramount) - October 23, 2020 -> October 22, 2021 Clifford and Big Red Dog (Paramount) - November 13, 2020 -> November 5, 2021 The Eternals (Disney) - November 2020 -> November 5, 2021 West Side Story (Fox) - December 2020 -> December 10, 2021 Candyman (Universal) - October 16, 2020 -> TBC 2021 Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (Disney) - February 2021 -> May 7, 2022 Halloween Ends (Universal) - October 15, 2021 -> October 14, 2022 All Avatar Sequels - Delayed by 1 year starting in December 2022 All Star Wars Films - Delayed by 1 year starting in December 2023
  2. We are all talking Disney here but I’m wondering how long before bond moves again. It’s now essentially the next live action blockbuster on the calendar now. I’ll do a full update tonight (my time) with all the changes
  3. Reading that arcticle, does Deadline know something we don't about Black Widow...... I'm reading this as Black Widow is already moving out of it's november date ? or this deadline being deadline as usual and jumping the gun!
  4. So 5.9m (2+2.9)with Sunday to come. Mmmmm so under 7.5-8.5m weekend based on this. Running total very close to 30m.
  5. I'm not surprised on this. It doesn't stop the box office discussion but does dampen the weekend numbers till sunday but these are unsual times. I don't doubt if Tenet was better than expected that WB would have been more forthcoming....... As for sony Until November the only other film i can see they are releasing is "Connected" (Animated film). So they are probably only playing the game here because of WB doing it with Tenet. The obvious red flag already is WB delaying WW also meaning they feel the market isn't ready (I release they are probably trying to spin it as Tenet needs more room to breath, but the reality is, opening WW in this environment is suicide for a film of this size. I'm starting to agree with most on here that releasing a major tentpole before end of the year is unrealistic if you want to actually recoup your losses. I think the most sound approach is to use small and mid tier releases so you can limit your losses and slowly bring the BO up to a level that will allow those bigger releases to work again (to be realistic, i think we have a long long time ahead of us before we even see a 30m+ OW. (I could see 20m happening in this environment if LA / NY reopened. but i feel that is probably the limit.) ^ in regards to the november releases, unless something dramatically changes, I don't see even half of those films staying put - espectially Black Widow, No time to die and Soul. I feel like 1 release every 2 weeks at the moment with probably 1 blockbuster about every 2 months is all that is going to work and even then losses will build.
  6. ok so previous weekend and weekly updates.... So from the previous week we had a 34% decline from the opening weekend. given that was likely muted slightly from the previews, i'm not seeing this as a great hold in this enviroment - the belief that while the OW was lower due to COVID impacts (no victoria currently, and limitations on capaciity) , while it's broughts the amounts down, i guess the hope here was it the film would hold better and longer - that hold isn't much better than normal for films like this here. Anyway, Bill & Ted Face the music opened on Thursday (and no we don't have the streaming option here) so will be interesting how this all plays out.
