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I believe RT audience is the best estimate for that. The general public tends not to be the same as the random hair-stylist that has enough time to review movies on her blog, and should not necessarily be represented by her opinion. The damaging effect of RT is that many movies that have a different voice and creativity that can inspire specific people, even if not the whole population, are left unseen by those targets simply because they looked at a number on a website and never connected. Yeah, there are people who say they will not watch a movie because of a low RT score. Ever ask them if they wanted to watch the movie before the RT score dropped? Many will say yes. Imagine that chain reaction of creative ideas that could be passed on simply if that audience didn't ignore the movie due to how a movie didn't have the proper critic appeal. There are quite a few movies from the 70s, 80s, and 90s that would have had terrible RT scores, but they shaped a generation who have fond memories who were not turned away because RT did not exist.

You know what's a good way to figure out if a movie is good? Look at the trailer. Check out the previous performance of some of the cast. Read what it's about. Read an interview or some articles. And, back in the day, READ WHAT A GOOD CRITIC has to say about it. The number on RT is an accumulation of opinions that sometimes just bandwagon snowballs. Fancyhair.com gives a movie better praise or harsher criticism for the lead actors hairstyle and studentsedge spoils the whole movie in its review that's summed up as good or bad depending on if the reviewer had bladder issues during his viewing...Considering that people have different backgrounds and different tastes, each movie should have varying impact on you that should be considerably different from any critic. The worst part about RT is that it influences an audience's mindset prior to their movie experience. RT says its good? You automatically forgive many flaws in a film, probably not even noticing it because you went into the movie deciding it was already good. RT says its bad? You become hypersensitive to all its flaws. Also, as some have already pointed out, RT is actually a measure of a percentage of how many people find a movie to be okay enough not to give it a rotten tomato. What's more interesting is to see the films that have mid-level percentages, with average ratings above "fresh" films, and strikingly different audience ratings.

RT might have some influence, but so many other factors contribute and are even more influential. Certainly there are people who wait until they see an RT score before they watch a movie, but RT scores do no necessarily correlate with Box Office. Even with RT scores over 90, Lego Batman will not reach 200m and Logan will just get across. BatB with under 70 has the potential to make more than LB and Logan combined. I guess you could argue that an RT score of 91 or 92 isn't comparable to 99, but 97% Mad Max Fury Road was down to 14m by its third weekend and only got somewhat past 150m. One could argue Mad Max's performance against competition, not even taking 1st place in its first weekend due to losing out to 65% Pitch Perfect 2, then losing out to 50% Tomorrowland the following week and finally losing out to 48% San Andreas in its third week. San Andreas, btw, achieved a higher DOM and WW than Mad Max! Yes, RT has an effect. The argument is that RT's effect is overestimated by too many. Also, that whatever effect that RT has, it's a damaging one.

Universal is going to keep the lead until the fall which is when the strength of the WB line-up shows up and Warner will eventually take the lead until Star Wars. Star Wars by itself can make more than some of the Big 6 full line-up.

And Universal's major franchises have yet to debut. However, after Despicable Me, they don't seem to have any sure-fire hits till December. Something may surprise, though. Lionsgate also seems very front-loaded.

To be fair, who should he have listened to? Very few people were predicting 60 m OW, not even the Monsterverse Cheer squad on these forums. I thought Kong was being underestimated because of the consistent underestimation of the geriatric crowd, but not to this degree...

I'll contribute my 20 bucks.

Wow, this and Atomic Blonde have me pretty excited for this summer.

Legendary's golden goose shoots lightning and can only say "pika pika".

One could take the elder-draw approach, and certainly I agree that is the case for Kong, but Tarzan was about the abdomen cuz just from anecdotal evidence, the 30-50 YO women were at Tarzan vs the 40+ YO men at Kong. That said, I think Arthur can appeal to the women crowd...for some reason...

American Sniper?

