ThomasNicole

Reviews on May 15

Anya Taylor Joy presence in the press tour has been very big on social media And she was gorgeous indeed Hopefully this can help the movie with lower audiences. She does have appeal.

Saw enough reactions from people that don´t throw high praise for everything liking it, and seems like a good sign to me that people are talking honestly about some issues while still being very enthusiastic. Seems more real and relevant to me than usual ´´it´s the best movie ever´´ type of reaction we see sometimes. Unless someone is expecting the same kind of universal acclaim that Reeves got, which i genuinely doubt it can get close, i don´t think reviews for this will disappoint.

Unless it drops on the day of previews, lately it doesn´t mean much anymore. Plenty of very well received movies is ending embargos late since last year, maybe they´re trying to get some late boost in sales.

Definitely, is just the accusatory tone that sits somewhat wrong to me and seems to happens more frequently in these cases.

This is tracking thread, is an extrapolation based on actual data, i don’t think is needed to say that once the movie opens the sales can go either way depending on walkups (or the lack of them). This is truth for pretty much every movie imo, Fall Guy doesn’t need different treatment just because the presales so far are bad. Everyone knows it can surprise in the next days.

Don’t take this too seriously, i know people have many reasons to be skeptical of fucking Disney in 2024 With that said, it’s so weird how pretty much every movie made by women, LGBT+ people or black people have to be defended by it’s directors before anyone even see them.

Not fully surprised with Challengers, the movie is massive on social media. I though it would explode on Prime Vídeo, but thankfully it seems to be helping it’s box office as well. I doubt it’s the type of movie that needs IMAX and PFL, it can try some great 40% drop or less on second weekend.

I mean, obviously there’s many factors into this discussion but the slate have to be strong first lol The Fall Guy looks fun but it’s concept isn’t remotely fresh and outside of the meta aspect, it does look similar to some other very recent movies that didn’t do that well either. Mad Max is a niche franchise, if Fury Road wasn’t a big hit there’s really no reason to think a prequel without Charlize will be. Garfield already failed in theaters when it was more popular than it is now. IF can surprise but it’s idea isn’t that exciting either. And Apes is a very good franchise but also had limited appeal. Honestly? If Hollywood wants to compete with the game and streaming industry, maybe do more interesting / fresh movies and learn how to market original things again? Or even better, don’t spend months fighting with creatives to fuck them even more. With that said, i do think The Fall Guy can be the worse performer of May, so the month can still improve. Sales for IF, Garfield and Apes looks somewhat decent to me.

It’s not like he’s promising a completely new and never seen before story by doing a movie openly inspired by the catiline conspiracy lol I mean, he quoted like 20 names of people that inspired him for this movie and said it contains everything he learned in his lifetime about these themes. He’s just doing his version rethink to modern world, of course it’s a new incarnation of many things.

Not necessarily, most movies does have distribution already and it’s produced by film companies. Just not the usual ones. They go to Cannes for visibility in most cases, win a Prize or even just screen there can help the distribution and turn the movie into a success depending on reception. For big studios, they also want the visibility, it brings credibility, so they send movies that they believe will get good reception. If this is bad reviewed it can kill it’s entire marketing campaign since reviews will be out a month before release. It can happen, but WB certainly doesn’t think it will.

If we decide to name the good movies that played at Cannes that list would be 100x bigger. I mean sure it’s not a guaranteed thing, but most of the times, if it’s at Cannes, they have faith in it’s reception.

All studios should be releasing 4K trailers at this point I find the imagery a bit off, but i bet it have more to do with the bad compression 1080p quality that is common for YouTube and Twitter It hurts every movie, but this fully digital movies tend to look very bad in their platforms

I think the best thing going on for Jenkins is that nobody expects anything from a prequel and people online hated the Favreau one. Just a decent movie with more personality should be enough to be seen as a surprise. Hoping he can take something good out of this, he doesn’t deserve a panned thing hurting his reputation.