  7. Release Calendar Update :- So righto, Tenet opened and sadly it seams it's results are not enough for studios to hold their nerve. So we move on (I'm keeping the releases which are released on the list and historical) Upcoming Releases - Changes due to COVID ** Changes in bold Released 08-14-2020 - Unhinged (Solstice) Released 08-21-2020 - Words on Bathroom Walls (Roadside) Released 08-28-2020 - The New Mutants (Fox) Released 08-28-2020 - The Personal History of David Copperfield (Fox Searthlight) Released 08-28-2020 (PVOD day and date)* - Bill & Ted Face the Music (United Artists) Released 09-03-2020 - Tenet (Warner Bros) Released 09-04-2020 Disney+ Premium - Mulan (Disney) September 11, 2020 - The Broken Hearts Gallery (Sony) September 18, 2020 - Infidel September 18, 2020 *PVOD* - Antebellum (Lionsgate) September 25, 2020 - Greenland (STX) October 9, 2020 - Aggie (Strand) October 9, 2020 - The War with Grandpa (101) October 9, 2020 - Honest Thief October 9, 2020 *PVOD* - Trump Card (Cloudburst) October 16, 2020 - 2 Hearts (Freestyle) October 16, 2020 *Netflix* - The Trial of Chicago 7 (Paramount) October 23, 2020 - Death on the Nile (Fox) October 23, 2020 - Connected (Sony) October 23, 2020 - Untitled Universal Event Comedy (Universal) - is this film real? Anyone know which film is this a placeholder for? October 30, 2020 - Fatale (Lionsgate) November 6, 2020 - Let him go (Focus) November 6, 2020 - Black Widow (Disney) - How long before Disney shifts this out to 2021 ? November 13, 2020 - Untitled Universal Event Film IV (2020) (Universal) November 13, 2020 - The Comeback Trail (Cloudburst) November 13, 2020 - Deep Water (Fox) November 20, 2020 - No Time to Die (MGM) - Can't be long before Bond moves to 2021 now November 20, 2020 - Untitled Amblin Project (Universal) November 20, 2020 - Soul (Disney) - I'd say rumours will persist with this going down the Disney+ Premium i'd say November 25, 2020 - Voyagers (Lionsgate) November 25, 2020 - Happiest Season (Tristar) December 4, 2020 - The Empty Man (Fox) December 11, 2020 - Samaritan (United Artists) December 11, 2020 - Free Guy (Fox) December 18, 2020 - West Side Story (Fox) December 18, 2020 - Coming 2 America (Paramount) December 18, 2020 - Dune (Warner Bros) December 23, 2020 - The Croods: A New Age (Universal) December 25, 2020 - News of the World (Universal) December 25, 2020 - Wonder Woman 1984 (Warner Bros) TBA 2020 - Saint Maud (A24) TBA 2020 - Stillwater (Focus) Other Changes beyond 2020 (or moving from 2020 to 2021) Escape Room 2 (Sony) - April 17, 2020 -> January 1, 2021 Respect - December 25, 2020 -> January 15, 2021 The Spongebob Movie: Sponge on the Run - United States - PVOD early 2021 / Already in release in Canada The King's Man (Fox) - September 18, 2020 -> February 26, 2021 A Quiet Place Part II (Paramount) - September 4, 2020 -> April 23, 2021 Monster Hunter (Screen Gems) - September 4, 2020 -> April 23, 2021 The Conjuring: The Devel made me do it (Warner Bros) - September 11, 2020 -> June 4, 2021 Top Gun: Maverick - December 23, 2020 -> July 2, 2021 The Forever Purge - Removed -> July 9, 2021 The Last Duel - December 25, 2020 -> October 15, 2021 Halloween Kills (Universal) - October 16, 2020 -> October 15, 2021 Snake Eyes: GI Joe Origins (Paramount) - October 23, 2020 -> October 22, 2021 Clifford and Big Red Dog (Paramount) - November 13, 2020 -> November 5, 2021 Candyman (Universal) - October 16, 2020 -> TBC 2021 Halloween Ends (Universal) - October 15, 2021 -> October 14, 2022 All Avatar Sequels - Delayed by 1 year starting in December 2022 All Star Wars Films - Delayed by 1 year starting in December 2023
  8. The question is what performance for tenet gives studios hope and what mean it’s all delaying again. Would a 10m weekend even be enough. for comparison in Australia we / total (at end of the weekend) 1: 2.5m / 3.97m 2: 1.6m / 6.26m if we equate the 3.97m Weekend to the 20m (both had previews) you get a 8m which appears in line with most predictions. I am doubting this will be enough for studios to hold their release dates. Really need 12m+ For even a thought. maybe go with 1 blockbuster per 2 months ?
  9. 2.5m start is pretty good given this is without Victoria (20-25% of the market) and capacity is limited to 50% in most of the country. in normal times I feel like this would like a 8m ow. It’s all about legs from here...