He might have a point if we limit the success of a movie to just how it does in North America. People keep thinking this is such an important movie for WB to start a franchise in NA. However, this is Legendary's baby and it was supposed to have been Universal doing the distribution. Anyway, Legendary is most likely eyeing China. Other Legendary CGI flicks: The Great Wall 2017 NA: 42,571,085 China: 170,962,106 WW: 278,800,000 Budget: 150m Warcraft 2016 NA: 47,365,290 China: 220,841,090 WW: 433,677,183 Budget: 160m Jurassic World 2015 NA: 652,270,625 China: 228,740,000 WW: 1,670,400,637 Budget: 150 Godzilla 2014 NA: 200,676,069 China: 77,630,000 WW: 529,076,069 Budget: 160m Pacific Rim 2013 NA: 101,802,906 China: 111,940,000 WW: 411,002,906 Budget: 190m Welcome to the Pacific Age and and global capitalism...

Some explanations: Underestimating Kong and Tarzan: Balding people who can remember when they colored the B&W King Kong for an amazing new TV release have resources, still go to movie theaters, and have kids and grandkids to bring with them. They are unfortunately underepresented by an internet generation that thinks that their opinions are representative of EVERYBODY. X-Men Franchise having bad legs: Unlike the DCEU and the MCU, these characters are sort of in a limbo. Marvel fans still love them but want them incorporated back into the fold. There's a desire to see the movie by fans of those two franchises, but why go more than once when you can got to the team that you support seven times? Dog's Purpose in China: Chinese like cute things?

I get what you're saying. Gerard Butler is the 9th Bond, and Geostorm is secretly James Bond 25! So Geostorm is to Cellar and The Woods as James Bond 25 is to 10 Cloverfield Lane and Blair Witch. Announcement at comicon!

There's actually two women, but the other one is an Asian scientist, so very easy to overlook in a crowd of white testosterone. Also, the movie is set in the 70s, which still should be considered progressive but maybe not in the middle of nowhere in the South China Sea.

Legendary Pictures has the rights to Pikachu and the rest of the Pokemon. When those movies hit, you're talking Disney level...

Let me just say the characters weren't cardboard. They were all unique with different motivations. Of course it's not as deep as character studies in dramas or as well developed as in books or television series, but definitely strong for a 2 hour adventure. Again, it's not any worse than a super-hero or Jurassic Park movie. As for the story, a lot was spent to explain the monsters (because they can't speak for themselves), and to show the characterization. The story isn't bad; it's just not something super ground-breaking. It's what you would want from a monster movie. Also, you need a lot of time to showcase the action. For me, that's meh, but understandably that's probably what people want from these types of movies. A deviation from this probably would have dropped the ratings. Those asking for crazy Monster action with fun, identifiable, motivated characters...you got what you were asking for.

Legendary is the the studio behind Kong Skull Island anyway. Thomas Tull, is the producer, lol. This movie had its director, cast, and release date set while it was supposed to be a movie for Universal. It was moved to Warner right before the first set pics were released. Maybe if Universal distributed Kong it'd be a better movie... Btw, you'll notice Warner has been known to be a pretty bad studio since its 2014 announcement of basing itself off of its main franchises: DCEU, Wizarding World, and Lego. Nerds have been suppressed so long that they believe in survival of only one in their niche. So we got the Marvel v DC and to a lesser extent Pixar v every other animation studio. Franchise wars, right? I find it funny that so many people find so much pride in their ability to judge a movie by recognizing the logo that appears at the beginning of it. Or how much joy they take when the movies of "opposing" studios do poorly. I don't know how such things actually benefit their lives other than maybe giving them some feeling of security or superiority that they chose to be a bandwagon fan of a studio that makes the most money and is loved by the majority of the world? I guess the need for acceptance is higher up in Maslow's hierarchy and there are a lot of insecure nerds out there.

Went to a screening today. The majority of the crowd had thinning hair, bald spots, or no hair at all. Jurassic Park depended on Millennial nostalgia. Kong will have to work its Baby Boomer nostalgia. The audience cheered and clapped multiple times throughout the movie. The previews before it were Blade Runner 2049 and King Arthur. As for my impressions, I felt the story was very basic, but no worse than the likes of Jurassic World or any Marvel movie. The visuals were fantastic. The setting was fantastic We've got the whole Vietnam era vibe in a mysterious and beautiful landscape. IMO, Skull Island is the true star of the film, over the all-star cast and Kong himself. I thought the action was rather pedestrian, but again, no worse than the likes of Jurassic World. I guess what I'm trying to say is, this is basically Jurassic World with more adventure, action, and weirder monsters. Too bad it's looking to make 1/5 of JW.

