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I agree. This is of course subjectively perceived but I liked the first movie way more than I thought and I don't want to ruin that impression. And the uncreative IO2 trailers where they only add some negative (cliché) emotions aren't helpful to change my mind.

Not sure about the rest yet but IO2 IMO could disappoint. Reminds me of the The Fall Guy situation. Why are people here so convinced that this movie will become a hit? The posters look bad and the trailer that I saw at IMDb is absolutely not helpful IMO too: A happy girl adds only negative feelings as a teen, why not also the positive ones? Sounds to me like a social media construct. And most of all, WHO wants to see that?

Accidentally I deleted my almost completed The Strangers: Chapter 1 report so again the shorter version: It had today counted for Thursday 360 sold tickets (in 7 theaters). Best sales in LA and NY. Up very nice 67.5% since Monday. Average from 9 comps (Knock at the Cabin, The Forever Purge, The Invitation, Barbarian, Smile, M3gan, Abigail, Tarot and Prey for the Devil): 1.9M (up 0.3M since Monday). A nice surprise.

Back to Black, counted today for Thursday, had 64 sold tickets (in 5 theaters, no shows in my AMCs in NY and Texas ). Comps: Respect (650k from previews) had (also without the AMC in NY) 97 sold tickets (but a very good jump till Thursday) = 450k. Very probably BtB won't have the same jump and the comp will go down till tomorrow. And I Wanna Dance with Somebody (730k) finally had (also without the AMC in NY) 147 sold tickets = 300k + 1 day left for Back to Black. Average tomorrow will probably be around 400k.

I agree, that's a tougher sell. I did only read some of the reviews and one critic (fresh tomatoe) wrote that some children will probably wonder why their parents are so touched. When I read the user reviews at IMDb, I started to wonder if maybe parents will like the film better than their kids. Let's see if this film will be rather considered as "touching" or "too dark".

I hope the score will go up and that the audience likes the film. But once again it's annoying that several members immediately jump on the bandwagon, "this film is bad, will flop". Almost nobody here has seen it so far.

Of course I hope they will be good but the most important factor are the moviegoers ;). Migration got good reviews from critics but far from stellar ("only" 72% at RT e.g.) and the audience score at RT is 88%. The user reviews at IMDb for IF are positive so far (12:1).

The Strangers in detail: It had yesterday for Thursday 215 sold tickets in 6 theaters (so far no shows in the AMC in Texas). Best sales in LA followed by NY. Comps (all counted on Monday of the release week for Thursday): Thanksgiving (1M from previews) had 184 sold tickets = 1.15M. The Invitation (775k) had 96 = 1.75M. Abigail (1M) had 171 = 1.25M. Tarot (715k) had 97 = 1.6M. Prey for the Devil (660k) had 115 = 1.25M. And The Forever Purge (1.3M) had 104 = 2.7M. Average: 1.6M. From what I saw, it had an ok jump till today but the jump till Wednesday will be way more important. But so far, decent presales.

Details tomorrow but the most interesting counting today was indeed that for The Strangers: Chapter 1 which had 215 sold tickets for Thursday (in 6 theaters). I saw that this movie is also called The Strangers 3 so probably it has a fan base which could explain the quite good presales but the comparison number from several other horror films was 1.6M today. So pretty close to the number of @katnisscinnaplex.

IF, counted today for Friday, had 201 sold tickets. Up so-so 116% since last Monday. I chose Jungle Cruise, Dolittle, Elemental, Minions 2 and Sonic 2 as comps (always counted on Monday of the release week for Friday) and the true Friday number for IF would be 6.6M at the moment. In this case the comparison numbers were very similar, around 6-7M. Overall it was a boring counting today which lasted too long for so few action. And judging from some random samples Garfield also saw no significant jumps (I also didn't expect much, it's still too early IMO).

