George Parr

That says more about the developing of new markets than it does about the franchise though. Star Wars simply does not work in asia outside of Japan, which already was a big market when it first came out. That didn't really matter back then, because during the times of the OT and PT asia outside of Japan was basically irrelevant, but in this day and age it makes all the difference in the world. Outside of TFA, which got a boost from the enormous hype that created interest even in countries that didn't care for or knew about the franchise before, the movies aren't really behaving much differently than in the past. There is obviously some variation to it, but in general the main markets follow roughly the same results as before. The main difference then comes from these markets simply not carrying as much of a weight as in the past. You could just as well look at the share of the domestic market for the worldwide box office. It's obviously still huge, and the gross itself might increase at times as well, but the sahre is declining due to other markets, especially China, catching up.

That isn't really all that different from before. The other movies already had four day openings as well, plus the occasionaly market that always had a Wednesday start, like France. The only sizeable European market that Rogue One didn't start on Wednesday or Thursday on, was Spain. Japan got a Friday start, but that was like with TROS and all the other SW-movies, so no difference there. That leaves South Korea and China, which started later for Rogue One, and a handful of markets that normally started with 4 days + previews but now ended up with 5 whole days instead. In other words, if you just want to go with the 3-day weekend, which would be a bit weird because many of the markets always count more days than that, you would need to do the same for Rogue One as well. Doesn't mean that TROS will handily best Rogue One, but so far its numbers are still clearly ahead of it.

Yeah, but that deadline quote isn't really supported by the data coming fron the countries. Japan seems to be doing well, and Germany might actually pull through in the end as well (though starting a day earlier makes comparisons tough), but all the other core markets haven't shown any sign of improving over TLJ. In most cases they are quite a bit behind right now. Exchange rates seem to fall on the weaker side as well, which might make matching TLJ even tougher.

I don't think that this is really the case. Most of the openings in its core markets seem to be of somewhat similar scale if not smaller than for TLJ. Maybe some of that gets countered by some nations getting an earlier release than before (e.g. starting Wednesday instead of Thursday), but other than that there isn't much of a reason to be all that all that optimistic about improving on TLJ. Even matching it sounds rather optimistic at this point.

I think there are better options, like the one TFA had. This one suffers from leaving the holiday-period before even entering the third weekend. I would put christmas eve falling on Tuesdays as the third best at best, behind it falling on Thursday and Wednesday. This one might give maybe a tiny bit better boost for the upcoming week, but it is weaker when you look at the holidays as a whole.

Pretty simple: record breaking numbers plus excellent reception everywhere. This created curiosity in newer markets as well. Not to mention a big marketing push by Disney. The whole thing started off big due to hype, and then fell flat right away. TFA wasn't popular at all, neither was Rogue One, thought that one got at least a bit of a boost due to starring two chinese actors. Everything that followed already suffered from that, and didn't do anything to reverse course on the opinion of the franchise either.

He didn't. He worked on some pre-visualization stuff. The movie itself was entirely done by Lucas. Not that him directing a few scenes could in any way realistically be the reason why it was better liked than the others.

I'm surprised that the trend for TROS is still this big. All the numbers posted for the sales don't really seem to hint at such a high total. I mean, it would be awesome if the trends turned out to be true. It would make Germany a rather positive outlier as well, which is rather rare these days. But I don't think it will actually be the case.

They really loved making direct-to-video sequels of their big successes back then. I really have no idea why. Aladdin had two sequels like that, as did Beauty and the Beast and Lion King. Little Mermaid, The Hunchback of Notre Dame and 101 Dalmatians got another movie as well.

Not quite sure why you put this into the international box office section, it seems you'd get more answers in the domestic box office discussion That being said, this has very little chance of dropping 70%. TLJ didn't, and that one did indeed suffer from christmas eve falling on Sunday. It seems unlikely to drop even worse than that when there is nothing to artifically lower the intake.

No they aren't. There's a score for how much you like it, and another one about whether you would recommend it to your friends. They are two seperate things. A definite recommend is the hightest rating you can give on the recommend chart (followed obviously by recommend, etc.) The Horror of Lucas Films highlighted the wrong numbers anyway. The general audience sat at 89% positive, which is basically identical with the other ones,

Definately need to see it again (which I will today). So far iI think t is good, it has some great banter, the fights are good (but I don't have them particularly close to the top for Star Wars fights), but I think the movie left quite a bit of potential behind. Ideas that could have been great but only ended up being decent to good due to how they were used. Some characters were somehow well done but at the same time could have done much better, it's hard to describe. I'm not the biggest fan of JJ Abrams' take on going over the top with things though. There is a point were that kind of stuff can work, but I think he uses it too often and in many ways does it too over the top. It's funny when you compare it to The Mandalorian. They pace couldn't be more different, completely different style as well. And I feel at this point I'm leaning more towards the slower approach and more grounded stuff.

