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    Superman | July 11, 2025 | James Gunn writing and directing | David Corenswet is Clark, Rachel Brosnahan is Lois

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    58 minutes ago, SnokesLegs said:

    Regardless of what the Snyder fans are screaming into the void, this was the best decision for the character. If they’d carried on with Cavill it’d always have had the baggage of BvS and two versions of JL with it, which would’ve limited its BO potential. This gives them a fresh slate.

     

    If you’re a fan of Superman the character, this is good news.

     

    Also, Cavill is less loved as Superman than Affleck was as Batman, and people still accepted Pattinson, so I doubt this will cause that much of an issue by the time the actual film comes out.

     

    Cavill has fans and I feel for them. But his take was muddled by polarizing movies and bad management. In the long run, this is great news for his career because he's free to sign onto other projects.

     

    As for the next actor who puts on the cape, I hope they get a better script.

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    Elemental | Disney/Pixar | June 16, 2023 | What if elements have feelings?????? 😱😱😱😱 | Surprise sleeper hit with the biggest 2023 premiere on Disney+

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    Denise Ream, producer of 'Elemental', in an interview with @ArrobaNerd :

    “Yes, you will cry, but in a good way. This movie is unlike anything Pixar has ever made. It's what we did in 'Soul' and 'Inside Out', but multiplied by 10”.

     

    https://twitter.com/almanaquedisney/status/1602800160500744193?t=TOEh5vzazFdiGl87dpCs0g&s=19

     

    The Warner Bros. Thread | Will NOT merge with Paramount...capitalism is still terrible

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    14 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

    A complete reboot is illogical. Wonder Woman and Aquaman proved DC doesn't need a reboot to succeed. The Batman doing less than those movies also shows how hard it is to sell a reboot even with everything done right (it had insane online hype, critical acclaim, and celebrated director and cast). Imagine what happens if they reboot the DCEU with some less than stellar movies. It's a risky gamble that could cause much more damage to the brand than a bad Wonder Woman 3 and Man Of Steel 2.

     

    The Batman still did pretty well considering that it's a reboot and that the box office landscape has changed because of covid. 

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    The Warner Bros. Thread | Will NOT merge with Paramount...capitalism is still terrible

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    52 minutes ago, excel1 said:

    To be blunt, if they're actually even remotely considering moving from Cavill and Gadot, they're extremely foolish. 

     

    To be honest, I think it's 50/50 with Cavill. If they bring him back, he'll need a major tonal rebrand to sell audiences who were lukewarm on Snyder's take. But you could also argue it would be less complicated to just recast so there's no baggage.

    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    4 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

    I think people are massively underrating the novelty of Avatar 2, it's the film with the most novelty since the first Avatar.
     

    We have the water of Avatar 2. People love water, and this film will have the best underwater shots every seen in film in glorious 4k 3D 48fps. The is a massive novelty.


    The visual improvements in Avatar 2 are higher than they were for Avatar. Back in 2009 we already had incredible CGI characters in OTC's Davy Jones and King Kong. What was impressive for Avatar was the scale of the CGI, the film was 70% cgi which was completely unheard of at the time. Avatar 2's visual improvemtns are in crazy water CG, massive advancements in animation and espcially facial animation. The Na'vi look far more real than any other CG character and are able to put forward the actors true performance much better.

     

    The true novelty for the first Avatar was that 3D had never been done good before, but for many audiences for Avatar 2, they have still never seen good 3D before. Think 8-18 year olds. Then even the people who have seen good 3D, haven't seen it in years. Avatar 2 will have the best 3D ever seen on screen.


    This movie is more groundbreaking than the first was. Which isn't really that big of a deal when you consider Jim has put more far more time & effort into Avatar 2 than the original.
     

    Also people might get annoyed by this but the quality of films in 2010s was lower than it was in the 2000s, so that helps too.

     

    This definitely has the novelty factor of a Force Awakens style film. 

    Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

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    Just now, Maggie said:

    I see. I don't think it will.

     

    I also think it's important to remember that even without the reaction The Last Jedi got, it was always going to have a big drop from what The Force Awakens made due to it not having the novelty of Star Wars coming back to the big screen after 10 years.

     

    Likewise, The Way of Water won't have the novelty the first Avatar did, but it should still be a big hit.

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