  10. Release Calendar Update :- Well ok. we got there finally. At least next few releases are going to hold now i think. Broken Hearts Gallery is now dated, The kings man moved out to 2021 (free's up capacity for a long run for Tenet i think). Beyond September still probably up in the air but we shall see how it plays out. (don't see warners holding wonder woman on the 2nd October if Tenet doesn't perform as needed. As always if i've missed any changes, post in the thread and i'll update the post. In regards to Conjuring 3, i'm seeing mixed reports on it's release date. BOM is holding the release date at September 11, while others have it pushed back by 1 year ? Wide Releases (according to BOM) - next on calender ** Changes in bold Released - Unhinged (Solstice) Released - Words on Bathroom Walls (Roadside) August 28, 2020 - The New Mutants (Fox) August 28, 2020 - The Personal History of David Copperfield (Fox Searthlight) August 28, 2020 + PVOD day and date* - Bill & Ted Face the Music (United Artists) September 3, 2020 - Tenet (Warner Bros) September 4, 2020 - Honest Thief September 4, 2020 *Disney+ PVOD* - Mulan (Disney) September 11, 2020 - The Broken Hearts Gallery (Sony) September 18, 2020 - Infidel September 18, 2020 *PVOD* - Antebellum (Lionsgate) September 25, 2020 - Greenland (STX) October 2, 2020 - Wonder Woman 1984 (Warner Bros) October 9, 2020 - Aggie (Strand) October 9, 2020 - The War with Grandpa (101) October 9, 2020 *PVOD* - Trump Card (Cloudburst) October 16, 2020 - Candyman (Universal) October 16, 2020 - 2 Hearts (Freestyle) October 16, 2020 *Netflix* - The Trial of Chicago 7 (Paramount) October 23, 2020 - Snake Eyes: GI Joe Origins (Paramount) October 23, 2020 - Untitled Universal Event Comedy (Universal) October 23, 2020 - Untitled Lord and Miller Animation October 23, 2020 - Death on the Nile (Fox) October 30, 2020 - Fatale (Lionsgate) TBA 2020 - Saint Maud (A24) November 6, 2020 - Let him go (Focus) November 6, 2020 *limited* - Black Widow (Disney) November 13, 2020 - Untitled Universal Event Film IV (2020) (Universal) November 13, 2020 - The Comeback Trail (Cloudburst) November 13, 2020 - Clifford and Big Red Dog (Paramount) November 13, 2020 - Deep Water (Fox) November 20, 2020 - No Time to Die (MGM) November 20, 2020 - Untitled Amblin Project (Universal) November 20, 2020 - Soul (Disney) November 20, 2020 - Stillwater (Focus) November 25, 2020 - Voyagers (Lionsgate) November 25, 2020 - Happiest Season (Tristar) December 4, 2020 - The Empty Man (Fox) December 11, 2020 - Samaritan (United Artists) December 11, 2020 - Free Guy (Fox) December 18, 2020 - West Side Story (Fox) December 18, 2020 - Coming 2 America (Paramount) December 18, 2020 - Dune (Warner Bros) December 23, 2020 - The Croods: A New Age (Universal) December 25, 2020 - News of the World (Universal) December 30, 2020 - Escape Room 2 (Sony) Other Changes beyond 2020 (or moving from 2020 to 2021) Respect - December 25, 2020 -> January 15, 2021 [wide] The Spongebob Movie: Sponge on the Run - United States - PVOD early 2021 / Already in release in Canada The King's Man (Fox) - September 18, 2020 -> February 26, 2021 A Quiet Place Part II (Paramount) - September 4, 2020 -> April 23, 2021 Monster Hunter (Screen Gems) - September 4, 2020 -> April 23, 2021 The Conjuring: The Devel made me do it (Warner Bros) - September 11, 2020 -> June 4, 2021 [BOM is out of date on this one.. i have it already moved to June 2021] Top Gun: Maverick - December 23, 2020 -> July 2, 2021 The Forever Purge - Removed -> July 9, 2021 The Last Duel - December 25, 2020 -> October 15, 2021 Halloween Kills (Universal) - October 16, 2020 -> October 15, 2021 Halloween Ends (Universal) - October 15, 2021 -> October 14, 2022 All Avatar Sequels - Delayed by 1 year starting in December 2022 All Star Wars Films - Delayed by 1 year starting in December 2023
  11. Release Calendar Update :- Well it does appear that the release calendar is appearing to settle (as much as it can in these times).... updates below. Looks like Unhinged is holding to this friday and it appears there will be enough cinemas for it to be listed as "wide". Lets see how it plays out though... I am wondering what kind of performance would be enough to scare Warner Brothers to defer Tenet at this point or are they that locked in now ? I feel like Unhinged, The new mutants and bill and Ted are all going to happen... just not sure on the september release dates at the moment. As always if i've missed any changes, post in the thread and i'll update the post. In regards to Conjuring 3, i'm seeing mixed reports on it's release date. BOM is holding the release date at September 11, while others have it pushed back by 1 year ? Wide Releases (according to