IF, counted today for Thursday had 274 sold tickets. Up 92% since last Monday. I hoped for a bit better jump till today but it's also not too bad. The very uneven and therefore not very trustworthy comps (all counted on Monday of the release week for Thursday) Migration (1.5M from previews) had 111 sold tickets = 3.7M. Lyle (575k) had 49 = 3.2M. Dolittle (925k) had 156 = 1.6M. And Wonka (3.5M) had 857 sold tickets = 1.1M (this comp went slightly up - last Monday it were 0.9M for IF). Average: 2.4M.

Not the smartest move for sure. At least they have 3/4 weeks till Inside Out 2 starts. New numbers in a few hours (for Thursday and Friday) but IF had yesterday for Friday 163 sold tickets. So also for that day no big numbers but up 75% since last Monday (and the jump must have happened pretty recently because before, almost no additional ticket was sold). Best presales for that day in the AMC Fresh Meadows in NY followed by the AMC Metreon in San Francisco.

The Monday update from insidekino.de: #1 Garfield 205k #2 Planet of the Apes 160k (#1 from $) - so admissions-wise no change, I also expected the number to increase with a 2.2M opening #3 The Fall Guy 77.5k/292.5k #4 Chantal 52.5k/2.435M #5 Challengers 35k/200k

IF had today counted for Thursday 248 sold tickets. Up 73.5% since Monday (where it had 143 sold tickets). Best sales in California, not doing too bad between the coasts. I said last Monday that I hope that its sales will double or triple within one week (= till tomorrow). But 2-3 days later almost nothing had happened sales-wise and I started to worry a bit. So the number today is ok to me and maybe some other members see a little improvement soon too. Maybe it reaches at least 100% in my theaters till tomorrow. I saw that the user reviews on imdb are all (very) good so far (it's e.g. mentioned that the film is also for adults and has depth). Comps (all counted on Monday of the release week for Thursday which means IF has 1 day left): Migration (1.5M from previews) had 111 sold tickets = 3.35M + 1 day left. Lyle (575k) had 49 = 2.9M + 1 day left. Dolittle (925k) had 156 = 1.45M + 1 day left. And Wonka (3.5M) had 857 sold tickets = 1M + 1 day left (last Monday it were 0.9M & zero days left). Average (that number could change quickly because of the for that genre typical pretty low presales): 2.175M + 1 day left.

Appendix: As reported, Furiosa had yesterday 1.310 sold tickets and after ca. 1-2 days on sale 1.138 sold tickets (in 7 theaters). Rough comps (always with tickets on sales for 1-2 days and always counted for Thursday, I take the 1.138 sold tickets): (The Exorcist: Believer (2.9M from previews) had 268 sold tickets = 12.3M, of course not realistic.) Monkey Man (1.4M; 22 days left) had 252 sold tickets = 6.3M. Dune (5.1M; after 1 day and in 5 theaters - the AMCs in Texas and Michigan were still missing) had 1.038 sold tickets = 5.6M. The Creator (1.6M; 19 days left) had 327 sold tickets = 5.5M. And Dune 2 (12M but with EA shows, therefore no comparison number) had in 7 theaters 1.435 sold tickets. Average (without Exorcist 2): 5.8M.

The final trend from insidekino.de - expected: #1 Garfield 215k #2 Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes 160k #3 The Fall Guy 80k #4 Chantal 52.5k #5 Challengers 35k #6 Back to Black 25k

Tomorrow or at least on Monday I will be less lazy but Furiosa continues its strong performance in "my" theaters. The movie yesterday had already 1.310 sold tickets (for Thursday, May 23). Up 15% in ca. 24 hours which isn't bad at all after the first rush. 13 days left. So it's already comfortably in front of The Fall Guy's final sales (it had 1.071 counted on Thursday for Thursday) and almost on par with Civil War's final sales (1.357) and also the Apes finally had not more than 1.657 sold tickets in my theaters.

No, because the posted admission numbers are already including the previews :(. So both new movies start below expectations and have to develop nice legs. The next week/weekend will be crucial (if the weather indeed becomes worse).

