The Panda

Batman Returns felt like a breath of fresh air compared to a few others.

You should list the films people had a as their numbers ones that didn't make the list.

Nocturnal Animals isn't even a top 10 score for 2016. Calm down.

Id argue from a profit standpoint, you're better off as an actor if you are typecasted. That way when people see your name, they have an idea what they're getting and will go. Being able to draw consistent audiences like Rogen, DiCaprio or McCarthy is better than having a few smashes.

The Judge

Another thing on stars. I think the reason people act as if star power doesn't exist is that they assume to many actors are pulls because they're in a successful movie/franchise. Just like stars like McCarthy use their name to brand themselves, actors can brand themselves to a role if they're not careful. Watson, for example has played Belle and Hermione, and people see her as those characters. Nobody went to see Harry Potter or BATB to see the next "Emma Watson movie", they went to see the new Harry Potter/Disney movie. Same with say Robert Downey Jr being a pull when he's in a Marvel movie, but has no pull in something else. People see him as Tony Stark now, he's branded himself as a particular character. The main actor that I can think of that escaped this trap was Harrison Ford. Pratt's one that I think will escape it to. People still see him as Chris Pratt, he's branded himself as a funny everyday guy that can also do action. I think he still needs to prove himself with more films, but The Magnificent Seven and Passengers both did well, despite mild reception, and obviously JW/GOTG are big roles for him.

Yeah, or for a more recent example look at McCarthy or Dwayne Johnson. Both of them are draws, and they're able to frame a movie as "That new Melissa McCarthy movie". McCarthy pulled a good grosses for movies like Tammy, Identity Thief and The Boss. Hell, even St Vincent was a sleeper hit. She knows what roles she's good at, sells herself as it, and has become her own brand or franchise. Actors that diversify themselves need to be much bigger draws to achieve the same effect. DiCaprio's a good example for that, although you could even say audiences associate him with quality prestige flicks.

I disagree that there's no such thing as actors who are a draw. An actor can be a draw and the movie can still flop, there's many factors going into a movie. Leonardo DiCaprio is an example of an actor who draws audiences, like it or not. Movies like The Revenant, The Wolf of Wall Street, The Great Gatsby, Shutter Island, etc. were practically sold on him. Now a star isn't going to save a turd like The Circle, that isn't being marketed at all, especially with a late April release. And while a lot of people were bringing up Passengers earlier this year as proof there's no star power, its final gross showed the opposite. The movie was marketed terribly, was a turd and had quite a bit of competition, yet it still made 100m. That's likely due to Lawrence and Pratt being marketable. Obviously it was still a bomb, but it likely would have done worse if it had been Elgort and Woodley in those roles for example. Stars won't sell a movie on their own, but I don't buy that there's no such thing as a pull. I think audiences seeing big name likeable actors in a movie helps its gross to some extent, that benefit might get drowned out by other big negative detractors, but the benefit should still play out.

Lol, remember a month ago when people were clamoring that The Circle could be a 30m Opener due to Watson's star power?

Youre probably wise for doing so. An educated guess is only marginally, if even, better than a random guess. It's kind of like how even professional investors, not named Warren Buffet, suck at picking stocks and rarely beat the market.

The House and Snatched are both wild cards. It's hard to predict which comedies during the summer will break out in advance, critical reception and WoM make or break them. I also want to go lower with Homecoming but there's a chance it breaks out where I'd be in the red by going any lower. 1) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 - 400m 2) Wonder Woman - 315m 3) Despicable Me 3 - 285m 4) Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales - 250m 5) Spider-Man: Homecoming - 231.2m 6) Dunkirk - 227.8m 7) Cars 3 - 202m 8) War of the Planet of the Apes - 170m 9) Transformers: The Last Knight - 165m 10) Baywatch - 144.2m 11) The Mummy - 128.3m 12) The House - 114.8m 13) Captain Underpants - 112m 14) Alien: Covenant - 110.4m 15) Snatched - 85.4m

Yeah, look at the writing for shows like Game of Thrones or Stranger Things versus The Big Bang Theory. More episodes =\= more work

Some (or many) of these choices are way out of the blue.

