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The second trend from insidekino.de - mostly nice holds with Wonka still even a little bit above expectations but with disappointing newbies:

#1 Wonka 275k
#2 Wish 185k
#3 Napoleon 85k
#4 Hunger Games 85k
#5 Saw X 50k
#6 791km 32.5k
...

Silent Night 20k
Wow! 20k -  way under the expectations, no idea why

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The final trend from insidekino.de - as often in recent weeks no pleasure to read:

#1 Wonka 260k
#2 Wish 175k
#3 Napoleon 80k
#4 Hunger Games 80k
#5 Saw X 50k
#6 791km 32.5k

...

Silent Night 20k
Wow! 17.5k

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3 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

That was a comparatively nice trend, look at the actuals, THOSE are painful to watch :(

Oh, you're right 😟

The Monday update from insidekino.de:

#1 Wonka 245 (-16%)/647.5k total admissions
#2 Wish 165k/810k
#3  80k/1.192.5M
#4 Napoleon 80k/767.5k
#5 Saw X 50k/275k
#6 (?) 791km 32.5k
...

Silent Night 17.5k
Wow! 15k

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Germany's Top13 last weekend:

 

title

admissions

th.

PTA

total adm.

total €

drop

week

1

Wonka

246.213

719

342

647.593

6.249.334

-16

2

2

Wish

165.787

656

253

811.271

7.047.195

-22

3

3

Hunger Games Prequel

81.435

550

148

1.192.870

13.351.463

-25

5

4

Napoleon

78.937

691

114

768.265

8.824.295

-30

4

5

Saw 10

50.154

442

113

275.643

2.877.427

-28

3

6

791km

25.706

325

79

35.830

323.798

-

1

7

Wow! Nachricht aus dem All

15.024

456

33

17.095

133.969

-

1

8

Anatomie d'une Chute

13.201

170

78

197.554

2.011.038

+90

7

9

Silent Night

12.573

221

57

18.451

166.771

-

1

10

Das Beste kommt noch!

11.104

346

32

44.600

433.474

-47

2

11

Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl

10.489

253

41

356.410

2.486.019

-26

8

12

Godzilla Minus One

10.350

196

53

46.913

489.329

-3

3

13

Checker Tobi 2

10.346

425

24

1.030.671

7.632.264

-34

11

Wow, baaad weekend … some decent holds but everything on a very low level, not a single standout release. The best news is that Wonka is working better than I thought it would, should reach 2mil total with the holidays.

In Austria, not much better - 10-20% percent up as usual plus one domestic release doing ok, but still bad.

Next weekend: Finally some bigger openers: Migration as the family release, Aquaman 2 for the comic book crowd and Milli Vanilli biopic Girl You Know It's True - no blockbuster but at least three attractive releases which should work throughout the holidays.

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On 12/18/2023 at 10:55 PM, el sid said:

Oh, you're right 😟

The Monday update from insidekino.de:

#1 Wonka 245 (-16%)/647.5k total admissions
#2 Wish 165k/810k
#3  80k/1.192.5M
#4 Napoleon 80k/767.5k
#5 Saw X 50k/275k
#6 (?) 791km 32.5k
...

Silent Night 17.5k
Wow! 15k

Why is Wonka keep going lower and lower in each update? This happened two weekend in a row. German doesn't like the movie? 

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24 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

Why is Wonka keep going lower and lower in each update? This happened two weekend in a row. German doesn't like the movie? 

The admissions so far are ok IMO. Mark_G from insidekino.de hoped for 2M total admissions and that could happen.

Many films looked worse and worse in these trends in recent weeks. From what I heard and saw, the Christmas markets are even more popular this year. And maybe also the weather was a factor. First we had too much snow to drive  and park (e.g. to buy gifts or visit a Christmas market) and now many people catch up on it.

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early weekend estimates from insidekino.de for Germany:

#1: Wonka - 225k admissions (-9%, that would be excellent given the date alignment)

#2: Aquaman2 - 185k

#3: Migration - 195k incl previews

#4: Wish - 125k (-25%)

All other releases <50k

 

So, if true, Wonka keeps on with the good holds, Wish is dropping steeper than expected, Migration is doing so-so (obviously hurting Wish more than Wonka) and Aquaman2 is having a big decline from the first one - not as bad as Marvels but it will be hard to reach 1mil total; the first one counted exatly 2mil back in 2018.

Of course, with 24th on Sunday, the follwing weekdays and weeks will be more important than this weekend.

