Wrath

Thought I was gonna get slaughtered this weekend. And I did. And then I saw that everyone else did too and I felt better.

Eh. Still says "estimates". I'm still bitter over them changing the numbers on some of the smaller releases last week on Tuesday, almost a full day after they'd labeled them actuals (cost me 2,000 points in the competition).

Yeah, I find that kind of astonishing. I mean, there have been plenty of US-centric movie series that have done poorly overseas (Jason Bourne, every Star Trek movie ever, etc) but the sheer magnitude of Hunger Games' failure to connect to overseas viewers so far has been singularly impressive. The list of movies in recent years that have been box-office dominating runaway hits in the US and have then gone on to struggle to match their domestic total internationally is pretty short and the Hunger Games' movies feature very prominently. Maybe MJ1 is the movie where it finally breaks out. We'll see.

Well, I doubt anyone would stop your personal celebration but the festivities will not extend to the movie theaters.

If you don't want to know, don't open the spoiler. I'm just posting this so that I can see how good my prediction was (or bad). I think youre a little optimistic in 12 Angry Men even making the list at this point.

Spot on.

Mrs Wrath actually fell asleep during Moulin Rouge seeing it in the theater with friends, which I thought was pretty impressive.

Perhaps, but its not like theyre taking screens away from Avatar to show it. Given that its Halloween weekend, its hard to see what else would have been an obviously better call. They had to put *something* on the screens and the other options are all pretty underwhelming. It turned out to be a mistake but it was a worthwhile gamble.

Wow, estimating a ~-10% hold for Alexander for the weekend? Most impressive.

I don't really disagree, but its worth noting that some cuts of Shoah are 10+ hours long. Its not entirely fair to compare what's basically a mini-series with a ~2 hour long conventional movie.

Yeah, that seems about right, though US BO will presumably grow a bit over that period of time. Maybe 10%, ballpark, putting China in line to pass the US in BO in 2019 at just about the same time it passes the US in GDP which seems appropriate. The biggest issue China will likely face in this regard (and this is perhaps a bit Off-topic) is keeping the economy rolling along and stable. Iron ore and coal imports are down to being at best flat with 2013 and possibly starting to even dip down. On the other hand, the fall in oil prices has probably helped a lot. China just needs to hold it together until the baton gets passed, which is easier said than done. But so far, so good. So maybe ~585/95m for GotG total? That's better than I expected.

You're making the bricks sad. Though its a little hard to tell.

A Nolan movie with less than stellar reviews, anyway. Edit - Also, its been a *really* quiet last couple months. I suspect things will perk up again once Interstellar and BH6 are about to hit.

Halloween counts as the holiday season? I'll go by family member: - My 7-year old (girl) is dying to see BH6 then Annie (the 1982 version has been getting a ton of airtime around here lately) - My 11-year old (girl) is dying to see The Hobbit (she's going as Pippin for Halloween) then BH6 - My wife is dying to see Birdman - For me, I'll go with Hobbit. Interstellar was nipping at its heels, and BH6 behind it, but Interstellar's good but not great reviews are denting it slightly for me. So I'm going to say Birdman is now in 2nd place.

Yeah, this is a trend that's likely to just keep on going. Barring a really severe economic turnaround, I think China will surpass the US as the most important country for new movie releases in general by about 2020, and in certain areas its already happened.

I'm hoping we'll get through the top 20 without including anything I really object to. So far, so good.

Oh, I totally disagree. I thought the characters were all well developed and memorable, and seeing them all realize they're slowly sinking further and further into the web as they try to thrash their way out is nicely done.

1) Big Hero 6 OW vs Interstellar's best 2 days of its OW: *ABSTAIN* 2) Big Hero 6 Final Multiplier (against 3 day) vs Interstellar's final Multiplier (against 3 day) *ABSTAIN* 3) Percentage difference between Big Hero 6 final gross and Wreck it Ralph Final gross vs Precentage difference between Interstellar's final gross and Inception's Final Gross: **ABSTAIN* 4) Big Hero 6 2nd Weekend % drop vs Interstellar 2nd Weekend % drop *ABSTAIN* 5) Big Hero 6's weakest day of its OW vs Interstellars pre-Wide release IMAX total *ABSTAIN* 6) Big Hero 6 final total +150M vs Interstellar Final Total *BIG HERO 6*

Darn you, BoM, you're not supposed to change your actuals!

Ok, thanks. Works for me.

I totally agree that its a travesty. It should clearly be in the top 10. Which I know you didn't mean. But I do.

What's the definition of a "horror film" for the questions? Is Nightcrawler a horror film? How about Dracula?

Not at all. You'll see! Addicted is just about to rally up to $108m and we'll all be really impressed.

Xykon the Sorceror: "Ok, lets practice your big reveal line." Monster in the Dark: "Order of the Stick! Your broken corpses will taste delicious lightly seasoned with nutmeg!" X: "That's...that's what you're going with? As your big line? Your first impression?" MitD: "Not scary enough? Oh, I had another one... Order of the Stick! I will bath in your blood with some lavender bath gel and a good loofa!" X: "You know what? My bad. Just stick with the first one." MitD: "Oh, you liked it after all?" X: "No. I just lowered my expectations." Given the way things are going, I'm just happy that it looks like around half of my top 20 will make the list at all, and I'm hoping the top 10 are at least mostly movies that I included on my list at all.

"I'm going to die, surrounded by the biggest idiots in the galaxy."