This looks a bit more cartoonish (which is a great decision tbh), also liked some of the more stylized shots here and there. At least the trailer seems to have more personality than the Favreau one. Let’s see, i don’t think it will drop like Alice 2. The date alone will prevent that, and TLK was well liked by audiences, i doubt families hate that enough to skip this in Christmas. 300-ish DOM and ~1B WW seems reasonable to me

It definitely could, i don’t think anyone is dismissing that. We just know that for Amazon, it probably doesn’t matter if the success will come from theaters on in their platform streaming that is more valuable for them. Sometimes it fails in both, but we probably have to wait months before knowing this. Judging movies performances when there’s streaming platforms behind them is really trick, but it’s a reality. Screaming bomb based on it’s first weekend on theaters is more and more close to an overreaction, unless it’s a 300M budget or something. That said, i get it that this year have been very weak so it’s normal that people will have stronger reactions when every week there’s a disappointment.

Extremely bizarre phrasing aside, what’s here to be objective? Amazon paid for both Bones and All and Challengers together in their Guadagnino combo. The actual production company was paid even before both movies hit theaters. And we’re not even talking about WB participation in all of this and the tons of product placement all over the movie. I mean sure, everyone was paid except Amazon which did invest millions in buying them from the production company and marketing them. Still we all know things doesn’t end in box office for Amazon since they’re not simply a movie studio. That’s objective and factually truth. It’s also very true that this won’t gross enough for a 55M budget so it’s a disappointment in this regard? Sure, but there’s way more factors into this. Screaming “bomb” to everything using just budget vs box office for a movie that streamers paid for is more of a lazy statement than an objective one imo.

For something to be widely popular, it needs to be discussed by you and your group of close people? lol

Saltburn falls in the same category of Euphoria (and to some extent … Challengers). It’s very young, horny with disturbing twists, dubious characters, portrays a lot of dramas that dialogues with newest generations. It’s obvious why that won’t resonate with most older audiences. I’m pretty sure Saltburn and Euphoria is a flop with some audiences, but it’s definitely huge with a big portion of young audiences, which explains the huge engagement both have in social media. It’s not 4 quadrant but it’s definitely something since both HBO and Amazon drop statements talking about how happy they are with them. There’s a good chance Challengers will follow the same route once is available in other ways, even if it’s box office is unimpressive. This idea of something 4 quadrant that everyone loves comes from an ideal world that is usually very white, mostly manly, cis and straight, it’s retrograde at this point.

We live in a highly fragmented world, it’s not just streaming, it’s the entertainment and all business now. Nearly everything popular these days are huge with some groups and irrelevant or a joke to others. It’s just the way things are.

This is only fun when the person is delusional. The movie is good, well received, it’s not expensive enough to be a huge bomb anyway and won’t hurt the career of any people involved in it. It’s literally something that only people here, Reddit and other small groups care.

Saltburn is a verified smash hit those SambaTV data is hilarious. First because is not a super reliable data and it’s US only, second because there was given the information that the movie growed exponentially after it’s first week. Amazon did released global info about it for weeks, it was huge, this isn’t a discussion. And Challengers can follow the same route, even if smaller.

I mean, 15M for this movie is not particularly a bad opening. I would like 20M, but 15M was always the baseline expected number, so i don’t know why people are surprised. It’s probably going to make 80-90M WW, it’s a decent result for a movie like this in 2024. The only problem is that is costs 55M, if it costs 25M everyone would call it a success. Obviously i know the budget is a problem and objectively will prevent the movie from being profitable (at least theatrically), don’t need anyone pointing that to me, but from what we know, it wasn’t supposed to cost this much and it did because it was shoot during Covid. This is not the first and won’t be the last case of a movie doing relatively well for it’s genre but still not being profitable due to unexpected covid shooting. It’s not really fair to me to say that a movie like this should be doing 150-200M which is way higher than anyone expects for a semi arthouse sports drama simply because the budget blowed up in difficult times. It’s fair to discuss the problems situations like this are still creating, how it’ll depend on PVOD and streaming, how it’s disappointing to have another bummer in a already weak year. But it’s important to keep reminding the context of those things to not be the person that says movies that historically doesn’t do 200M should be doing now.