Why would it be alarming? The last Jumanji was an unexpected surprise hit. It's perfectly normal for a franchise to come down afterwards. It happens all the time. Look at The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises. There was a drop of 87m or so domestically. No one considered that to be a failure or alarming. When you move way past even your wildest imaginations, there is only one way left, and that is down. After all, you reached an audience that normally wouldn't have come, and there are bound to be plenty of people who either didn't like that movie or simply do not get hyped for another one. And who knows, the holidays are still to come. It's not like 300m is a fixed limit that couldn't possibly be beaten under any circumstances.

That sounds like a likely target. I could see it ranging from 1.2 to 1.4b right now. For some reason I can't really find a way for this to make 700m domestically though. TLJ made about 100m after the holidays. Lets say this has slightly better legs than that and it makes 120m instead. This means it would need to make about 580m in its first 17 days, some of which are already outside the holidays. That seems like a very tough mark to reach.

I don't see what's supposed to be wrong about the comment you quoted. It did in fact state that Marvel in on top right now. Most Marvel movies didn't come close to reaching a 200m OW though. It were only the Avengers movies (not even all of them) plus Black Panther, due to its unique circumstances. That was the entire point. Marvel is at its peak right now, but even that doesn't mean that it handily tops 200m on opening weekend, it only does so for its most important movies, while the rest is very much in a league below that. Which can also be seen in the domestic totals, where beyond its main movies it's just starting to top the 400m mark. There is a clear difference in expectation between the world beaters that were the Avengers movies (+ Black Panther) and everything else. Thus the idea that future Star Wars movies should not be expected to match the Skywalker-saga either, and that Rogue One like figures would very much be a good outcome, just like Marvel-movies are doing extremely well even if they aren't coming close to matching the Avengers movies. If you look at the domestic side, Rogue One still comes in 100m ahead of the best "2nd tier" Marvel movies. Getting into that range with future movies would be a very good result, even if it meant a noticeable drop from the saga.

Are there all that many examples of that though? This particular schedule happened in 2013 and 2002. In 2013 there was one noticeable movie in its second weekend, Anchorman 2, which dropped 25%. In 2002 there was TTT, which dropped 21%, but that one already started on a Wednesday, so its actual drop was lower than it would have been if it had started on Friday. There was also Two Weeks Notice, which was a rom-com, which increased to 15.5m, but that's a completely different range, and a completely different scenario. Everything else was just too small to matter. With movies nowadays being far more frontloaded than they were even back then, and the impact of previews, the drops should be quite a bit larger, especially with that much of a difference in terms of size. For simplicities sake, lets assume 45m previews and 200m OW. A 40% drop from that would give 120m, good enough for third best second weekend all time. The past drops listed above did not have any previews, or at least none for the OW itself, so that is something you need to take into account. The actual weekend itself would give 155m for the opening. To reach the 120m, you would need a drop of about 22.5% from the 155m weekend. So pretty much the drop TTT had while not actually dropping from a regular OW. That seems rather unlikely to achieve. It's the holidays, and we have zero idea how the movie will be received, so who knows what happens, but a drop of 40% or better would seem rather surprising to me.

Decent episode with some cool stuff in it, but overall I think that just like chapter 4 this one falls short of the first few episodes. It didn't really do much to move things forward.

A rise on weekend 5 seems highly unlikely. It is not part of the holidays yet. Frozen didn't manage to increase on that weekend back in 2013 either. Fack ju Göhte! did increase, but it was the only movie. And back then it was the weekend after The Hobbit 2 started, while this time around it is the weekend Star Wars starts, which will capture most ofthe audience and get the largest screens, meaning there was a better chance for a good hold back then than there is now due to how the competition is scheduled (dropping from facing a huge opener to dropping against a huge opener). Weekend six could see an increase though. Almost everything improved or had a tiny drop, even with two pretty big starts happening at the same time. Frozen's 7th weekend was below but at least broadly in the same range as the 5th weekend. Most movies were down quite a bit from the 5th and obviously even more from the 6th weekend. Apart from Fack ju Göhte! which was pretty close to its 6th weekend and above its 5th one. With Frozen 2 being a sequel, and burning off more demand right now, it might just see a bump on weekend 6 before dropping below weekend 5 on weekend 7 again.