The Saturday trend from insidekino.de - slightly better for the cat, worse for the apes: #1 Garfield 220k #2 Kingdom of the Apes 170k #3 The Fall Guy 90k #4 Chantal 60k #5 Challengers 40k #6 Back to Black 27.5k So far the weather is predicted to become (way) worse next weekend - so we could see some nice holds.

I also come here since (many) years and I agree that especially the weekend threads have become too negative. Also that it's the sport of a few members to say something bad every week about the performances of every film hurts the mood and overall this website a lot (also to attract new people although fortunately we have some new members who were undeterred). Other subforums are way better. The Apes Friday number is quite good, no? With an ok Saturday it will at least be in line with expectations, could even slightly overperform.

I only tracked it once where it was looking at least solid presales-wise, but later, sadly not much movement (which is in line with all other reports here). But the trailers and idea is cute and I also think it will find its audience. But it was very stupid to chose the week before the Garfield release (once again, is Hollywood completely out of touch now or what?).

I also can't complain about Furiosa's presales in my theaters, not at all. I don't know if I will be diligent enough to search for comps (movies where the tickets also went on sale 1-2 days ago, especially IMAX-related ones like Dune) because it's almost midnight here but it had ca. six hours ago already 1.138 sold tickets (in all of "my" 7 theaters) for May 23. 14 days left. A promising start. E.g. Civil War finally (= on Thursday of the release week for Thursday) had 1.357 sold tickets and The Fall Guy finally had 1.071 sold tickets.

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, counted today for today, had 1.657 sold tickets. Up decent 20% since yesterday. Best sales in California (597 & 427 sold tickets) but also doing decent in NY (357). A bit weak between the coasts and in the AMC in Florida (196) but still way more even sales than for e.g. The Fall Guy last week which finally had 127 sold tickets in NY and 534 sold tickets in the AMC in LA. Comps (all movies counted on Thursday of the release week for Thursday) The Fall Guy (2.35M from previews) had 1.071 sold tickets = 3.65M for Planet of the Apes. GxK (9.2M) had 2.015 = 82% (it reached my goal ^^) = 7.55M (I doubt that it will have the same walk-ups but nice number). JWD (18M) had 4.342 = 6.8M. Uncharted (3.7M) had 1.294 = 4.75. Civil War (2.6M) had 1.357 = 3.15. And BT (4.6M) had 1.508 sold tickets (I used the wrong number yesterday, on Wednesday it were only 1.238, but even better) = 5.05M. Average: 5.15M true Thursday (without EA). Could live with that result ;).

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, counted today for tomorrow, had 1.381 sold tickets. Up modest 12.5% since yesterday. Comps (all five films counted also on Wednesday for Thursday): JWD (18M from previews) had 3.821 sold tickets = 6.5M. Civil War (2.6M) had 1.130 = 3.2M. BT (4.6M) had 1.508 = 4.2M. The Fall Guy (2.35M) had 865 = 3.75M. Uncharted (3.7M) had 1.062 = 4.8M. And GxK ("worst case scenario" 9.2M) had 1 day later, on Thursday for Thursday, 2.015 sold tickets = 6.3M + 1 day left for the Apes. Average: 4.8M+ (+ because of the 1 day left compared to GxK). The jump could have been a bit bigger but the presale number is still very good and it could/should reach my goal of 80% of GxK by tomorrow. But I have to take into account that Planet of the Apes has worse jump(s) compared to GxK which jumped fine 40% between Tuesday and Thursday in my theaters. And because that normally continues, the gap between GxK and Apes would look bigger on Friday than what we will see tomorrow. In sum that means that the comparison number is actually a bit lower for Planet of the Apes than the number that I will report tomorrow (only compared to GxK, not the other comps).

Yes, no Early Access. I was also surprised. Of course I will count it tomorrow too. It still needs decent jumps but GxK finally (= on Thursday for Thursday) had 2.015 sold tickets. Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes could reach around 80% (that's my goal ). But will it have the same walks-ups?