Jonwo
-
Posts
16,672 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Events
Blogs
Gallery
Annual Subscriptions
Media Demo
Posts posted by Jonwo
-
-
Just now, YM! said:
I don’t feel Shawn Levy can make a critically lauded film but I suspect the General Audience will love it, especially with the likely nostalgia pandering that helped NWH with Wolverine.
Shawn Levy is why I think it'll turn out well, he can handle big scale as well as small scale.
-
4 minutes ago, YM! said:
Deadpool 3 is basically the litmus test of the saga. If it’s good, the MCU is good. If it’s bad then it’s truly joever, because the MCU for fans was supposed to improve on the Fox stuff.
I don't see it being a bad movie, DP1 and DP2 were well received and I think the MCU aspect is unimportant in this case as Deadpool is its own thing and more importantly Ryan Reynolds and Shawn Levy probably will be left alone with Feige concentrating on the actual MCU films for 2025.
-
1 minute ago, Zakiyyah6 said:
Ike Perlmutter is a disgusting racist and misogynist and I am very suspicious of anyone defending him.
It's no secret that Bob Iger hated him and moving Marvel Studios from Marvel Entertainment to Walt Disney Studios was one of those bullish chess move.
-
2
-
-
1 minute ago, Eric Danvers said:
Would be really nice if we just banned Marvel discussion altogether. Just leads to nothing good. Ohhhhhhhhh well.
But that would kill the site traffic if there was no Marvel or DC discussion. It's the prisoner's dilemma.
-
1
-
-
2 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:
Zero percent chance that happens. Marvel was worth 4 billion when Disney bought it and he's at least tripled it's value. Disney is not stupid enough to just hand him to Warner Bros
He couldn't go to WB anyway unless either James Gunn or Peter Safran stepped aside.
-
1 minute ago, Boxx93 said:
I'm not ready to call Marvel dead yet because we still have Deadpool 3 coming up next year (thank goodness), but yeah, the brand is really on life support right now and drastic changes needs to be made. Kevin Feige was succesful in the past because he was kept in check by a creative committee that made sure the movies where appealing and marketable in the toy industry and Ike Perlmutter made sure the budgets where reasonable. Ever since Iger got rid of Ike and the committee, and made Feige unchecked and unbound, the quality has gone way down, the toy sales are down and now the ratings in D+ and the box office has gone down, and the budgets are way out of control.
I know creative control and no studio interference sound lovely for artists and I support that, but too much creative control can lead to this kind of situation. Kevin Feige was no messiah, he was just really lucky to have insanely talented artist like Jon Favreau or James Gunn to make the MCU what it was.
Ike was terrible though, he was always a hindrance than a help. I think having too many projects on the go with TV and films was the issue and not having enough time to oversee them. This won't be an issue for DP3 or even the next Spider-Man because those have other producers overseeing them.
-
2 minutes ago, Johnny Tran said:
It's hard to fire a coach who has 4 or 5 rings. Yes, it's possible that the game has surpassed them and they'll never get their mojo back but because of what they've accomplished for the franchise they are going to get more time to fix things than some nobody who has never done anything.
Feige is going to get the chance to fix this.
That's true for anyone who has a flop or two. I know some were calling for Jennifer Lee's head after Strange World and Pete Docter's head after Lightyear and the first weekend of Elemental but that was just dumb.
-
2 minutes ago, John Marston said:
Why shouldn’t Feige maybe step down? He had a great run but this is the guy that thought Eternals was Oscar worthy, Ant Man was a banger, Captain Marvel was going to be the new face of the MCU, and is overseeing this multiverse plot which makes no sense and is incoherent
Who replaces him though, that why he's unlikely to be fired by Disney. People seem to think firing people is a solution but really it causes more problems if there is no one to replace him.
-
3
-
-
2 minutes ago, Arlborn said:
Hyperbolic statements are fun to make, I guess? I’m pretty sure I’ve seen some people in the MCU thread saying that they should cancel like 3-4 of their movies already on production or pre-production, they should spend a couple of years without making movies, they should fire Kevin Feige, etc. So then you’ll have exaggerated reactions and replies, that’s natural.
There was one person who said the MCU will be permanently unprofitable and Disney needed to do something else. Keeping in mind the chances of that happening are zilch. It's just silly hyperbole from people with no idea how Hollywood works.
-
Just now, Masketta Man said:
I think the ship might have sailed at the moment, but if I was the one calling the shots, I'd use the big guns that don't need introduction like Venom, Deadpool, Elektra, The Punisher and finishing the team with one or two new characters and Zemo as the leader, so kind of a "best of" the several rosters of the team.
