Sunshine, Light, and Joy


This is a post that I've been thinking about for awhile. Recently, I opened up the discussion to other members of the staff to get their feelings on the matter, and their opinions generally matched mine, which is this:

Within the last year or so, there's been a steady increase of negative posts in movie threads. We've always had some heated discussions for some movies, but recently things have not only gotten more histrionic in those threads (generally speaking, the CBM ones), but they've started to spread to other franchises and other movies as well. I'm not talking about out-and-out trolling, I'm talking about members feeling they have to consistently shit on a movie (or studio, or star) simply because they aren't interested in the current project or projects. With every piece of news about a movie, it's now a virtual guarantee that there's a flood of people rushing to say they think it sucks, they don't like the current trailer/tv spot/actor/actress/director/concept. And I get it -- we all have movies we don't like, movies which we think are bad ideas, industry people that just don't appeal to us. But there's a fine line between expressing your opinion about this and doing it so often, with such consistency, that the collective emphasis of all of it basically brings down the entire thread and thus the entire forum.

There's no easy answer to this. We don't want to crush freedom of expression here. But at the same time, the spirit of this forum is for people to have fun talking about the movies they love and the box-office runs they love.

To have fun.

And while it may be fun -- in a sense -- to personally vent about a movie, or to vent at people who dare to enjoy something you don't, it doesn't bring fun to our community. In fact, it generally drags down the overall fun for everyone else. We've had people repeatedly mention to us over the last several months or so that in some cases they don't even bother going into some threads -- even for movies they're curious about! -- because they just don't want to deal with the overall mess those threads contain. And frankly, that matches the personal opinion of most of the staff as well.

So this post is both a request and a warning. 

The request: Next time you feel like taking a dump on a movie (or a topic) for the dozenth time, take a moment to consider whether it's really worth it. People probably already have a good idea of what your attitude about the project is. Maybe just put your posting energy into a movie that you enjoy and love or are excited about.

The warning: The staff is going to be taking a closer look at some of these threads and we'll be more active with temp thread-bans if we think it'll help the overall vibe of the forum. I'd rather we don't have to, but it's not going to constrain any of you too much if you aren't allowed to post about a movie you supposedly don't care about anyway.

Remember the words of Bill and Ted: "Be Excellent to Each Other".

They're just movies, guys. It's about having fun.

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  1. Corpse : (C)2017 Disney Enterprises, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Weekend Estimates (05/27-28) 01 (01) ¥339,000,000 ($3.0 million), -22%, ¥9,625,000,000 ($85.2 million), Beauty and the Beast (Disney) WK6 02 (---) ¥130,000,000 ($1.2 million), 0, ¥130,000,000 ($1.2 million), What a Wonderful Family! 2 (Shochiku) NEW 03 (---) ¥120,000,000 ($1.1 million), 0, ¥120,000,000 ($1.1 million), To Each His Own (Toho) NEW 04 (02) ¥114,000,000 ($1.0 million), -29%, ¥6,350,000,000 ($56.7 million), Detective Conan: Crimson Love Letter (Toho) WK7 05 (04) ¥97,000,000 ($870,000), -33%, ¥3,675,000,000 ($33.3 million), The Fate of the Furious (Toho-Towa) WK5 06 (03) ¥93,000,000 ($835,000), -37%, ¥875,000,000 ($7.9 million), Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (Disney) WK3 07 (05) ¥92,000,000 ($825,000), -35%, ¥325,000,000 ($2.9 million), Peach Girl (Shochiku) WK2 08 (08) ¥77,000,000 ($690,000), -21%, ¥1,575,000,000 ($14.1 million), Teiichi: Battle of Supreme High (Toho) WK5 09 (06) ¥76,000,000 ($680,000), -40%, ¥250,000,000 ($2.3 million, Your Eyes (Nikkatsu) WK2 10 (07) ¥65,000,000 ($585,000), -39%, ¥300,000,000 ($2.7 million), Arrival (Sony) WK2 Based on this past weekend's estimates, I have Beauty and the Beast hitting the ¥10 billion milestone on Thursday, its 42nd day in release. Disney's latest live-action iteration will become the 31st film to reach the uber-blockbuster milestone of ¥10 billion, and likely the tenth fastest of those to reach the important mark. Fastest to ¥10 billion (90 Days or Less) 25 - Spirited Away (2001) 28 - Your Name. (2016) 28 - Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001) 30 - Bayside Shakedown: Save the Rainbow Bridge! (2003) 31 - Ponyo (2008) 33 - Howl's Moving Castle (2004) 35 - Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002) 37 - Frozen (2014) 37 - Alice in Wonderland (2010) 42 - Beauty and the Beast (2017) *Projection* 43 - Princess Mononoke (1997) 44 - Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azakaban (2004) 45 - Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) 47 - Star Wars: Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace (1999) 50 - Avatar (2009) 52 - Finding Nemo (2003) 52 - Toy Story 3 (2010) 52 - The Last Samurai (2003) 53 - The Wind Rises (2013) 53 - Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (2007) 53 - Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (2005) 57 - The Matrix Reloaded (2003) 78 - The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2004)
  2. Saturday pre-sales down 52.3% for BATB. Looking to drop a bit better than Alice over the weekend, but not that much better. GOTG2 not breaking out, as expected.
  3. It has nothing to do with Disney. Detective Conan movies pretty much get the same multiplier every year (5-5.5) regardless of competition. Same thing for Shin-chan movies, Doraemon movies, Pokemon movies, etc.
  4. Yes, I know. Although technically the 1st of may isn't part of GW. But it's dropping on par with other similar movies like FF8, not better.
  5. Unlikely given its monday to monday drop.
  6. BATB is up in pre-sales over saturday last week (up 2.7%). FF8 is down 45.1%.
  7. There's a discount since it's Ladies Day, so it probably won't be its largest day in yen. That will most likely be Friday which is Children's Day and is always the biggest Golden Week day.
  8. Too early to tell. It will depend a lot on its drop once GW is over. Post golden week drops are usually very harsh though, even Frozen dropped 35%.
  9. Yes. Even with Golden Week weekend, that's great drop.
  10. Based on last week actuals and mimorin drops. BATB : 968m yen Furious (using BATB average ticket price) : 640 million yen Conan : 591m yen
  11. Has any other country besides Japan not had F&F debut at #1 ?
  12. Wait, it only did 6k admissions after 9.20 pm on saturday ? Then it might actually be a little higher on sunday. Though given the scale, whether it's below or above, it's basically flat. edit : It's up.
  13. I don't know about yen. I'm talking about tickets. Its admissions will fall behind as sunday evenings usually have very few admissions after 10 pm unlike saturday evenings.