Mr Terrific

I’m militantly pro-union so I strongly dislike Iger’s comments. But that’s the crap corporate bosses say and likely believe in these situations. It’s like being scandalized by the Emperor dissing Jedi.

I mean soon, but still

ROTB>Creed III ☹️

Too bad that MI isn’t doing better right away. I’m an old who is waiting for the weekend so I connect to that reason for having hope. Still, my MCU Stan voice is saying, “Quantumania over MI7… ahem.”

Comic book plot lines can be absurdly complicated. I read cbs like crazy from about six to 18. Many years later, I was reading a War of the Lanterns article/synopsis. Aw, shoot. Your brain needs to be prepped for that.

Guy Gardner in live action! We live in bountiful times.

Gonna dip out of this thread for the night. Maybe I will permanently as I’ve undeniably taken up a good chunk of space. Peace (Really)

Oh good grief. People can make negative statements about me that I can disagree with. I can dislike that. I can make negative statements about other people. There is zero contradiction. Name one person that I’ve unfairly attached to extremism.

I don’t want to insult you, but are you being intentionally obtuse about this? I would call someone a Nazi or a fascist if I thought they said or did things that fit those definitions. JC can call me or people with my beliefs crazy things. I don’t have to trust him though. I didn’t bring Q into this and don’t think I’ve mentioned it in this thread. You continue to make odd and incorrect assumptions about me. Not sure why that is part of this. I’m from a Catholic family, but I’ve not attended or practiced for a while. I do have many devout Catholics in my family who have used their faith as fuel to do very good real things. I don’t particularly like representing himself as a man of faith when I see him using doctrines in ways that are not at all universally agreed with by other Catholics. He has no more standing to talk about the Devil than I do.

I dislike extremist right wingers and child trafficking at the same time. You’re making it a ridiculous choice. You’re making odd personal judgments about me that are false.

Yes. This.

Caveziel refers to people who disagree with him as working with Lucifer! I’m supposed to concede that someone who thinks me, my wife, most of my family and hundreds of friends are in league with the devil as a reasonable guy? That’s laughable. This isn’t do I side with Depp or Heard. This is a highly political guy talking about the devil. He’s a dad! Me, too. I’ve only been married for 18 though. I’m pushing my point aggressively because that is literally what the guy has asked for. Just read his wiki page and argue that he just wants to talk.

Messed up post

I’m gonna nope you on that. I am not letting the Right claim some kind of moral high ground on caring for kids. I literally do more about it. And I have no problem saying I fail often and the system fails often. I encourage people to do more than watch a movie or defend a movie. I’ve said that in this thread. Watching the movie makes zero difference. If it makes you do a good thing, great.

Caveziel is a complete coward in the clip above with Ballard. He seems to nod. Or does he? He won’t explicitly agree with or repudiate a very intense and hostile point of view. I guess it’s hard to be a man of conviction and sell a movie simultaneously. It’s also hard to be a man of convictio if you’re ok with someone beating false witness.

This is another reason that creatives and associated fields need to have strong unions. Corporations are very willing to have giant profits and then be austere with the workers. Why not argue that the movie cost more than it did if that means none of it goes out in residuals?

I’m sorry, folks. The guy the movie is based on has extremist beliefs and lumps people who disagree with him with pedophiles. He states things I have literally never heard a liberal say as clear liberal doctrine. The actor playing the real life guy publicly has said similar or worse things. The actor nods or doesn’t argue during the real guy’s rant while they are promoting the movie. Nah, how could anyone see a connection?

I have no anger toward you, but do you really not get that people logical reasons to distrust and dislike this guy, and not trust his motives? He clearly wants his movies being discussed.

I’ll do this. The first time I see or hear or any of my colleagues see or hear someone actually helping a child because of this movie, I will come on this board and acknowledge. Pack a lunch if you are gonna wait.

Jim Caveziel declares people who disagree with him part of Lucifer’s army. It’s not so much that I hate him. It’s that he has hateful, paranoid views and I would be a chump to take morality lessons from him. That gets me toward hating him sure. Why would someone who actually works in this field having any obligation to support his movie? People in this field need financial support, not a movie. We need govt. funding. We need charitable organizations working with vulnerable kids at every level. Volunteers? Bueller?

Why, Belakor?

That’s an interesting point. We do the exercise of how a movie would do with a different lead all the time. I don’t know if Caveziel was brought into movie more as actor or whether he was part of production earlier.

People who for real work with actual kids are usually underpaid. The work is really hard and to see an famous actor wrap himself in a heroic role to put forward his vile views honestly pisses me off. And if I disagree with him? I’m with Lucifer?* That is nuts. * - he suggests that, not posters here

If I’m being cold-blooded about it, “awareness” by itself or being worried helps no one. I don’t mean to be hostile but finding something scary that is real after seeing it in a movie doesn’t mean much. Due respect, people whose child is harmed by someone close to them probably thought they had control. Go do a good thing for an actual kid. The systemic problem is that some people will trust this guy about the nutty stuff because he is concerned about something that 99.99% of people find reprehensible. It’s snake oil. He promotes the idea that people of my ilk - - liberals, people in government, the media - are hiding something. That makes no sense. That’s Pizzagate shit. That means Hollywood guy is the expert talking about adrenochrome and some people trust actual experts less. To be clear, you would get better results on stopping child trafficking if you gave cops, teachers, social workers, juvenile officers and school counselors more money. You’d get better staff with more experience. That’s a real solution for the safety of children. Not “awareness.” I don’t think that interests Jim Caveziel. I think he wants to make speeches.

I’m 53 years old. The media has been filling me with fear of crazy perverts and scary tattooed guys abducting children that entire time. Those tihings are undeniably bad. But actual numbers - - arrests, convictions - - reveal that kids are overwhelmingly more likely to be hurt by a family member or someone with a prior relationship. People who refuse to acknowledge that are “worrying about kids” instead of addressing actual systemic issues. Jim Caveziel’s career is very connected to his beliefs. The idea that he is some great helper of children has no actual evidence.