BO Germany/Austria: Inside Out 2 #1 with best 2024 OW

[Flip]

14 hours ago, leoh said:

InsideKino projections for the weekend:

Garfield to lead the German box office for the second week in a row by increasing +50% from previous week.

 

IF to debut in third place with 100k admissions.

 

No.	Visitor Weekend	%	Visitor until Sunday	Possible Final result	Week	Film (studio)	RT	IMDB
1	226,000	+50	446,000	1,000,000	2	Garfield (COL)	67	6,1
2	132,000	=	316,000	600,000	2	Planet of the Apes (BV)	80	7,3
3	110,000	---	122,500	500,000	1	IF (PAR)	-	6,9
4	77,000	=	385,000	600,000	3	The Fall Guy (U)	82	7,3
5	44,000	-15	2,486,000	2,600,000	8	Chantal in Fairyland (NCO)	-	4,7
6	35,000	---	35,000	100,000	1	Tarot (COL)	20	5.0

 

5 hours ago, el sid said:

The second trend from insidekino.de:

 

#1 Garfield 125k

#2 Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes 110k

#3 IF 100k

#4 The Fall Guy 80k

#5 Tarot 55k

#6 Chantal 35k

#7 Challengers 30k

...

Nightwatch 2 10k

What Happens Later 10k

how did Garfield go from 226k to 125k? Was it a typo?

[leoh]

10 minutes ago, Flip said:

 

how did Garfield go from 226k to 125k? Was it a typo?

 

11 minutes ago, Flip said:

 

how did Garfield go from 226k to 125k? Was it a typo?

I assumed this was like box office by Sunday, so including the weekdays box office. But I’m not sure.

[el sid]

22 minutes ago, Flip said:

 

how did Garfield go from 226k to 125k? Was it a typo?

No, no typo. It's a bit complicated ;). Garfield had 206k admissions over 5 days last week (it was released on Wednesday here). It had "only" 151k admissions from Friday to Sunday last week. 

The posted chart were predictions made till Wednesday and till then the weather was projected to become worse than it actually is and probably therefore Mark_G thought Garfield would increase by 50% compared to its last weekend 3-day result (150k x 1.5).

At least that's how I would interpret it. 

[el sid]

The Sunday trend - I almost don't want to post it:

 

#1 Garfield 110k

#2 Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes 102.5k

#3 IF 90k

#4 The Fall Guy 75k

#5 Tarot 45k - given the circumstances, not even that bad

#6 Chantal 40k

#7 Challengers 27.5k 

 

It's not even that sunny where I live (but probably in other regions) but tomorrow is a legal holiday in Germany and therefore today is a good day for longer trips, to go out for a meal etc. What may help the theaters in other countries can cause the opposite here.

Plus the Pentecost holiday start(ed), e.g. in Bavaria which means also the vacation trips.

Now next weekend is predicted to become worse weather-wise but they said the same last week.

Edited May 19 by el sid

[el sid]

The Monday update from insidekino.de - all movies increased:

 

#1 Garfield 130k

#2 Planet of the Apes 110k/295k

#3 IF 107.5k

#4 The Fall Guy 80k/390k

#5 Tarot 47.5k

#6 Chantal 45k/2.490M

#7 Challengers 30k/242.5k

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top12 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Garfield	131.162	665	197	354.320	3.118.809	-12	2
2	Planet of the Apes 4	111.698	553	202	298.113	3.524.298	-16	2
3	IF	95.287	516	185	107.486	935.475	-	1
4	The Fall Guy	79.528	645	123	389.873	4.140.029	+3	3
5	Tarot	48.351	291	166	48.351	521.680	-	1
6	Chantal im Märchenland	45.809	580	79	2.489.876	25.063.532	-11	8
7	Challengers	29.866	338	88	243.186	2.445.276	-12	4
8	Back to Black	24.493	463	53	507.587	5.280.968	-5	6
9	Sterben	16.729	198	84	120.388	1.311.504	-5	4
10	Kung Fu Panda 4	15.232	474	32	1.676.518	15.372.002	-21	10
11	Beautiful Wedding	13.058	348	38	49.572	484.098	-23	2
12	Dune 2	10.050	172	58	3.093.179	38.236.654	-13	12

With worse weather, a better weekend (but still far from good) … both openers in the expected range, and decent drops (from low heights) - the nicest bit of news was that The Fall Guy had a slight increase, so definitely some WOM there. 1mil total is impossible but a decent finish around 700k seems doable.

In Austria, similar but overall better numbers, especially Garfield is doing ok (already 65k total); Tarot was also higher, >9k total after Sunday.

Next weekend: Furiosa will be the big opener. Fury Road made a lot of noise back in 2015 - a lot of  headlines and awards and stellar reviews - but in actual numbers, it got little love with only 850k admissions total in the end. I'm not sure if Furiosa will do much better, the target demo seems narrow; however, it should open to #1 with a safe lead. With weather on the rainy side all through the weekend, maybe a 250k OW is possible.

 

edit: Just looked at the presales for Furiosa at my cinema for today's OD and it's looking horrible ... despite having the biggest screens. While it should be #1 today, that doesn't bode well for the weekend - hope it's selling better elsewhere.

Edited May 22 by IndustriousAngel

[IndustriousAngel]

Early weekend estimates for Germany from insidekino.de and it looks like Furioso is indeed "underperforming":

#1: Garfield - 125k (-5%)

#2: Furiosa - 120k - ouch, that's half of what I expected

#3: IF - 77,5k (-19%)

#4: PotA 4 - 70k (-37%)

#5: FallGuy - 55k (-31%)

Edited May 24 by IndustriousAngel

[el sid]

Yes, that's only a bit more than the half of what was expected for Furiosa. 