Wow. Can't wait to see this.

I hope Legendary teams up with Lionsgate and puts the Power Rangers in the King Kong universe. Then these guys won't know how to feel about Power Rangers v King Kong.

People are waiting for 3/2/2017 to see what critics think of Beauty and the Beast? Why wait? https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/beauty_and_the_beast_1991 They loved it! As for Kong...idk...hopefully average of: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/apocalypse_now + https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/king_kong + https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/godzilla_2014

Absolutely. Beauty and the Beast is everywhere, so all eyes are on that movie, but I'm loving the trailers for just about every movie released in March. There's just a lot of awesomeness out there. Hopefully, we'll see record movie watching during Spring Break period.

It's cool. I'm actually more excited for Kong than any other super-hero movie too, but rest assured that you'll at least get four movies from this "monsterverse" for you and your kids to enjoy, even IF Kong makes 30 million DOM. Legendary is owned by Wanda now, and I'm pretty sure Kong will have an audience in China. Also, WB looks like it's crutch will be DC super-heroes, but I'm sure they know better to put all the eggs in one basket. Disney has always been a draw, and super-heroes are the fad genre now, but EVENTUALLY people have to get tired of the same stuff over and over again, right? Probably not, but hey, like I said, for sure you'll at least get four Monster movies. Also, WB will even throw in Meg and Rampage! Also, I suggest expanding your horizons and keep an open mind to non-franchise films and HBO, Netflix, Amazon, etc are coming up with amazing original content these days. Also, people here are just giving their opinion or just relaying facts that they are privy to. At least the trailer reactions have been positive and this movie is gaining some steam on social media. The few people who don't think it's too impressive here have far less influence than the product speaking for itself. Simply, at worst, the movie flops in North America and you only get two more movies from this franchise. Anything else is just icing on the cake. Hey, I've been waiting for Fantasy properties to be adapted, and besides Tolkien-verse, I have only seen disappointment. Also, because the several projects upcoming are WB Dungeons and Dragons, WB Bone, and Lionsgate Kingkiller Chronicle-verse, I'm sure the internet will greet them with doubt and negativity. Like I said though, the product has the largest voice and can speak for itself.

Dude, you're probably correct that there are some who are biased and are anti non-Disney or non-Super-hero franchise, or just hate everything Warner (even though this is mostly a Legendary project and was supposed to be originally distributed by Universal which distributed the PJ King Kong movie) due to Warner's possession of most of the non-Disney franchises. You probably want this movie to succeed because you want more Godzilla and other monsters. I have a few suggestions for you. 1) Calm down. Kong will probably do well overseas even if not in North America. Pacific Rim did better in China than DOM and it received a sequel from Legendary. Kong will probably defeat BatB in China, which nowadays is a very important market. Resident Evil will end up being a success because of China, maybe. However Kong does in DOM, Legendary and Warner are already proceeding with production on Godzilla: King of Monsters. By the time that movie hits theaters, Kong v Godzilla will have finished filming already. This film universe will for sure at least have 4 films total. 2) Use facts, not insults. Some, who you have attacked, are just giving their opinions, or basing their predictions for the movie's BO on social-media metrics, tracking, and pre-sale figures. People missed that Jurassic World (which was also produced by Legendary) would do better than 600 million, even with it doing so strongly in pre-sales. You could also use an example like Tarzan: http://variety.com/2016/film/box-office/bfg-box-office-legend-of-tarzan-1201796977/. For that movie, and BFG, the studios behind them said they were yet to unveil most of their marketing, even two weeks before release. Even the best estimates had Tarzan doing 30 million at most over 4 days. People here ran with that and predicted it would do something like 17 million. Even though RT percentage hovered around 30% at tiem of release, Tarzan ended up around 38 million its first 3 days and over 45 over the first 4 days. Like Kong, Tarzan was much overshadowed by a Disney movie. Finding Dory was the top DOM of its year (Rogue One spilled into 2017) and BatB is looking like it'll rule 2017 until the next Star Wars movie. 3) Enjoy your movie. Do not let the opinions of others, whether they're honest or trollish, bother you so much that you're feeling stressed over a movie.