BOM) - next on calender ** Changes in bold August 21, 2020 - Unhinged (Solstice) August 21, 2020 - Words on Bathroom Walls (Roadside) August 28, 2020 *limited* - The New Mutants (Fox) August 28, 2020 *limited* - The Personal History of David Copperfield (Fox Searthlight) August 28, 2020 *limited + PVOD day and date* - Bill & Ted Face the Music (United Artists) September 3, 2020 *limited* - Tenet (Warner Bros) September 4, 2020 - Honest Thief September 4, 2020 *Disney+ PVOD* - Mulan (Disney) September 18, 2020 - Infidel September 18, 2020 - The King's Man (Fox) September 18, 2020 *PVOD* - Antebellum (Lionsgate) September 25, 2020 - Greenland (STX) September TBC, 2020 *PVOD* - Trump Card (Cloudburst) October 2, 2020 - Wonder Woman 1984 (Warner Bros) October 9, 2020 - Aggie (Strand) October 9, 2020 - The War with Grandpa (101) October 16, 2020 - Candyman (Universal) October 16, 2020 - 2 Hearts (Freestyle) October 16, 2020 *Netflix* - The Trial of Chicago 7 (Paramount) October 23, 2020 - Snake Eyes: GI Joe Origins (Paramount) October 23, 2020 - Untitled Universal Event Comedy (Universal) October 23, 2020 - Untitled Lord and Miller Animation October 23, 2020 - Death on the Nile (Fox) October 30, 2020 - Fatale (Lionsgate) TBA 2020 - Saint Maud (A24) TBA 2020 - The Broken Hearts Gallery (Sony) November 6, 2020 - Let him go (Focus) November 6, 2020 *limited* - Black Widow (Disney) November 13, 2020 - Untitled Universal Event Film IV (2020) (Universal) November 13, 2020 - The Comeback Trail (Cloudburst) November 13, 2020 - Clifford and Big Red Dog (Paramount) November 13, 2020 - Deep Water (Fox) November 20, 2020 - No Time to Die (MGM) November 20, 2020 - Untitled Amblin Project (Universal) November 20, 2020 - Soul (Disney) November 20, 2020 - Stillwater (Focus) November 25, 2020 - Voyagers (Lionsgate) November 25, 2020 - Happiest Season (Tristar) December 4, 2020 - The Empty Man (Fox) December 11, 2020 - Samaritan (United Artists) December 11, 2020 - Free Guy (Fox) December 18, 2020 - West Side Story (Fox) December 18, 2020 - Coming 2 America (Paramount) December 18, 2020 - Dune (Warner Bros) December 23, 2020 - The Croods: A New Age (Universal) December 25, 2020 - News of the World (Universal) December 30, 2020 - Escape Room 2 (Sony) Other Changes beyond 2020 (or moving from 2020 to 2021) Respect - December 25, 2020 -> January 15, 2021 [wide] The Spongebob Movie: Sponge on the Run - United States - PVOD early 2021 / Already in release in Canada A Quiet Place Part II (Paramount) - September 4, 2020 -> April 23, 2021 Monster Hunter (Screen Gems) - September 4, 2020 -> April 23, 2021 The Conjuring: The Devel made me do it (Warner Bros) - September 11, 2020 -> June 4, 2021 [BOM is out of date on this one.. i have it already moved to June 2021] Top Gun: Maverick - December 23, 2020 -> July 2, 2021 The Forever Purge - Removed -> July 9, 2021 The Last Duel - December 25, 2020 -> October 15, 2021 Halloween Kills (Universal) - October 16, 2020 -> October 15, 2021 Halloween Ends (Universal) - October 15, 2021 -> October 14, 2022 All Avatar Sequels - Delayed by 1 year starting in December 2022 All Star Wars Films - Delayed by 1 year starting in December 2023
  12. My first interest in the box office occurred around the lord of the rings fellowship of the ring. I lurked at first but eventually joined BOM. when that was shutdown I joined the migration to here. I did look at a few other but BOT is where I stayed. been some epic box office runs in my time but the one that sticks the most is tracking avatar both in the US but especially in Australia where it not only shattered titanic’s top spot but Came very close to passing it in adjusted numbers. No film has come close since to avatar. Only Star Wars 7 got close (still 15m short).
  13. The big test will be in 2 weeks when tenet opens. Remember this is all happening without Victoria right now. Hoping NSW can avoid the same fate as VIC. appears QLD is avoiding for now 🤞
  14. Not bad- unhinged down 20% from last week. Probably shows the real impacts. Movies will play for longer than that Initial big opening. peninsula looks like it’s DOA here. Looks low even for the current market.
  15. Thanks to MPDAA for these numbers. Weekend This Week Week Ending 12-Aug-20 # Film Title Distributor Box Office 1 UNHINGED STUDIOCANAL 882,103 2 THE SECRET: DARE TO DREAM ROADSHOW 333,936 3 THE KING OF STATEN ISLAND UNIVERSAL 144,711 4 RED SHOES AND THE SEVEN DWARFS RIALTO 94,937 5 TRAIN TO BUSAN 2 - PENINSULA MAGNUM FILMS 90,187 6 SONIC THE HEDGEHOG PARAMOUNT 71,459 7 23 WALKS RIALTO 62,351 8 THE BURNT ORANGE HERESY SONY PICTURES 62,108 9 FOLLOW ME STUDIOCANAL 60,791 10 WE'LL END UP TOGETHER PALACE 56,245
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