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Candyman is well shot but it’s a mess of a film but that is a separate issue. With the MCU we know for a fact it’s extremely top down. It’s just a different beast, and that’s s problem if people involved are then not out talking about the film. I would like a more creative lead MCU but everything we know that does not exist.

I think the issue is what of her actual creative skill will be seen on film and what will be just Marvel doctrine. For their output Marvel have a shit director relationship, I think cynically they are going for people ticking social boxes (they are good directors and I will get to this) but we know the film is half built by the time many are onboarded. Increasingly Marvel are targeting directors who are young and up/coming, but who have they actually kept on for a follow up film? Spoke earlier about being a Doctor Who film and I can’t say impress how important a director can be. ] These are good directors but I think they are also fresh and Marvel are slightly using them. They make a good product but Marvel bring them in just to make the film they already have a storyboard and have started CG on. Like with their TV, I think Marvel need to change their approach to organisation of the films and give more unique creative voices. This is not hard. GotG already provides it, and proves that you can still tie it to the general MCU. I don’t think a director show runner is an insane idea to build for several franchises and then have a head show runner for the Avenger films.

My issue with these people has always been that the success of MCU is part of their identity. Not just enjoying the shows. I am a Doctor Who fan, all I want is more Doctor Who and I understand that success will jump up and down throughout the years. The problem I think is MCU has so much content but actually its in a weird spot where its not got stuff for fans or general audiences. Its all a bit muddled (though fixable).

I don't know why some are assuming that a writer of an article basically taking the higher ups lines and printing them, suggests anything other than them probably doing this again. Clearly some lines coming from within Marvel to try to burn the connections with The Marvels and sell their future plans as the priority. Could have just called it Captain Marvel 2. No acceptance this was an issue as far as I can see. They must have seen signs this was a mistake earlier in the year (unless they plan to burn this and make a future film CM2?).

Disney is a mess to buy. As a company they really should sell some things off and significantly downsize but I don’t see out an outsider can come in and pay more than Disney would make on those individual sales overall. to some degree I think their anti M&A strategy is to be a bit of a mess.

Just hearing about the Daredevil move. Really smart by Disney but I think supports what some of us have felt regarding their decision to cut off/ignore their outsourced TV projects. So happy to see them re-embrace those and probably (hopefully) give the TV side a bit more autonomy.

It really can't be that difficulty to just ditch Kang at this point and replace him with another multiverse character. Stick that evil Strange in and your done.

Strange is a lead in Avengers and Spider-Man. So the gap is not that odd. The cliffhangers are sequel bait but the point in sequel bait is to see what happens. if MCU is going to be pre announcing their film slates they should probably include their planned sequels to keep people caring. Right now there is zero sign these threads will be built on until the next Avengers. Compare to phase 1-3 and the three leads have a major title every two years including Avengers films.

This is what I number one most don’t understand about the current MCU. Where is Shang Chi 2? It ends on a cliffhanger. Where is Doctor Strange 3? It ends on a cliffhanger. Why is there not s film called Captain Marvel 2? Like build on your shit. No one reads the comics. Literally less than 5% (and I am being extremely fair) reads the comics and knows who the illumanti are.

How are we back to the Chapek/Iger nonsense. Two faces of the same coin.

Deadpool is a franchise which is literally about mocking the MCU and parodying it heavily. Not every film linked to the MCU is popular because it’s connected to the MCU. Anywya on the wider discussion I just want to say if you think this is bombing because Brie can’t go on TV then wtf are you doing ignoring that Captain Marvel (a billion dollar franchise) 2 is called ‘The Marvels’ featuring a team up with TV actors.

I can’t stand Iger wankery. The guy literally kept his office. All decisions around D+ stem from him. Iger not Chapek did not decide how the MCU TV shows would be run. They did not decide the bizzare cutting and choosing of how non-MCU properties would be treated. Iger and Chapek wanted to churn their content out for D+ to succeed when in reality D+ succeeded off families wanting to get their kids free access to the marvellous Disney back catalogue. Iger fucking chose Chapek as his successor. Kept his office. And replaced him. How people can be non sushi cal about that astounds me. Disneys corporate side is a total shambles.

I actually agree with this but only because Doctor Strange and Iron Man were not really known by general audiences until they made their debut. The point though is not every superhero is interesting. Games show this very very well. Why do Spidermen games do this so well? Because we want to swing like Spider-Man. It’s the entire draw. It’s movement/momentum is more interesting than Superman moving in a straight line through the air. So they do gangbusters. So you will always have a limit of interesting heroes. The point is to build on those and make franchises. The MCU has arguably changed the Thor name forever with it likely making audiences think of the MCU character rather than the true folklore God. But the MCU by being continuous is an obstacle to just churning out stories with these characters. I still think DCs wire ‘let’s have multiple Batman’s’ will fail but it’s going to be super interesting how that performs and is probably going to be the most influential thing in the industry for many years to come.

I will add I think Marvel fans are way over estimating the excitement the Fantastic 4 will draw in, I just don’t see audiences getting over the bad taste of the prior films. Though I do think it’s Marvels best unused asset right now. They really need a Guardians 1 situation of a slam dunk film but I do worry they will instead trend towards random cameos/other Avengers being in the film.

The problem is fatigue is caused by the breakdown down of audience expectations. Blue Beetle could have been a 5 star Oscar worthy film, but if people don’t engage with the product because it’s ‘another super hero film’ then they won’t see it. We are in western territory and that’s really not Marvels fault, but there’s just been too much rubbish out there for too long. GOTG3 I maintain is not a super hero film which explains its success but ATSV shows that if you are different enough (and have one of the ‘core’ superhero’s) then you can do well. I think there is an arguement the MCU will hold Marvel back over time when really we should have a new Iron Man already and be set for a new trilogy of Iron Man films. They are trying to do that with Captain America but they have had to go with a poorer actor because that’s what the MCU behemoth demands.

Not a sequel which is literally the unforced error of this entire project.

Problem for Marvel isn’t he MCU as a concept can’t really survive making ‘boring’ money. Solo films making boring money can mean Avengers making boring money which simply can’t work for them to support their level of output.

FUCK I figured it out. This is really just a remake of Beauty and the Beast. The set pic is at the end of the film as Snow White heads off for a new adventure.

Some people are going to be shook that a white woman looks white. Who knows at this point what they are doing with the dwarves, I think it’s both possible this is being reworked but also entirely possible the ‘dwarves’ in this picture are separate from the gang we also have seen in set pics.

Still haven’t seen Quantum but didn’t realise the trailers were also a lie. That stuff does hurt the brand when it’s for no reason than to lie about the product.

People don’t seem to understand what a RT score actually is for some reason.

Why are people acting surprised Marvel is using a credits scene to tie their different films together and using that to hype he existing and future films?

You can add Logan and DP2 together and they don’t reach this, and I am entirely ignoring the fact there is significant crossover between the two. Your talking about doubling the highest ever grossing R rated film and being in the top 5 highest grossing of all time because…Hugh Jackman is in it. Logan made under 700M. Days of Future Past under 800M. DP1/2 under 800M. But magically DP3 is hitting 2 bill.

It’s a series which each instalment makes just under 800M. It’s already blown up. When people talk about blowing up what do they actually mean here?

MoM made its money by being led by two very popular characters. Not because of 30 second cameos. X Men films have a ceiling and I don’t know why people pretend they are the most popular CBMs out there. DP2 did very well, it’s sequels hitting similar numbers is also very good. Jackman Wolverine and DP fans already have significant crossover