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15 minutes ago, filmlover said:
Been in SAG-AFTRA's corner this whole time but they've definitely made some publicity blunders in recent weeks (that even SNL has made fun of) and Fran's continued statements, including this week, about how she doesn't need "male energy" to be a good leader (what does that even mean lmao? We're really still trying to score social media brownie points in 2023 huh) are winning over absolutely no one. She's doing an A+ job lately proving that she has no future re: her political ambitions, knowing all of this would come back to haunt her (and given society's double standards towards women, would actively sink her chances).
Fran's social media is cringe, using Gr8 instead of great makes her look like a fuddy duddy who can't use technology.
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8 minutes ago, grim22 said:
They received waivers. Hallmark would go bankrupt if they can't produce their Christmas movies, they immediately agreed to the terms because the strike fell right during prime shooting season.
It's always surprises me they film Christmas movies in the summer, I would have thought shooting in January or February would make sense
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This is a dumb question but are the numerous TV movies from Hallmark, Lifetime etc covered under the AMPTP or not? I imagine they shoot so many per year that you wouldn't really notice.
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17 hours ago, Eric Presley said:
If some of y'all need inspiration, you got a whole month of stuff to enjoy 👀
Some of that scheduling is pure genius.
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22 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:
8 billion for Disney is almost nothing though. In September they announced 60 billion for the Parks. 8 for full control of Hulu is honestly a steal, id have guessed at least 10.
It was rumoured to be high as $26bn.
The $60bn for the parks and other ventures is over 10 years but does show Disney isn't exactly going under.
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TBH I don't think Fran has come out this strike well at all.
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7 hours ago, WittyUsername said:
I don’t get why Disney is trying to buy Comcast’s share of Hulu when they’re in hard times financially.
Disney has a lot of money, the idea they're cash strapped is simply not true.
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TBH I'm surprised WDAS wasn't fully unionised.
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3 minutes ago, AnotherDayAnotherDollar said:
The Creator looked great and it was 80MM. What cost Marvel and Star Wars a lot of money is reshoot and actor/director premium pay. And probably cocaine and prostitutes for the execs.
You're clearly naive.....
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Just now, YM! said:
Tbh if you read the story, the budget of Across was about the same as a lower end Disney or Pixar before the Canada rebate.
I think it is possible to do Marvel and Star Wars movies on a cheaper budget so long as quality is there as 200m a feature just isn’t sustainable right now. For characters like Blade, Shang-Chi, Daredevil, Hawkeye, etc - an 100m to 130m budget can work. You could do a 150-175m budgeted Cap or Hulk and save 200m for big sequels and characters.
Star Wars has never been a cheap franchise, even the first film was $11m which was still $3m overbudget.
Marvel is dependent on the character, Spider-Man can't be done for under $150m for example and a new X-Men film probably isn't going to be cheap either.
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Just now, YM! said:
They do seem to be working on that but we likely won’t see the effects until 2025-26. The Pixar and WDAS actually need the budgets though. The 150-200m reports are not just what goes to make the movie but things that tend to be hidden in reporting like bonuses which no other mainstream animation studio gives to their employees, executives salaries, making new animation techniques that get used on in latter films and what is needed to keep the lights on.
Also currently, they’re the only animation studios right now still doing production in the US as most studios gone overseas to avoid paying normal fees as well as the only ones that are really trying to do new IP. I do think maybe doing 2 movies a year vs three every year will help with that.
With Elemental, you can see the budget on screen as well. I think if people want animation jobs to stay in the US, they shouldn't be calling for Pixar or WDAS to cut their budgets.
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4 minutes ago, AnotherDayAnotherDollar said:
One thing they should do is get the budget under control. Every Marvel/Star Wars/Disney Live Action/WDAS/Pixar film is 200MM+. Meanwhile other studios have some animated gems with less than half the budget. I really don't know why the budget for these films are that high. 20th Century is the only one that has had a decent budget for their films sans Avatar and as you mentioned they either have been relegated to streaming fodder or their output has been subpar.
I don't think you can make Marvel or Star Wars on the cheap without a noticeable dissolution of quality and cutting WDAS and Pixar budgets would see backlash. People go on about Illumination and SPA but in the case of the latter, the stories about the work conditions is a sign that cutting budgets isn't always a good thing.
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People are being majorly hyperbolic if they think Feige will be replaced or Marvel will be shut down by Disney. Even without the MCU, it's a major revenue driver for Disney.
