Ando918

When thinking about how some of the megabudget summer movies have disappointed financially so far, does anybody think this is a sign of Spielberg's prediction last summer about the implosion of the film industry? Or is this just a few bad apples, but everything will be back to normal with Mockingjay and then next summer's megabudget movies? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/13/spielberg-movie-industry_n_3435818.html

Sweet! Dragon 2 is finally going to beat 22 Jump on a weekend! This calls for some epic celebration music.

Dragon 2 really needs to beat 22 Jump this weekend either in the 3-day totals or the 5-day totals, just as a matter of dignity and pride. 4th of July weekend would assume lots of families and kids together for parades, fireworks, etc., so it should do it. Probably 9 million for Dragon and 8.5 for 22 Jump over the 3 day. If Dragon loses to 22 Jump for the 4th weekend in a row, then it is basically time to say there is no hope for the human race.

Today, everyone should take a moment to have a small moment of silence or moment of reflection to honor little How to Train Your Dragon 2 - as this is the final day that it will be ahead of Transformers 4 in the domestic standings. Love it, honor it, cherish it, and enjoy this day while you can. (*sniffle, sniffle*) http://boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?view=widedate&view2=domestic&yr=2014&p=.htm

Hey, where is the moderator here? Where is the warning for attacking people personally? Telemachos?

There are about 7 billion people on planet Earth. If a movie makes roughly a billion dollars, with a ticket price averaging around 9 dollars or so, that means that it sold about 100 million tickets. Some of those people saw it twice, so maybe we are talking about 60, 70, 80 million people on the planet seeing a Transformers sequel. What percentage is 70 million people out of 7 billion people?

Kind of reminds me of when we used to have terrible horror movies get 6, 7, 8, or 9 sequels - whether it was Friday the 13th or Freddy Krueger, or whomever else. The difference with Transformers is that the cult following is just much larger. But it still a cult following.

TF4's Flixster score is down to 60%. Not good word of mouth. But then again, that didn't stop the last couple of TF movies from having legs. Some of the diehards may decide to see it 2 or 3 times. I think the Flixster scores of numbers 2 and 3 are close to a terrible 50% or so.

Too bad for Dragon 2 in its 3rd weekend. Dreamworks made a really daring, bold, and original story with this one. Guess kids are just used to silly comedies with nonstop, frenetic action. Dragon 2 is probably 75% serious drama and 25% comedy, when the typical animated movie is the other way around.

Finally got around to seeing Dragon 2. The director is attempting to make something really challenging for kids with the complex morality of something like "Saving Private Ryan" and he knocks it out of the park. Impressed by how little action there is in the first hour and how he just lets atmosphere linger, even if kids grow a little bored by the lack of action. He doesn't care if the kids get bored, because in the last 15 minutes he will knock you out of your seat with intensity. Great effort by this guy, Dubois.

I think the fact that 52% of ticket buyers are women has more to do with the fact that moms are more like to be stay at home parents and take their kids somewhere, like take them to the movies. Not that dads don't do that as well, and not that some dads are not stay at home dads, but women do that more often, just like taking their kids along with them when they go shopping. I would bet that the tickets for animated/family movies skew slightly female because of this.

Is there any actual numbers evidence that displays regional geography? Similar to the under 25/over 25 or male/female statistics.

Is there any evidence from the numbers reports that TF4 is doing well in The South, like Texas, for example? I'm just thinking with all of the American flags Bay places in his shots - the flag plays very well in Texas - lots of military bases and such. Other southern states, too. Lots of trucks and cars - that plays well in NASCAR land, too.

Sorry if I was personally insulting TF4 fanboys on here over the past 2 days. I was attempting to attack Michael Bay and the crap he continously makes, and it is a very blurry line to cross where that becomes personally attacking the audiences who goes to see the movies.

So to those who pay to go see a Transformers sequel even though they aware that it will be a bad experience overall...is it kind of like making the effort to go on a roller coaster at the amusement park a couple of times, even though you know the bathrooms will be extremely filthy and smelly, traffic near the parking lot will be awful, little kids near you will be crying nonstop, someone might pick your pocket and steal your wallet, etc...but in the end you still feel it is worth it?

Rather than complain that we aren't having any movies this year making 300 domestic (other than Mockingjay), we should probably spend more time celebrating that a tiny budget movie like Fault in Our Stars was even released during summer and did very well, beating the totals of dumb studio movies like "The Other Woman" and such. And celebrating that Sandler went down again.

Just wondering, and I don't mean this at all in an insulting way, but why are so many people here upset that this summer doesn't have a movie with a huge domestic or worldwide total yet? Catching Fire and Frozen weren't that long ago, and Captain America 2 did great considering its budget. Shouldn't we want movies to be as good as possible? Do we really want mediocre movies to make 350 domestic? I'm fine with having a bunch of really good, entertaining, smart movies making less money as individual movies. Hollywood needs to get its budgets down to more reasonable levels anyways, so this is fine.

But he probably would not make it rated R. He'd go with a PG -13 to appeal to his fan base, so he would just end using the word "b*tch" about 100 times in the movie. Lots of flexing biceps would be in the film, too. [mod edit]

Sweet! I am hoping for 89.9! Then, after this movie is out of the way Michael Bay will finally be able to start working on his "Jersey Shore" movie, where the characters spend the entire movie swearing, going clubbing, and starting fights with people.

Seems like movies in general seem to be having longer than neccessary run-times, and I think that is a bad thing. Maybe it started with Peter Jackson and The Rings/King Kong. Each of those should have been 2:15 instead of 2:50. We also had the Pirates movies that went 2:30 when they only needed to go 2 hours each. Not to mention lots of comedies that now run 2 hours, whether it is something like Wedding Crashers or Judd Apatow stuff. If you just want to be silly and make a comedy, that's fine. Just make it 90 minutes and get out of there. Naked Gun comedies used to be 85 minutes.

Yeah, makes sense. I just looked up the first one's OW and it only made 70. Adjust that into today's dollars and it maybe becomes 75 OW. So that is what the movie actually started with. I could see this OW dropping quite a bit from the projection of 100 million, though, simply because of the very poor reviews, and some series fatigue.

So is the general consensus here that the 15% RT and 31 Metacritic scores are not going to affect TF4's OW at all? Or will they be enough of a smack to bring the OW down to 90 million?

Whatever, Gitesh. It will end up doing 190-210 domestic with all of the summer weekdays ahead.

There must be a serious embargo on Transformers reviews to only have 8 of them on RT so far. Normally, by late Wednesday there will be about 25 there. The reviews must be pretty bad to keep holding more of them back until Friday. I am going to guess that the final RT score will be 33%.

So is TF4 makes around 100 million domestic this weekend there are 2 different ways we can look at that. 1) It was an enormous hit amongst the general public or 2) Given that a ticket for that kind of movie averages about $8.75, that means that about 11 million Americans went to see it. There are 325 million Americans, so only 3-4% of Americans actually bothered to see it. I choose to look at the numbers this way to make myself feel better.