The Toymaker

Iron Man 3, Die Hard, The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe etc. are not Christmas movies. They are movies related to Christmas and/or are set at Christmas. A Christmas movie is a movie with the central theme about Christmas related notions, like presents (Jingle all the Way) or Father Christmas (Santa Clause), not terrorists (Die Hard) and superheroes (Iron Man 3). This whole idea of including films like Die Hard into Christmas movie lists was all thought up because of the fact that morons can't produce a list of 10 Christmas movies, so they need to stretch the rules and include films that aren't related to the genre of Christmas.

I don't know, it seemed pretty unpopular when I mentioned it in the Worst Movies of All Time thread.

Are you having a laugh?

Just finished Hours (2013), the Paul Walker baby-saving epic.

Hours (2013)

2001: A Space Odyssey is shit.

That goes without saying.

It really doesn't matter.

Firestorm and Personal Tailor look so bad. I will see The White Storm and No Man's Land (but not in China).

This is the typical 'worst films ever' list. I actually like quite a few on here, including The Punisher, Rocky V, Junior, Godzilla and Batman & Robin.

I've been keeping a list for years. I constantly update it and add new films. I also re-evaluate films that have been on the list a while too, and all of those are in my Bottom 100 list.

A few more that I forgot to mention earlier and that may have gotten into my list had I not already posted it: Southland Tales Hobo with a Shotgun The Darkest Hour Doomsday The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 2 Planet Terror Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix Brüno A Clockwork Orange Elektra Fighting Wag the Dog The Exorcist (1973) Natural Born Killers Kingdom of Heaven The Rum Diary Silent Hill Woman in Black Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End Snakes on a Plane Halloween (2007) Daredevil Man on Fire Deliverance The Godfather Vacancy: The First Cut And Soon the Darkness House at the End of the Street (2012) Scary Movie 5

Because it's a third of 100, and 100 is too many (requires too much thought, says baumer)

I could do a Top 10. 1. Roman Pearce 2. Dominic Toretto 3. Darius Stone 4. Luke Hobbs 5. Han Seoul-Oh 6. Tej Parker 7. John Cale 8. Conrad S. Hauser 9. Marvin F. Hinton 10. Peeta Mellark

d/p

I just saw Piranha 3DD. This seemed like the best thread to mention it.

Good thread.

That's the first Christmas movie I saw, but I don't regard it as good.

I look forward to seeing After Earth sweep.

1. Get Carter (2000) 2. Cliffhanger 3. Cop Land 4. Cobra 5. Assassins 6. Tango & Cash 7. The Specialist 8. Demolition Man 9. The Expendables 10. Paradise Alley

The Expendables 2 wins this. Sylvester Stallone Arnold Schwarzenegger Bruce Willis Chuck Norris Jean Claude Van Damme Dolph Lundgren Jason Statham Jet Li Terry Crews Scott Adkins Randy Couture Liam Hemsworth Yu Nan Charisma Carpenter Amanda Ooms Others would be Ocean's Thirteen, The Great Escape and Kelly's Heroes. Coming soon: The Expendables 3. Sylvester Stallone Arnold Schwarzenegger Harrison Ford Mel Gibson Wesley Snipes Jason Statham Antonio Banderas Dolph Lundgren Ronda Rousey Terry Crews Randy Couture Jet Li Kellan Lutz Kelsey Grammer Robert Davi The Expendables franchise is by far the most high-profile and best casted series of films ever.

1. Sin City 2. Man of Steel 3. Watchmen 4. X2: X-Men United 5. Kick-Ass 6. Batman Forever 7. X-Men 8. Batman 9. V for Vendetta 10. A History of Violence

That's a popular opinion. Everybody knows he can't act, much the same as Arnold in the 80s, but he has a charm that people like, so they don't feel the need to mention his lack of acting ability every 5 seconds.

In the Top 3 of superhero movies ever. A-

One of the best Christmas movies there is. A