Cooper Legion
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Like, have you *really* thought about the numbers? What is it the supposed to do, 170*3 DOM, +50% from its actual performance in China, +35% OS-C from WW1... and still miss 1B by 20M??? The path simply isn’t there, numerically, and those are the facts. I wouldn’t agree to some “respect differing opinions” stuff if the claim was “WW84 would have hit 2B in a non-covid world” and the 1B claim is nearly as silly with all the information we now have,
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Cooper Legion replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
I don’t think they would blunt the OW per se, it’s more that the upper end of that range was for if it got actively boosted by really sensational buzz, like a 94% or something where everyone was raving for a week about how it was the new best DCEU movie and beat DC since TDK. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Cooper Legion replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
From Deadline today: My expectations for a non covid world are unchanged from my 125-160ish from a year ago, though I think the upper range is less likely with the reviews. -
We have 9 movies now right? Reception is something like: Great — WW, Shazam Good — Aquaman Mixed — BoP, MOS, WW84 Bad to terrible — SS, BvS, JL The whole point of a shared universe is to connect the future films with the quality of the previous one’s in the audiences mind. At this point it’s more of an anchor than a support, I truly think they would be better off cancelling it entirely and starting again with a new universe in a few years based on successful mostly standalone films. Especially since the crossovers are the main point of leverage, and the 2 films with big crossover elements are in the bottom bucket.
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Deadline had WW1 at just over 250M profit with 660 in rev and 400 in costs. Revenue coming down 25% to 500M would not be that crazy (this would take a less than 25% drop in box office afaik, since home and TV ancillaries are smaller than 2017)? Production budget is up 50M, marketing probably up ~50M, participation’s could be up near 25M if Jenkins and Gadot got that bag... it doesn’t seem all that hard to imagine a slight loss actually. But again, in reality, it’s being deliberately used as a loss leader by AT&T.
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Whether it end more like 19 or more like 21, very strong day. % of gross rose about 200% on Sat, then another 75%+ on Sun. Good occupancy, good Mon PS, let’s see where the day takes us. Mayhave a very nice little period at the CBO here after early Dec sucked, with Shock Wave 2 and Soul into LRF into CNY.
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Right after seeing 1st one, I thought “eh, that was okay origin story (tone was jarring for me as a minor World War 1 buff, but I liked that they at least gassed that village), but hopefully sequel can do something exciting with character in present day like TWS.” Like a year later it was announced that the 2nd entry would be another prequel and Steve would return, and I was like ... “uh oh.” If WW3 is set in the present and they don’t return Steve again as a crutch, good chance it will be my favorite of the trilogy.
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Cooper Legion replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Way more theaters are open right now than I expected, given the hospitalization, positive %, death, etc numbers. This looks like it will clear 10M anyway, honestly a positive indicator of audience interest in the big screen experience.