Part A: 1. Will The Circle Open to more than $10M? YES 2. Will Sleight Open to more than $5M? YES 3. Will How to be a Latin Lover open to more than $5M? NO 4. Will One Week and a Day have a PTA above $4000? NO 5. Will Sleight and How to be a Latin Lover combined Saturday gross be higher than The Circle's Friday gross? YES 6. Will Fate of the Furious drop less than 55% YES 7. Will Born in China drop more than 47% NO 8. Will Fate of the Furious be in number one by at least $10M? NO 9. Will Ghost in the Shell drop more than 65% YES 10. Will Beauty and the Beast have a better weekend drop than Boss Baby? YES 11. Will any new opener increase more than 20% on Saturday? YES 12. Will Smurfs drop more than 30% on Sunday? NI 13. Will Power Rangers increase more than 140% on Friday? YES 14. Will Get Out increase more than 15% on Saturday? YES 15. Will an Untitled Cyber Thriller Directed by Michael Mann make $100M in China? IN TELE'S HEART IT EILL Bonus: 9/15 5000 10/15 8000 11/15 12,000 12/15 16,000 13/15 20,000 14/15 24,000 15/15 30,000 Part B: The top 3 predictions will score points as follows: Closest: Within 1% - 15,000, Within 2,5% - 12000, Within 5% 9,000, Within 10% - 6000 Outside 10% - 3000 points 2nd Closest: Within 1% - 12,000, Within 2,5% - 10000, Within 5% 7,000, Within 10% - 4000 Outside 10% - 2000 points 3rd Closest: Within 1% - 10,000, Within 2,5% - 8000, Within 5% 5,000, Within 10% - 2000 Outside 10% - 1000 points 1. What will The Circle make for its 3 day OW? 10.5m 2. What will Beauty and the Beast's Sunday gross be? 1.8m 3. What will Life's PTA be for the 3 day weekend? $500 Part C: There will be 6 films to place and points are expanded because traditionally people haven't scored well here: 2. The Circle 5. The Promise 7. How to be a Latin Lover 10. Unforgettable 12.The Lost City of Z 15. The Case for Christ Because I realised bonuses are stupid... 1/6 4,000 2/6 10,000 3/6 18,000 4/6 25,000 5/6 36,000 6/6 - 50,000

PART A: 1. King Arthur - $67M LOWER 2. Lowriders - $15.3M LOWER 3. Snatched - $85M HIGHER 4. Diary of a Wimpy Kid - $32M LOWER 5. Everything Everything - $26M LOWER 6. It Comes at Night - $39M LOWER 7. Captain Underpants - $93.5M HIGHER 8. All Eyes on Me - $49M HIGHER 10. Cars 3 - $180M HIGHER PART B: 1. Which film not called Lowriders will be the lowest grossing? Everything, Everything 2. Which non-animated film will be the highest grossing? Snatched 3. Will a non-animated film on that list make the main games Domestic Top 15 list? Yes 4. Will any film double its predicted gross? No 5. Will any film fail to reach half of its predicted gross? Yes 6. Will the actual combined total gross for the 10 films be higher or lower than the predicted total gross? Lower 7. Percentage wise, what will be boxoffice.com's best prediction? Snatched 8. Percentage wise, what will be boxoffice.com's worst prediction? Everything, Everything 9. Will 3 or more of these films open in the number 2 position? No 10. Will 2 or more of these films open in 5th or lower? Yes

Week 1: Yes

The Dark Tower is looking to risky now to take

Can this thread reach 1000 pages before it evens starts filming? I'm sure it has at least 4-5 years to do so.

Yeah, because it was only going to get continually delayed regardless.

From a TV perspective though missing your fall season (or simply having a really bad one) could sink the show. That's a big difference this time around. Movies, you can dig up some unused scripts, eat some losses for delaying a few productions, and overall be fine. With so many scripted TV Shows, a struggling TV industry already, and little reality TV to fallback on, these are some pretty heavy short term losses to eat.

From the studio perspective, they'd be better off financially by just giving them the 300m.

I wasn't that aware of everything going on with this, hopefully the negotiations go well.

I understand the purpose, but they seem to skipping the negotiation first step.

I'm not so sure how much I support shutting down industries with a strike. When the WGA strikes is hurts everyone's job in the industry. Unless writers are really getting bad ends of the stick.

Ugh.