Now if you told me before Endgame, I'd say that the building blocks should have been placed as soon as that movie ended, maybe a post-credits scene showing Zemo fleeing the prison and trying to build a team since the Avengers were over and go with the original team. Ant-Man 3 having Fixer/Atlas/Beetle as sort of a family of super villains to mirror the Ant-Family or Luis' crew, Moonstone being the antagonist of Captain Marvel 2 and Songbird being introduced on the start of the Thunderbolts movie, being the audience surrogate.
They can't use Venom without Sony's permission.
-
2 minutes ago, ZeroHour said:
To turn Cap 4 into a TV show would mean having to renegotiate the deals with all of the major talent involved. Probably not worth the time and expense especially at a time when they're moving away from the "6 hour movie" model for their shows.
Also you can't turn a movie into a TV series, they're structured in a different manner.
-
Anyone expecting Kevin Feige to be fired or Marvel Studios to be shut down is kidding themselves. They've hit a bump but it's not the end of the MCU or Marvel Studios themselves. I get the sense it was too late to save The Marvels and they just had to suck it up.
-
I imagine the Marvel movies are too expensive to be Disney+ exclusives and TBH I think we're going to see little to no original movies on Disney+ and the focus will on TV series and the library.
-
5 minutes ago, SpiderByte said:
No, I'm saying that they've already done it before with covid for two years. And now they're doing it again. After already six months of having shut down production with the strike. And restarting production on Daredevil from almost scratch. So if at the end of next year we still have to hear about how "why don't they just shut down production"
Only the WUMs on here want Marvel to make no content for a while and TBH it's not likely, they were always be Marvel content in some form every year. We have three SSU films for example plus Echo in 2024.
Even Batman and Superman which went through periods of no movies still had TV series whether live action or animated.
-
3 minutes ago, YM! said:
I honestly don’t get why they’re doing four films next year even with it being highly likely something gets pushed back. If they’re trying to stop content overload, I don’t think four films that year is the right move.
Deadpool 3 should be big but got a feeling it’ll be more akin to NWH/WF/Guardians in that it’ll be big but not enough to drive hype for the others.
I think DP3 will be the highest grossing of the DP films and possibly might be leg it if there is no competition in August.
Between Thunderbolts and Blade, it'd be easier to can the former. Blade being a darker character is an easier sell.
-
I know there is a cancel everything mentality but Disney won't be cancelling every Marvel content due to The Marvels underperforming. As @Shawn pointed in the MCU, Loki's finale was very well received so it's not all doom and gloom.
I do wonder if we might see X-Men pop up sooner than expected?
-
2
-
-
Just now, reddevil19 said:
The issue is they decided to go live-action with Shawn Levy for some reason.
I think Zelda has huge potential, but I don't know about this choice... I think a stylistic animated movie would be better. But hoping for a nice surprise.
Wes Ball is the director, not Shawn Levy.
People say video game films are the future but there has been just as many failures like Warcraft and 2018 Tomb Raider.
-
4 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:
Let's not do that...
-
1
-
-
1 minute ago, Shawn said:
I know there's going to be a lot of negativity flowing about The Marvels' opening this weekend, so I'm just popping in to contribute a bit of optimism and (perhaps) perspective that this absolute low-point for MCU's box office is occurring at the same time as what is, IMHO, one of its creative peaks with the culmination of Loki's second season on Disney+.
It doesn't get more ironic than that. But it gives me hope that Marvel still has plenty of foundation to build on and right the ship over the next 12-18 months now that the strikes are over.
The thing with the MCU and one of its big advantage is that it's more than just a single franchise so they can ride out The Marvels and next year's quieter slate with Deadpool 3 getting things back on track.
Deadpool being Ryan Reynold's baby means that I suspect Kevin Feige is more hands off compared to something like The Marvels and I could see it being the MCU's Aquaman in that it's a big hit coming off a disaster the year before.
-
1
-
-
11 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:
Thread is now unlocked. Any attempts at trolling and baiting or fanwars will get warnings and thread bans. So play nice
Absolutely no spoilers, no matter how vague, even under spoiler tags. And this applies to spoilers of recent shows as well, namely Loki S2.
Stop!! Hammer Time!!
-
5 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:
Getting my ban hammer ready.
-
1
-
1
-
-
1 hour ago, YM! said:
Honestly. Especially if mystery WDAS 2024 does turn out to be Zootopia 2.
Wicked is almost complete as well with just 10 days of shooting which they could do and still get it released on time.
I think December would be better anyway although if Universal want a head start, they could opt for November 15th,
-
Just now, BadOlCatSylvester said:
Try not to get threadbanned...
-
Ironically, I think despite less movies in 2024 I think Deadpool 3, IO2 and Zootopia 2 if the latter is confirmed might be the ones that helps Disney have a good year and I'm hopeful for KOTPOTA as well.
The Marvel / MCU Thread || From Blade to Secret Wars, All Things Marvel!
in Box Office Discussion
Posted
Given production is ramping up, I wouldn't be surprised if they add jokes about the MCU being a mess, Deadpool is the only character who could get away with it.