MovieMan89

As wonderful as like a dozen Pixar films are, none are still quite on BatB/TLK level.

Oops, Tele got me saying "genre" for animation instead of medium now.

Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King are sheer works of art. Nothing outside of a few Miyazaki films can touch them in the genre.

If I hear a cat talk and it's Eric Robert's voice, then the belief of re-incarnation must be true.

Top 10 talking animal films adjusted for inflation at the BO: 1. 101 Dalmatians - $857m 2. The Lion King - $764m 3. Mary Poppins - $670m (maybe shouldn't count since talking animals are only in like one scene) 4. The Jungle Book (1967) - $632m 5. Shrek 2 - $609m 6. Pinocchio - $578m 7. Bambi - $546m 8. Finding Nemo - $528m 9. Cinderella - $517m 10. Lady and the Tramp (soon to be replaced by Dory) - $478m

All the other talking animal flicks better bow down.

Bourne should be the first to land in that range, with Trek and Pete's Dragon maybe joining soon. I of course think SS is going way above 330, but not a common opinion I know. By the end of the year we could have a lot. Magnificent Seven, Sully, The Girl on the Train, The Birth of a Nation, Doctor Strange, Trolls, Billy Lynn, Beasts, Moana, Passengers, and Sing are all contenders for that range. Also last summer was a very similar feast and famine at the BO if you're wondering the last time this happened. It seems to be the new summer trend. Or the new trend in general outside of fall/Holiday.

Nah, fishnets was kinda crazy but was fairly sweet when you stripped that away. I mean, except towards the Otto-man empire of course.

Yeah, maybe it doesn't hit 300 like I think, but the chances of it missing 200 have to be like 1%.

But Moana is opening when there will have been no direct competition for like 2 months. Sing will have had Moana and Star Wars hit its audience right before release. Makes much more sense to be the fatigue plagued one of the two to me. But again, I'm the last person that is going to doubt the super powers that are Illumination's marketing. So I still say 250+ for it. Haha, that I didn't know. But hey, Lee has a rock solid track record of these kind of Oscar bait flicks of his grossing 100+. He took a gay cowboy drama to 100m (adjusted) back when homophobia was still everywhere in the country. And besides, dat Vin Diesel track record...

BH6 was based on such a niche comic though, and it kinda showed. Certainly not as mainstream leaning as your typical superhero film. Also, it skewed male which is not where the big hits are today. You gotta have that female audience, hence why Tangled and Frozen did better than Ralph and BH6. Moana should be set for girl appeal and The Rock's character at the forefront in the marketing ensures the boys aren't excluded either. Sing could go either way. It would be foolish to doubt Illumination (and talking animal) movies at this point, but at the same time it is coming at the very end of a massive year for animation. Right after Star Wars too. Maybe some fatigue will finally set in?

Billy Lynn has it all to be the adult domestic breakout of the Holiday. American war hero, an Oscar darling director, a little football. WOM could be huge among the older crowd. A mini Blind Side run won't surprise me in the least.

And I think Moana and Billy Lynn could upset both that month. Moana - 315m Beasts - 240m Billy Lynn - 210m Strange - 160m

It certainly hasn't had anything in the marketing to really hook the GA unlike Ant-Man marketing's snarky self awareness and Thomas the Train gag. Just a lot of weird shit happening in the trailers for no discernible reason. Inception it is not.

Funny you should bring up Lilo and Stitch, because I would use that as a primary argument for why Moana can crack 300. If it sells as many tickets as Lilo and Stitch and you add it 3D it would make along the lines of 240m. However, Lilo and Stitch hit in Disney's post-renaissance dark age, so their brand name wasn't very strong at the time. Moana has the benefit of opening when Disney animation's brand name is the strongest its been since Pocahontas' release. And you may say Pocahontas under-performed, but that was due to less than stellar reception and even "under-performing" it adjusts to nearly 300m today. So I think there are very good chances for Moana to hit that mark. 250 for sure. Also you said top 16 not top 10 in the post I quoted of yours, so that's what I was referring to for many of those other films.

I actually low key forgot for a moment that AM got as close to 200 as it did. Yeah, I for sure think DS will do worse.

The marketing for AM was pretty effective at making it look far less ridiculous than the name would have suggested. The Thomas the train bit got HUGE reactions every time I saw it in theaters. DS just looks *ahem* strange, and given it's not anchored by any character the GA recognizes I think it's got some problems. If it's well liked it can do AM numbers, but otherwise I think as low as 150 can happen. Especially with November being packed with the likes of Trolls, Beasts, Billy Lynn, and Moana all of which could cut into some part of the typical MCU 4 quad audience.

I'm thinking Dr. Strange only does Ant-Man numbers. I don't think marketing has been very good for creating hype and he's of a similar unknown status to the GA as Ant-Man. Besides if CBM fatigue is ever setting in this year, I'd expect it to be on that.

Tele gon' crack the cane on us and reminisce of the good ol' roaring 20's.

Yeah, that would be it I think. So I guess maybe Beasts has a shot at #10, but that's the absolute highest. Will have to get past Sing too, which I'd say will be 250ish. Lol, I wasn't adding it either. So yeah, #11 or 12 then for Beasts.

Considering it might take 300m to make top 10 this year, I agree. But will at least do more than 200, that's not a reasonable ceiling.

Hey we have polynesians, Jason Bourne, a boy and a NON-TALKING dragon, Denzel's cowboys, football, some chick on some train, and JLaw in space to potentially add to Star Wars, wizards, superheroes, and talking animals in the top 16. So HA, take that no diversity whiners!!

The Lorax is an awful movie. Pets is an ADD movie.