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19 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:
This isn't nuts - I'd probably put it Top 5, although I wish it was a summer opener, and not a spring one...
That's why I think it will fall short of a billion. It has no competition until May, but it won't have the legs needed to hit Minions or Despicable Me numbers.
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I'm still not willing to go one billion (yet). But this is gonna be a huge hit. $750-875M.
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Looks fun, but still a bit iffy on Pratt. Still gonna make a big chunk of change.
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7 hours ago, dudalb said:
The don;t get that nobody in the industry expects a unborken string of sucesses. what matters is how much porfit a division makes overall. WDAS and PIxar have nothing to worry about.
They got knocked down and they get back up.
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19 minutes ago, Jonwo said:
Honestly, Disney have survived bigger disasters than Strange World. Even Sleeping Beauty was a financial failure back in the day.
I do think certain people are revelling from Disney and Pixar not scoring a hit and it's also distasteful to say that heads will rolls as if people losing their job is something to be celebrated.
They'll survive this, but they'll definitely need to rebound quickly.
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8 minutes ago, kkccoo said:
Director or Jennifer Lee?
I can't see it.
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48 minutes ago, AniNate said:
I think both can handle one mulligan but they really need Elemental and Wish to deliver next year. It's definitely no bueno if this becomes a trend. At least when The Good Dinosaur bombed Pixar had a lock in Finding Dory afterward to soften the blow, but the slate of both studios now is a bunch of question marks.
Elemental looks way less controversial than Lightyear was:
- Simple Pixar-ian premise
- Easier to market
- More appealing to families
If it delivers on the quality (More like "Inside Out" or "Coco" than "The Good Dinosaur" or "Lightyear"), everything else will sort itself out.
Wish is going to be pushed hard since it's the 100th anniversary.
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2 minutes ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:
They did survive, yes, but at the cost of major layoffs and their Florida studio getting shuttered. Heads will roll over Strange World's failure. The question is: whose will roll first?
I think we've already seen heads role: Chapek, Daniel, Bochner, etc. Granted, not all of them are related to the animation division, but still...
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5 hours ago, Jonwo said:
I do think we need to cool down on the idea that WDAS and Pixar will be for the chop because of Lightyear and Strange World. If WDAS survived Home on the Range and Treasure Planet, they'll be able to weather this. Honestly some of the hyperbole from certain posters is just unbearable.
This. Everyone has the occasional bad day at the office. I'm sure they'll be able to bounce back from this next year. Both Elemental and Wish look much more promising.
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1 hour ago, Cappoedameron said:
Most hilarious shit I heard at thanksgiving dinner was my moronic parents celebrating Chapek being fired because he was woke. I told them you have to start listening to other news outlets aside from Fox News and One America cause Chapek was completely conservative and if they think he's woke then Iger may as well be an evil millennial.
He's the least "woke" Disney CEO in decades.... 😄
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Apparently, he was Chapek's Chief of Staff and Speechwriter.
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4 hours ago, dudalb said:
Not so much that, he tried to deceive stockholders.
Either way, it didn't work. And the fact that he tried to pretend that everything was okay with the stocks even that bad earnings call made things worse.
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3 minutes ago, AniNate said:
I think it's really hard for mainstream animation studios to execute a sci-fi adventure premise to a similarly satisfying degree as auteurs like Cameron or Lucas can. They can't really go hard on battle sequences or political allegories, so they're left with their biggest hook being nostalgia and homage.
The one recent exception is WALL-E, which I think sold itself largely on its central romance. If it were just about a robot trying to get a plant back to a space cruise ship full of fat humans, probably would not have been received as well. Representation aside, there doesn't look like a ton of novelty to the character arcs in Strange World based on marketing and reviews.
And even then, Wall-E made less than other Pixar movies at the time.
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Just now, cookie said:
Tbf, it opened on a weekday outside the summer or holidays. It was never gonna do well opening day.
The World Cup might have also been a factor. Besides, Thanksgiving weekend has almost always been Disney's usual slot for Animated films.
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31 minutes ago, BadOlCatSylvester said:
I'm really curious where in the Disney bomba scale it will land when all is said and done. Could it lose even more money than John Carter?
Maybe? It has a smaller budget, but Strange World be lucky if it makes even a fourth of the $284M that John Carter made.
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38 minutes ago, Morieris said:
"Hey, Bob....oh, you're in the limo on the way? How about you stop by In and Out Burger for a bit -- I know the concert starts in 45 minutes, but the thing is...."
If this gets adapted into a movie or TV series, I expect the "The Bitch is Back" to be playing in the background.
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14 hours ago, AJG said:
This might dampen any merger talks at the moment...
Good.
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3 hours ago, dudalb said:
If true, that is a major reason why he got the boot. Stockholder and the BOD do not like CEO's playing games like that. And he was stupid if he thought someone would not notice what he was doing.
Bob Chapek put all his eggs in the Disney+ basket at the expense of everything else in the company.
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29 minutes ago, AJG said:
Comrade Iger: Friend of the Working People?
All CEOs are greedy and narcissistic to some degree. But compared to Chapek, Iger at least seemed more human and personable.
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4 minutes ago, AniNate said:
I did say around this time last year, even if in the immediate aftermath it might've looked stupid given Encanto's eventual streaming success, that there is a "sameness" that is starting to take hold in Disney's feature length animated work. Very little to distinguish Strange World aesthetic wise from all the other recent WDA movies. They could use of a shot of the visual creativity they display in their Short Circuit programs to give their future movies a more interesting hook, and maybe greenlighting more personal ideas that are the kind of thing that keeps Pixar afloat. Can't say I'm very optimistic about Wish at the moment.
I think the best thing for them to do with Wish is to emphasize that it's celebrating 100 years of Disney Animation.
Elemental | Disney/Pixar | June 16, 2023 | What if elements have feelings?????? 😱😱😱😱 | Surprise sleeper hit with the biggest 2023 premiere on Disney+
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Looks stunning