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Amazon wouldn't be able to buy Disney, buying MGM was easy because that was a film and television studio. Disney are too big to bought, it'd be like Microsoft buying Sony.
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1 hour ago, Cmasterclay said:
Nevermind, this thread isn't about me, it is about solidarity with SAG. All I'll say is that people have been accusing me of being too negative since 2016 on here, and it may indeed be annoying, but they can't accuse me of being wrong that often.
Being too negative is one thing but some people on here with others take that to another level. It doesn't hurt to have happy thoughts once in a while.
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21 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:
I wish I agreed! Unfortunately, the behavior of the studio heads has prioritized cruely, ego, and attemps to divide unions more than good faith efforts - and this just feels like the "perfect" opportunity for them to try to whip people into a frenzy and break solidarity. I agree nobody knows anything and I shouldn't try to work out every thought I have by posting it, but it just is that pit of the stomach feeling for me today.
You really need to take a chill pill or a holiday.
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9 minutes ago, Simplyobsessed said:
Odeon are not showing Bottoms in any of their venues, and have pulled their Limitless members preview of Saltburn from the schedule. Suggests a dispute is going on with Warner Bros.
I imagine it'll be sorted by the time Wonka is released because there is no way they'll want to miss out on that films.
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6 hours ago, emoviefan said:
Now you are being too pessimistic.
It's BadlOlCatSylvester, he's always pessimistic and the BOT equivalent of Eeyore.
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3 hours ago, Porthos said:
I could in fact see it as a, perhaps minor, pressure tactic on the part of SAG. If there are some last minute minor hangups that could possibly be sticking points, SAG might be using this as a "Well, look, we're already making deals with semi-major players and your productions are gonna be at a disadvantage if you continue to hold out over super minor points."
Could be a coincidence. But, man, timing smells... interesting is how I would put it. Hell, could be that a deal is in fact "all but done" and Lionsgate wanted to be the first out of the gate and get a leg up on competition when it comes to promotion. "Daylight's burning" as the phrase goes.
As for asking for a waiver a month ago? Think if that was the case they would have tried harder to get it sped up since Saw X was coming out around then. But, yeah, could have been applied a while back.
TBH Expendables 4 was doomed either way and Saw X wouldn't have needed much promo from actors since it's a long running franchise. Hunger Games is really Lionsgate's last hope for 2023.
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1 minute ago, filmlover said:
Migration should move to next year if it still can, Universal's 2024 is going to need all the help it can get with so many of their currently scheduled movies caught up in the strike.
Personally I get the feeling we're gonna see a bunch of decent performers and a few underperformers but no breakouts this holiday season.
I suspect it's probably a bit too late to move Migration although it's not being released in many markets until February so there's a chance it could move.
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19 minutes ago, YM! said:
Wish and Wonka seem like the best breakout choices. The latter has good awareness and trailer views as well as a wide open slate for Christmas though a press tour would skyrocket it, and the former turned it around with an 11th hour marketing campaign promoting the music - all it needs is good reviews and good audience reception, which if it doesn't isn't anyone's fault but the movie. Both if they get good reception, should be within 200m domestic, the latter maybe moreso 350m.
Also think Migration, Aquaman and Songbirds can breakout as the former has Illumination which has usurped Disney as family film powerhouse, the middle is the first dude skewing in months and if it's decent can drum up decent business and the latter if as good as test screenings are saying, with The Marvels looking to die a last minute press tour could get it to 60m or even 70m OW. I thought Trolls had the juice at one point but it's not seeming to catch on as much as I thought.
Migration won't do badly but I don't think it's going to be another SLOP or even Sing.
I do find it funny that people are so down on Disney even though Wish looks like a hit.
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8 hours ago, filmlover said:
A down to the wire third act straight out of a movie!
You could imagine if it's done on the 31st October then LA based actors can use movie and TV related costumes which sucks for anyone based elsewhere.
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$65m for the FSS would be slightly off what Frozen got a decade ago so huge success. I think it'll be closer to what Moana did for its three day opening.
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It's interesting that it took until a decade and a half after Walt's death for Disney to go into adult oriented films with Touchstone as well as things like Tron and it saved them because both the animation department and the family live action films weren't doing well at the time.
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Kingdom of the Planet Of The Apes | May 10, 2024 | Wes Ball to develop and direct
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Looks decent, I wonder in terms of timeline if this become another trilogy if this is leading to the Apes becoming closer to the Apes of the original film and the landing of the Icarus.