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    Weekend Thread 7/7-7/9 | ABSOLUTELY NO SPOILERS ALLOWED | SMH 117M, DM3 34M, BD 12.5M, WW 10.1M, TF5 6.3M, Biggus Dickus 3.65

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    Very good OW for Spidey.  I think that Friday number had us all hoping for 130 but to call this a disappointment or underwhelming is insane.  Sony did a killer job getting the franchise back on track and making a film that will entertain most anyone.  WW officially getting the summer crown has to be one of the most fun BO stories I've had the pleasure of tracking since about '05.

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    Weekend Actuals: 36.2 M ALIEN: COVENANT | 34.7 M GOTG II | 11.7 M EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING

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    4 minutes ago, drdungbeetle said:

    I don't know how "good" Pirates is but I've heard at least some people think the movie looks cool because Will Turner is back and Javier Bardem is in it. Transformers blew the Dinobots in the last movie and has nothing new to sell.

    i have a friend who saw it at CinemaCon and said it was at least entertaining.  She didn't love it but she wasn't annoyed by it like the last one.

    Weekend Actuals: 36.2 M ALIEN: COVENANT | 34.7 M GOTG II | 11.7 M EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING

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    Decent for Covenant but clearly Prometheus WOM had its affect.  Great for GOTG, Marvel just can't miss.  And honestly for me the story of the weekend is Everything, Everything.  I knew from the YA book circles it was a best seller but thats a really strong result and great counter programming for a film with two virtually unknown leads.  Definitely tapped into their tween/teen audience and got people out.  Always a fan of watching 5-10 million budget films make 3-4 times that during summer.  

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    Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets | July 21, 2017 | FLOP OF THE YEAR

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    On 4/17/2017 at 7:44 AM, MrGlass2 said:

     

    We don't know how much movies cost until a few months after release, so every time a number is given somewhere it becomes a fact. This kind of discussion is pointless.

     

    And especially in this case: what is the source for that $209 million claim? Can't find it on THR or anywhere else, Google's first result is... this thread.

    lol, we definitely know how much movies cost pre release.  that's just a flat out false statement.

     

    can't find the THR article i read but here's the same thing from movieweb (also if you google 'valerian 209 million' you will get a lot of results confirming the same.

     

    http://movieweb.com/valerian-most-expensive-movie-france-production/

    Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets | July 21, 2017 | FLOP OF THE YEAR

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    15 hours ago, The Futurist said:

    The movie was ALWAYS budgeted at 190m at least.

     

    I don't get why this seems such a surprise to anyone.

     

    He wanted to make a movie to compete with the current market and the current market is the 200M/300m blockbuster.

     

    Simple really.

     

    And yes, it is his life long dream.

     

    it's a surprise because just because a director wants to make a 250 million dollar film doesn't mean they do.  ESPECIALLY a sci-fi.  Besson doesn't have some insane pedigree in terms of putting up box office hits (Lucy was a big success but I don't understand how he convinced them to do this).  And with virtually unknown leads.  I love DeHaan but the general public has no clue who he is.  So yeah, color me shocked.

     

    I also think it's interesting people seem to be taking it a bit personally that I posted that.   I understand wanting a good film, but I DON'T understand setting up a film to be the worst kind of headline.  Which is what they've done here.  I mean this has to hit Lucy numbers to even think of being profitable with no Scar Jo, a much stranger concept and crowded market.  I just don't get the thought behind it from a practical stand point.  

    WEEKEND THREAD | Official Weekend Estimates: Beauty and the Beast - 88.3M; Power Rangers - 40.5M; Life - 12.6M; Other Numbers First Post. Gokira has been threadbanned.

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    Those international numbers for PR are outright shocking.  In todays climate where the other markets can really justify sequels or at least save films from being an outright flop I just can't believe how poorly it's doing.  The domestic numbers are actually pretty good.  It's just stacked against the budget, even if it hit a 3x and finished at 120 it's gotta wait for ancillary streams to be in the green.  I haven't seen it yet but I've actually heard it's a lot of fun.  

     

    Interested to see if PR not being a breakout gives GITS some room to breath.  Seems like there's little to no buzz but it's the kind of role Scar Jo thrives in.  I think anything over 25 OW would be a success in terms of expectations.

    BEAUTY AND THE BEAST WEEKEND THREAD | Late Sunday Numbers (Asgard) - 48-49M | Official Weekend Estimate: 170M; OS OW: 180M; WW OW: 350M

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    Just incredible for BATB.  A lot of us thought this was coming but still to pull it off is a different thing.

     

    Another thing, I am definitely not thinking an opening like this is guaranteed for TLK. It's certainly the more popular property of the two, and maybe final gross wise it can match this, but this film was unique in a lot of ways.  There was star power here, Watson, in this role, got people in seats.  People can deny it but it's true.  It would have been big either way.  It would not have been 170 big.  Also, this was an event film.  There hadn't been a family hit since the holidays and none of those felt like must see (a lot of 250 million grossers, respectable but not event 4 quadrant films).  This to me was just the perfect storm.  Reminds me a lot of Avengers in a way, where at a point interest peaks and you can have a LOT of success afterwards but there is a ceiling.  I think, OW wise, this is the ceiling for a Disney live action remake.  Time will tell but I think everyone who assumes that because this was a monster TLK a will hit 190-200.  Remember how rare that air is.

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