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Thanks to the holiday alignment, actuals will be coming very late, but it seems the latest estimates were pretty accurate - 3 movies in the 200k range is not too bad, next weekend should see spectacular increases, with some releases maybe even doubling this weekend's numbers (that happened back in 2017 when we hat 24th on a Sun, too).

Austria seems to have had a much better weekend - Aquaman on the same level as Germany but the three wide family releases all doing better - maybe thanks to rainy weather in most regions. Wonka was nearly on the level of its OW; next weekend might count >40k admissions with a chance at 50k.

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On 12/24/2023 at 10:05 PM, el sid said:

The final trend from insidekino.de - some smaller changes:

#1 Wonka 215k
#2 Aquaman 2 190k
#3 Migration 195k
#4 Wish 115k
#5 Hunger Games 45k
#6 Napoleon 40k
#7 Girl You Know It's True 47.5k
 

Wonka drops again from initial update.....I guess 2.5m is where the final. 

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18 hours ago, titanic2187 said:

Wonka drops again from initial update.....I guess 2.5m is where the final. 

Mark_G from insidekino.de is a bit more pessimistic. He predicted 185k admissions OW (without (Monday) for Wonka and 2M total admissions. Wonka's weekend number is a bit better (210k) but 2.5M total admissions seem tough to reach now.

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2 hours ago, el sid said:

Mark_G from insidekino.de is a bit more pessimistic. He predicted 185k admissions OW (without (Monday) for Wonka and 2M total admissions. Wonka's weekend number is a bit better (210k) but 2.5M total admissions seem tough to reach now.

yep, 2,5mil seem very hard to reach but I wouldn't count it out yet - it's been having fine holds since the opening, so WOM seems ok. This week we'll see strong weekdays and hopefully a nice increase over the weekend, should come in with at least 300k, and holidays will continue until the weekend after where it should make at least 200k again. Don't underestimate those holiday legs!

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Germany's Top12 xmas weekend:

 

title

admissions

th.

PTA

total adm.

total €

drop

week

1

Wonka

210.968

749

282

958.673

8.991.608

-14

3

2

Aquaman 2

173.570

587

296

196.650

2.339.911

-

1

3

Migration

146.287

635

230

197.387

1.818.871

-

1

4

Wish

117.874

643

183

982.551

8.434.707

-29

4

5

Hunger Games Prequel

46.166

434

106

1.274.088

14.205.644

-43

6

6

Napoleon

41.201

566

73

851.408

9.677.557

-48

5

7

Girl You Know It's True

32.185

478

67

48.347

477.501

-

1

8

Saw 10

23.884

340

70

314.540

3.276.650

-52

4

9

Perfect Days

19.859

111

179

19.859

190.611

-

1

10

Dunki

17.528

87

201

17.528

275.764

-

1

11

791km

10.990

340

32

58.238

533.404

-57

2

12

Neue Geschichten vom Pumuckl

8.770

219

40

368.976

2.564.163

-16

9

Not a good weekend - with 24th on a Sunday, that was a given, but we're missing something with blockbuster potential. Wonka continues with the good holds, should top 2mil total. Aquaman 2 dropped a lot from the first one but is not flopping as hard as Marvels; in fact it might go up next weekend. Migration stayed below my expectations, but family releases should have very strong weekdays and following weekends - no flop, either.

In Austria, Wonka led the field with >30k admissions; Migration and Wish came in on #2 and 3, and Aquaman 2 was only #4 despite opening a little better than in Germany - so, we did have a much stronger weekend!

Next weekend: No wide openers, holdovers should see minimal drops or hopefully increases - in the case of family releases, even doubling last weekend's numbers is possible!

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Early weekend estimates from insidekino.de for Germany's New Year's weekend:

#1: Migration - 285k admissions (+95%)

#2: Wonka - 275k (+30%)

#3: Aquaman 2 - 240k (+38%)

#4: Wish - 190k (+61%)

#5: HG Prequel - 75k (+62%, unexpected increase)

 

Wonka with the smallest increase, maybe it's already exhausted its potential in the prior weeks - so, no 2,5mil for sure.

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The third trend from insidekino.de:

#1 Migration 300k
#2 Wonka 290k
#3 Aquaman 2 255k
#4 Wish 200k
#5 Hunger Games 82.5k
#6 Napoleon 72.5k
#7 Girl You Know It's True 70k
#8 Perfect Days 37.5k
#9 Saw X 32.5k

...

The Queen Mary 15k
Wer bist du, Mama Muh? 12.5k

Happy New Year to all the people who write and read here :).

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