Why is everyone in here freaking out? WB and Paramount are similar in a lot of ways. This isn't close to the disaster that was Disney buying FOX properties.
All of your beloved Paramount franchises would live on with WB.
There's been threads on here where movies simply 'underperformed' to expectations and the thread was 100 pages. You're surprised at two of the biggest bombs EVER getting a lot of discussion on a box office forum?
If Apple wanted prestige, despite how much money the production would cost, they got that back in spades. If 'Killers of the Flower Moon' doesn't do anything for award season then maybe these posts would make sense.
But I would bet KOTFW garnering several Oscar nominations.
You seem to be hung up on this idea so my question to you is how are you going to prove it? Apple didn't make these with box office in mind, they want subscribers for Apple+
The Creator looked really good for what the budget was. It was around $80M I think. It looked better than a lot of blockbusters with budgets that are three times that.
Here's the problem: Nobody went to see it.
I think the biggest lesson Disney needs to learn from this year is make better movies. We can talk in circles about politics, these movies have not been good. It's not just one side of the political aisle skipping these. Their RT scores are mid or awful, the audience scores are mid or awful, the WOM is generally poor. Make better movies and people will come.
People keep saying "video games are the next wave!" Yeah I mean it's possible, but Hollywood would have to be willing to go all in to make these work. Here's some games that are potential hit movies.
- Final Fantasy VII Live Action
- Red Dead Redemption
- Zelda
- Elder Scrolls Skyrim
- Metal Gear Solid
- Fallout
By the way, I'll wait for the official numbers but it looks to me like Hunger Games is doing quite well this month. I don't think you can compare it to the previous movies. It's a prequel without Katiness/Jennifer Lawrence to a franchise that has been dormant for some time and it's not like the reviews were glowing either... and yet it's performing pretty well for itself.
Anyone saying Hunger Games isn't doing well is being overly pessimistic.
I'm so tired of the "box office is dead" discussions, Happy Thanksgiving everyone by the way. Here's my problem with it.
If 'The Marvels' or 'Wish' were great movies with 85%+ RT from critics and 90% from audiences and an 'A' CS and all that and were still bombing then I would agree this is a horrible month.
But these movies STINK. What do you want from people? People are speaking with their wallets.