Jake Gittes

That's not art's job.

Support the Girls and Widows are fine interracial friendship stories. True Detective season 3 has an interracial partnership spanning decades and believably gives its two leads both friendly and racism-charged antagonistic moments, because, unlike Green Book, it 1) knows that in the real world racism is much more deep-rooted than something you can just "learn" not to have, and 2) is more concerned with making its characters interesting rather than likable.

He's cultured and intelligent, and yet somehow without the ignorant white guy he can't do shit. Can't eat fried chicken without his help, can't know who Aretha Franklin is without his help, can't have a gay fling without having to get rescued by him, can't even make his own decision about whether to play or not in the end without him. Now ain't that convenient? The problem isn't that that a racist realizes the error of his ways and changes. The problem is that in execution it's once again hokey fairytale bullshit. Tony Lip, a middle-aged man, starts the movie fucking tossing glasses black men drank from in the garbage, but it takes just a few days on the road for him to magically get cured of that bigotry and the movie never, ever presses him about it all while it undermines and questions nearly every aspect of Shirley's identity and lifestyle, all the way up until he's finally dragged down to Tony's level. And it's not actually that hard to depict a sympathetic, interesting interracial friendship or partnership, where both characters get respected. All it takes is understanding the line between the larger world treating your characters as not equal, and you as a creator doing the same.

04:12-04:22 is about the fried chicken in Green Book. And 05:00-05:16 gets at what's fundamentally bullshit about it.

sure. green book screenplay is garbage. the favourite's is not.

No. An Oscar win has never had a significant effect on an animated holiday release. It should top out right below 190.

Best Picture 1. The Hurt Locker 2. 12 Years a Slave 3. Spotlight 4. The Artist 5. Moonlight 6. Argo 7. The King's Speech 8. Birdman 9. The Shape of Water 10. Green Book Best Director 1. Kathryn Bigelow 2. Alfonso Cuaron (Gravity) 3. Damien Chazelle 4. Michel Hazanavicius 5. Alejandro G. Inarritu (The Revenant) 6. Alfonso Cuaron (Roma) 7. Alejandro G. Inarritu (Birdman) 8. Ang Lee 9. Tom Hooper 10. Guillermo del Toro Best Actor 1. Daniel Day-Lewis 2. Casey Affleck 3. Jean Dujardin 4. Colin Firth 5. Matthew McConaughey 6. Gary Oldman 7. Leonardo Di Caprio Best Actress 1. Cate Blanchett 2. Natalie Portman 3. Olivia Colman 4. Emma Stone 5. Brie Larson 6. Frances McDormand 7. Jennifer Lawrence Best Supporting Actor 1. Christoph Waltz (Inglourious Basterds) 2. Christian Bale 3. Mark Rylance 4. J.K. Simmons 5. Christoph Waltz (Django Unchained) 6. Christopher Plummer 7. Mahershala Ali (Moonlight) 8. Mahershala Ali (Green Book) 9. Sam Rockwell 10. Jared Leto Best Supporting Actress 1. Patricia Arquette 2. Viola Davis 3. Lupita Nyong'o 4. Alicia Vikander 5. Anne Hathaway 6. Melissa Leo 7. Mo'Nique Best Original Screenplay 1. Django Unchained 2. Manchester By The Sea 3. Spotlight 4. Get Out 5. Her 6. Midnight in Paris 7. The Hurt Locker 8. The King's Speech 9. Green Book 10. Birdman Best Adapted Screenplay 1. Call Me by Your Name 2. The Social Network 3. BlacKkKlansman 4. 12 Years a Slave 5. Argo 6. Moonlight 7. The Big Short 8. Precious Best Animated Feature 1. Inside Out 2. Toy Story 3 3. Coco 4. Rango 5. Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse 6. Zootopia 7. Up 8. Big Hero 6 9. Frozen 10. Brave

I will have OPINIONS if that movie becomes a player.

Nope. You're free to feel old. And why do you keep saying "even Emma Stone" like she's usually an Abigail Masham in real life lol.

I only just got around to watching Colman's speech. Hadn't actually watched the ceremony I just kept refreshing wiki lol. And I ain't yet seen King in anything I'm afraid.

Olivia Colman is a light in the darkness.

The Deer Hunter had actual street protests against it on the night of the ceremony.

no one suggested that. pretty please, with sugar on top, learn to fucking read.

An actually really good, intelligent, non-pandering movie about a crude racist proud white man and a professional, dignified black man working together in the '60s Deep South was once made by a bunch of white people and won Best Picture. It's called In the Heat of the Night.

Imagine all these "unsubtle" posts if Sorry to Bother You had been a heavy contender.

But what if Glenn Close gets Gloria Swanson'd and loses to the 2020 analogue of Judy Holliday in Born Yesterday aka I dunno the lead girl in Spielberg's West Side Story?

Well the way this thread has gone is certainly worthy of the movie that won. We're in the "racism against white people!" territory now.

There's neither an acceptance between races in Green Book nor contention between races in BlacKkKlansman. The "acceptance" in the former is one-sided (my, isn't it nice that a racist uncouth white man accepted a black man, but not until after he's taught him how to better be black?) and the contention in the latter is with literal neo-Nazis.

He's not mad about losing, he's mad about the movie that won.

Not sure what I'd like more, for Spike to not even dignify this with a public response or for him to give the Academy all kinds of shit now that the circus is over.

If only it were a movie about, y'know, a friendship, and not a bigot heroically accepting one black guy.

well, now live with this, academy.

this still doesn't excuse the screenplay snub though

wow