So, the second trend is up at insidekino. Though the comment about Frozen 2 is basically ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Could be 1.85m 5-day if based on the multipliers of other animated movies, or it could be lower than expected due to the good weather or the question about capacities. For now that means: same trend as before. #1 Frozen 2: 1.45m (5-day) #2 Geheimnis: 375k #3 Last Christmas: 100k #4 Joker: 85k #5 Ford vs. Ferrari: 65k #6 Zombieland: 55k #7 Depeche Mode: 45k #8 Doctor Sleep: 45k #9 Recep Ivedik 6: 35k

Mhm, very good episode, but I kind of felt it a bit lacking compared to the second one. Which is rather weird considering it had quite a bit more story. But who knows, maybe that's just the difference between a ton of Baby Yoda and just a bit of baby Yoda Never really cared much about the Mandalorians as a clan either, especially of the animated shows variety (or worse, what they made out of them in the books). Preferred them more the way they were in KOTOR (games and comic), which might be why the finale was more "looks pretty cool" than "OMG, amazing!!!1!" to me. Then again, it should play really well to those who liked them in Clone Wars and Rebels.

Right... And when they don't agree on whether a movie or show is good or not, the hive-mind mentality has suddenly disappeared? There simply is no logic behind what you are saying. Either they act like a hive-mind or they don't, it can't be one way whenever it fits your narrative and another way whenever it doesn't. Not to mention that it is kind of hard fro critics to follow a specific narrative if they don't have access to what other critics are writing yet. To follow a narrative, said narrative needs to have been set first. Something that could only be true for those critics who come in late. But even for those it requires quite the believe into conspiracy theories to think that they are all merely following a trend that has been set. The whole idea is weird to begin with. It's like saying chocolate or ice cream are unlikely to taste good because so many people love them.

I guess they were kind of in a pickle when it comes to that character. On the one hand, it is so cute you could probably sell more toys from it than from the rest of the franchise combined. On the other hand, you couldn't really make lots of toys of it without the whole thing getting out early, ruining the surprise. I don't think the force has been presented in a different way in any of the new stuff so far. There is no difference between TFA, TLJ and this, as the things that get told don't contradict each other. They are all merely different elements from the same thing. Just like the force wasn't really any different in the OT and PT, they merely spoke out in the PT what the OT already implied.

I don't know, isn't that quite the stretch for "almost two years"? Solo started in late May, and you wouldn't really see any results that allowed to judge where the movie was heading until the second weekend, so early June. That would be 1 year and 5 months ago. It's not out of the realm of possibility to define that as almost two years, though it would feel rather odd to do so. Especially when you add that it takes some time to make decisions and get someone to sign up, which should reduce the timeframe even further. Of course it is possible that he signed up after Solo came out and is stretching the timing a bit so as to not make it look as if it was connected to how that movie was doing (no idea why they would opt for that though). Or they looked at presales and figured out that the movie wasn't going to be as big as they hoped and thus made this change before it even came out. Or it doesn't have anything to do with the release of Solo and they decided that this project worked better as a tv-show for its own sake

Bohemian Rapsody only had a single day in October, its actual opening weekend came in November. Not sure if that really counts as an October start. If you are looking for the biggest total of a movie that started in October, that would be Fack ju Göhte 3 with 53m €. Forrest Gump also had 40m+ Euro if you applied the exchange from DM to Euro. Ratatouille made 34m, slightly besting BR as well. Not quite sure to how much money the 6.8m admissions of 7 Zwerge translates to, Harry Potter came in at about 40m Euro with 6.6m admissions, but that movie probably had a higher average ticket price. Still, 7 Zwerge has a realistic shot of being ahead of BR as well. As for movies with a 16-rating: the first and second Matrix movies had basically an equal admissions total, 4.78m to 4.77m. Though I don't think either translates to 30m+ Euro. Movies simply have become much more expensive since then. The highest total in terms of Euro should probably belong to Fifty Shades of Grey, with 38.6m € from 4.4m admissions.

Blaming FB 2's drop on Johnny Depp is absurd to say the least. Not only was there no negative reaction to him - on the contrary, he was well received - but it would be absolutely moronic to change the actor of your main villain right in the middle of the story without having any proper way to explain it in the movie. Maybe it's you who didn't learn anything from the second movie, because Depp should be the least of their worries.