Cooper Legion
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Hearing a lot of "darker tone." I mean, it's still a WDAS movie that's meant to be showable to like, legions of 5 year old girls, so I doubt they take that too far -- but it has me a bit concerned. I liked the tone of the first one, which already had some dark moments/themes. Hopefully they make it work nicely.
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I mean, a lot varies depending on expectations, PS:OW ratio, and OW:total legs. The case of F2 is a complicated one since the only HW sequels to movies as big as the first have been Avengers entries, and those are front loaded fan affairs with huge PSs, whereas Frozen 1 was more of a great leggy run based on reception. I'm hoping F2 can pull at least 10M, but that will for sure require good reception. The road there would involve better PS:OW ratio and legs than Avengers style megahits, so it can get by with lower PS.
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PS pacing solidly so far, think we'll pass 60k tonight and at least near 100k tomorrow. From there I see a real chance to be the 3rd HW movie past 1M final PS (btw, what are the biggest couple PS for local films?). However, this is all pretty early and speculative. If you try to cite this post to complain about "just" 700k PS I'll throw a sandwich at you.
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Cooper Legion replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
I think this is happening to some degree. TROS+F2 might be pretty close in size to the CM+Endgame money sink from the first half of the year. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Cooper Legion replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
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No great comps yet, as PS started pretty and it's not like there are any other sequels to a 10M animation. But D-13 36k is quite good imo.
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For this to be true requires streaming to kill theatergoing mighty fast before inflation and market growth do their normal thing. When measured in a way that accounts for inflation, ERs, and market growth I think it actually is possible that we'll never see any future year match 2019, but it's very difficult to adjust for those things in a way that people will agree is correct/fair.
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Cooper Legion replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
Last Christmas reviews released this morning and are pretty bad. Midway same. Wouldn't explain Doctor Sleep though. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Cooper Legion replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
A difference of just 47 for thanksgiving and 14 for Black Friday seems likely caused by just running at different times and sales happening in between? Unless you mean the discrepancy in the denominators specifically. -
No. It made 440 RMB in the past 7 days. Even adding 3.5x that (via 22% weekly drops) would miss the top 10. This question did make me realize that as of late October, both My People, My County and The Captain passed F8, kicking it out of the top 10. The top 10 is now a full 50% 2019 films. Won't belong before you need 3B to enter.
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BOR copied us
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Cooper Legion replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
When you release movies titled Dark Fate and Playing With Fire back to back... -
Do you mean the same thing by this as "drops are higher than I would personally expect?" To me a higher hold sounds like e.g. 80% hold (-20%) vs a 65% hold (-35%). Whereas a higher drop sounds like a smaller weekend. I think Joker, Mal, TAF, Harriet will all beat those BOP numbers but Doctor Sleep and Last Christmas will go under.
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Cooper Legion replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
It's a great point that I somehow hadn't noticed before that this will actually be a schoolnight thursday, vs I2, TS4, and TLK which were not. It's super great to have people doing detailed efforts on previews, but for this movie in particular I think I'll be paying a lot of attention to Fri and Sat from the scrapers. -
This must be it, but I still don't really see the connection. Do some people get work/school off on election days?
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Cooper Legion replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
This just doesn't match with what we've been seeing for Thursday. Until I hear an argument otherwise I'm assuming that F2's fans just don't see a huge need to see it in the first couple hours possible, and it may turn in some (relatively) medium previews but with a very strong IM and days 4-10. -
The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo
Cooper Legion replied to grim22's topic in Numbers and Data
What the absolute fuck!?!?!?!? Over TLK's first week!? It was only 5 months ago that that opened to 190M. -
HOLY - (7) The Addams Family United Art… $1,048,867 +141% -5% 3,607 $291 $86,575,960 26 - (-) Arctic Dogs Entertainm… $427,887 +170% 2,844 $150 $3,487,942 5
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I was part of the "I won't see this on ow, but I will for cheap tickets crowd." It's getting what it deserves, unfortunately.