China Box Office Thread | Deadpool & Wolverine- July 26

[A Marvel Fanboy]

What a great hold for TDKR

dont you think that hold is a little too late ...

[The Toymaker]

TE2:

Last weeks total gross of 253.6m yuan added to this weeks gross of 48.18m yuan do not add up to 302.58m yuan.

What's gone wrong there?

[A Marvel Fanboy]

The contingent for revenue shared movies is rather limited(35?). Could not they make a fake buy-out deal? Find a Chines partner that buys the distribution rights wholy, but in reality lets the foreign movie company in someway participate on the revenue generated by this movie? All you need is a trustworthy partner in China.

Right.

Could not they make a fake buy-out deal? Find a Chines partner that buys the distribution rights wholy, but in reality lets the foreign movie company in someway participate on the revenue generated by this movie? All you need is a trustworthy partner in China.

Good question !

Such things doexist. As far as I know, Relativity Media's Immortals and Mirror Mirror were both revenue-shared buy-out deals in China, which means they were counted as buy-outs but Relativity can still get gross shares from their China theatrical releases.

On the opposite, LGF's The Hunger Games was supposed to be a buy-out revenue-share deal, which goes under the name of revenue shared movie (counted as one of the 35 quota of course) but actually a buy-out deal. However eventually it became a real revenue shared movie.

As for Looper (DMG) and The Expendables 2 (Le Vision), both of which have a Chinese company as a major investor and both of which were supposed to be co-productions, their China theatrical rights belongs to DMG and Levision respectively and Tri-Star / LGF cannot share any gross from China despite the fact that they both go under the name of revenue shared movies. So buy-outs they are but occupy the quota.

Edited September 25, 2012 by firedeep

[A Marvel Fanboy]

TE2:

Last weeks total gross of 253.6m yuan added to this weeks gross of 48.18m yuan do not add up to 302.58m yuan.

What's gone wrong there?

Dang, there were little differences between Mtime number and SARFT number.

Mtime number:

Week 1: 159.2m yuan

Week 2: 94.4m yuan

Week 3: unknown

Cume: unkown

SARFT number"

Week 1: 160.0m yuan

Week 2: 94.0m yuan

Week 3: 48.18M

Cume: 302.18m yuan

Apparantly I took Mtime numbers for week 1&2 and Sarft number for last week and also made a mistake when adding up.

Anyway, I will just take the Sarft number this time: http://e.weibo.com/u/2304129841

[dezorz]

The contingent for revenue shared movies is rather limited(35?). Could not they make a fake buy-out deal? Find a Chines partner that buys the distribution rights wholy, but in reality lets the foreign movie company in someway participate on the revenue generated by this movie? All you need is a trustworthy partner in China.

i dont know about china but just because company A buys distribution rights from company B doesnt mean that B cannot get some part of revenues if some conditions are met. if it wasnt this way how could independent producers get some profit if they could only get back their expenses? (you can get 30-50 percent of budget from US distribution (cinemas, dvds and tvs possibly too) and max. 50-60 percent from all OS markets. take LOTR frox example. it was financed from rights pre-solds. how could new line make any profit, if revenues werent shared?

[The Toymaker]

Thanks firedeep. Cleared up. Great.Can you let me know who you get them from whenever you post them? I'm just keeping track of TE2's numbers and want to know which list to put it in.

[A Marvel Fanboy]

Thanks firedeep. Cleared up. Great.

Can you let me know who you get them from whenever you post them? I'm just keeping track of TE2's numbers and want to know which list to put it in.

Just from the two links in #3806.

Mtime's last week number was up about one hour ago:http://news.mtime.com/2012/09/25/1498051-2.html

They much quite different numbers. much better for TE2: 50.5M yuan (cume 304.1m yuan $48.2m); but much worse for TDKR: only 21m yuan (cume 343.6m yuan $54.5m); also some little diffs for TASM/PROM/WIB.

Mtime claim their numbers is from China Film Newspaper but their numbers actually differs from each other. Weird. Usually they were the same. Thinking maybe what Mtime show is more accurate since their data comes a few hours later. I probably will just use Mtime number from next week.

Regarding when the numbers available, usually every Tuesday afternoon:

China bo data is not that easy to track, due to limited source and unsteady exchange rate. A few Chinese sites report weekly numbers here and there. But their reports always differ form each other. As you may know, entgroup, a Chinese entertainment media site, has an English page and it report weekly top 10 on Tuesday since 2011. But their numbers is very limited, not quite accurate and not quite official.

Mtime, biggest movie site in China, have been reporting weekly top 10 numbers since 2008. And their current source (since early 2011) comes from China Film Newspaper, an official film newspaper belongs to CHINA FILM ART RESEARCH CENTER, which is part of SARFT (The State Administration of Radio Film and Television). China Film Newspaper now also release weekly numbers on Weibo.com, the most popular Chinese social site, every Tuesday (Beijing time).

[The Toymaker]

Ok. Mtime does seem the better source. But entgroup also often gets higher grosses for TE2 than mtime and SARFT, so what I'm doing is recording them all. Mtimes are better because they are accurate, whereas entgroups are always estimates.Anyway, thanks firedeep. Much appreciated.

[A Marvel Fanboy]

You are welcome !

Breaking:

Looper is back, 9.28, the Friday !

[POLYLOVE]

9.28, Looper is back for National Holiday week! DMG has done a very successful lobby. :PThe 7-days holiday is expected to generate 300M+ Yuan in gross. Each movie may collect 60M Yuan on average, and they will compete each other for more. Excited to see the result.

Edited September 25, 2012 by POLYLOVE

[Olive]

8-day holiday

[POLYLOVE]

You are welcome !

Breaking:

Looper is back, 9.28, the Friday !

In fact I just can't wait to see how Huayi's new 3D movie flop in the coming holiday.

[POLYLOVE]

8-day holiday

Yep.

[A Marvel Fanboy]

9.28, Looper is back for National Holiday week! DMG has done a very successful lobby. :PThe 7-days holiday is expected to generate 300M+ Yuan in gross. Each movie may collect 60M Yuan on average, and they will compete each other for more. Excited to see the result.

Just hope next week can hit the 400M yuan.

[A Marvel Fanboy]

In fact I just can't wait to see how Huayi's new 3D movie flop in the coming holiday.

Well, I will be happy daning with joy if that happens.

[The Toymaker]

YES! Will get too see some Bruce Willis action.

[fmpro]

dont you think that hold is a little too late ...

Yep.. Still good though

[A Marvel Fanboy]

[fmpro]

Thats quite a drop for TDKR from previous numbers

[Olive]

The Assassins / Bronze Swallow Terrace flops！