 

But nice for the two family films . With these admission numbers from the first trend of insidekino.de...

- Garfield would have 567.5k total admissions including Sunday 

- IF 242.5k

- Planet of the Apes 415k

- The Fall Guy 477.5k.

Edited May 24 by el sid

[IndustriousAngel]

26 minutes ago, el sid said:

With these admission numbers from the first trend of insidekino.de...

- Garfield would have 567.5k total admissions including Sunday 

while this might seem "nice" in the context of Germany's depressed market, Austria's total was already at 65k last Sunday, so it had more admissions in 2 weeks than Germany will have in three. Let's face it - even Garfield's number is a disappointment.

[el sid]

The second trend from insidekino.de - slightly worse for most films but also some increases: 

 

#1 Garfield 115k

#2 Furiosa 110k

#3 IF 75k

#4 Planet of the Apes 70k

#5 The Fall Guy 60k 

#6 Chantal 37.5k

#7 Tarot - 35k

#8 Challengers 25k

 

[MrHardapple]

The third trend from insidekino.de - it is getting worse:

 

#1 Garfield 105k

#2 Furiosa 95k

#3 IF 70k

#4 Planet of the Apes 60k

#5 The Fall Guy 50k 

#6 Chantal 32.5k

#7 Tarot - 30k

 

https://www.insidekino.de/News.htm

[el sid]

The Monday update from insidekino.de - even worse:

 

#1 Garfield 100k/542.5k total admissions 

#2 Furiosa 100k

#3 IF 65k/230k

#4 Planet of the Apes 62.5k/407.5k

#5 The Fall Guy 47.5k/470k

#6 Chantal 32.5k/2.550M

#7 Tarot 30k/95k

 

The good news is, the weather in the next few days (starting tomorrow and the whole weekend) is so far predicted to become really bad almost everywhere in Germany. This weekend it was still mixed to good. If that doesn't help I'm at a loss.

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top 11 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Garfield	98.553	690	143	541.578	4.714.386	-25	3
2	Furiosa	86.856	625	139	100.062	1.199.963	-	1
3	IF	63.955	539	119	230.454	1.974.280	-33	2
4	Planet of the Apes 4	61.624	566	109	408.058	4.746.092	-45	3
5	The Fall Guy	48.163	605	80	471.496	4.981.474	-39	4
6	Chantal im Märchenland	31.522	524	60	2.549.615	25.646.042	-31	9
7	Tarot	31.147	318	98	96.575	1.018.675	-36	2
8	Challengers	21.659	317	68	282.583	2.849.961	-27	5
9	Back to Black	17.550	420	42	538.260	5.592.928	-28	7
10	Kung Fu Panda 4	13.005	436	30	1.703.219	15.592.238	-15	11
11	Sterben	12.232	235	52	142.658	1.555.162	-27	5

Wow, just wow - not a single release in the 6-digit range. Wow. I guess this thread will get locked in the forseeable future thanks to neglectable numbers … Furiosa with less than half of what I expected and even Garfield will be struggling to reach 1mil total.

In Austria, numbers were a bit better - Garfield at 83k now, should reach 150k total, and Furiosa opened a bit higher with a bit over 14k after Sunday. Kung Fu Panda 4 crossed 250k total this weekend, nice!

Next weekend: Not a single big release. Be afraid, Boxoffice. Be very afraid.

[IndustriousAngel]

with rainy weather, there's always more admissions, and at least at my cinemy, today's sales for Furiosa top those from last week's OD ... might at least see a very decent hold after the near-floppy OW.

[IndustriousAngel]

Early weekend estimates from insidekino.de for Germany: With lots of rain, there are indeed increases and excellent holds!

#1: Garfield - 150k (+52%)

#2: IF - 100k (+56%)

#3: Furiosa - 90k (+4%)

#4: PotA4 - 80k (+30%)

#5: FallGuy - 75k (+56%)

 

so overall a bit better, just no big new release. Still far from good ...

[el sid]

The even nicer second trend from insidekino.de: 

 

#1 Garfield 170k (+72%)

#2 IF 110k (also +72%)

#3 Furiosa 87.5k (+1%)

#4 Planet of the Apes 80k (+30%)

#5 The Fall Guy 75k (+56%)

#6 Tarot 37.5k (+12%)

#7 Challengers 30k (+39%)

#8 Back to Black 25k (+42%)

#9 Kung Fu Panda 4 25k (+92%)

 

Edited June 1 by el sid

[IndustriousAngel]

Family releases are profiting from the rainy afternoons, nice - today's evening will be difficult thanks to football but I guess that's already been taken care of in the estimates.

[el sid]

The third trend from insidekino.de - great for family films:

 

#1 Garfield 225k admissions (+128%)

#2 IF 155k (+142%)

#3 Furiosa 77.5k

#4 Planet of the Apes 72.k

#5 The Fall Guy 70k

#6 Chantal 50k 

#7 Tarot 37.5k

#8 Kung Fu Panda 4 32.5k (+150%)

#9 Challengers 27.5k

Edited June 2 by el sid

[el sid]

The Monday update from insidekino.de - some smaller changes: 

 

#1 Garfield 215k/ca. 800k total admissions 

#2 IF 145k/ca. 400k

#3 Furiosa 82.5k/225k

#4 Planet of the Apes 77.5k/512.5k

#5 The Fall Guy 70k/565k

#6 Chantal 52.5k/2.617.5M

 

 

[Flip]

Forecast for June is in from insidekino: 1.19m admits for Bad Boys and 2.52m admits for Inside Out 2. 

 

The bad Boys number is strong but I feel if Inside out can't pass 3m it's kind of disappointing