MovieMan89

The reason any of us are prediction so high for TFA is nostalgia. Even if the movie has amazing WOM, we all know nostalgia is going to play a huge role in its success. Most other record breakers haven't had that luxury. They had to do it primarily off of WOM.

I actually like it. I'm just trying to figure out why a movie that has way more criticism than the typical box office record smasher is record smashing. Nostalgia. Hell, everyone was basically admitting that last week, but now all of a sudden people are acting like that's crazy talk? Not sure why all of a sudden people don't want to admit to the nostalgia factor here?

Wait, now you're saying WOM broke the OW? Ok, that really makes no sense. WOM is never the driving force behind OWs.

Not the same as TPM/JW's nostalgia though, which drove adult fans of the originals to take their kids. Can you imagine how much business JW is taking in if most of the now adult kids who loved JP are taking their kids to JW? That's a shit ton of business, and that wouldn't have anything to do with WOM. Were people really even taking their kids to a movie like TDK? God, I sure hope not.

Shrek 2 was very well received by critics and audiences when it came out. I remember WOM all over the damn place for that one.

Not what I suggested at all. Read my posts please. I suggested WOM is good but not great. It's the good WOM combined with the nostalgia factor unlike any movie since TPM that is getting it these numbers.

Titanic, TPM, Spiderman, TDK, Avatar, Avengers, JW... these are the true box office phenoms of the last twenty years. Now all I'm saying is I don't think it's a coincidence that TPM and JW are the only ones of the bunch not to be highly praised at release by the likes of critics and audience rating sites, and also the only two where nostalgia was a factor. Again, I'm sure the general audience consensus of JW is one of being liked, but like TPM I think the nostalgia is making up for the fact that WOM probably isn't as strong as it was for those other 5.

Unlike TPM, JW won't sell as many tickets. So again, how do you know the WOM is the main driving force here? There's too much nostalgia at play in this one to tell. That's a factor we haven't had to consider for a box office phenom in quite some time.

It's a possibility it doesn't have "great" WOM. Considering TPM had that same "nostalgic parents introduce their kids" phenomenon happen that made it a box office monster. Unless you want to argue TPM was that big because of WOM, but good luck with that.

Oops, better check my meter.

As I said, I think the majority are definitely liking it. I'm not convinced the majority are loving it is all. I think it's that whole nostalgic parents of the original taking their kids phenomenon that is truly driving the insane business. Pretty much exactly what happened for TPM. That movie didn't need amazing WOM to be huge.

It's not that hard to believe though just judging off of critics and people here. There are a fair share here not liking it and a fair share of critics not liking it. Also IMDB score isn't stellar either. I think it's a movie that is very easy to go see in the summer and kids as well as nostalgia are helping it a lot. I don't think it's being as widely loved as some other big box office hits though, despite the numbers. If anything I think there's a lot of people out there that are liking not loving it, but that's been enough to drive the business combined with those other aforementioned factors.

I broke my first TLK VHS, I watched it so much. The second one got its usage too.

94-95 was amazing for my 4-5 year old self with TLK and Toy Story mania hitting those years. You don't even wanna know the merch I had from both of those movies...

Kids+ dinos are a helluva combination. I know I thought there was nothing cooler when I was 8 or so.

It was to be expected though. There have been people on this board dying to see that franchise fail since the first THG, and they finally got a little scrap to feast on with MJ1's under-performance. So now it's going to be nothing but doom and gloom from them until the OW (maybe) shuts them up. Of course then the 2x multi talk will probably start from them.

True, nostalgia can be a powerful draw if played right, and you're dead on about the likes of TA,TDK, and Avatar not having that to their advantage like JW does.

Cool that you can love its run w/o liking the movie instead of complaining like a lot of us would, lol.

Well looks like LG is already trying to tap into the game aspect again judging by how that first trailer ends. At the very least, MJ2 will have action again, which is something MJ1 barely had.

Well yeah, but I mean I already know more people not liking JW than I did TA, TDK, Avatar, etc. My own anecdotal experience with those movies at the time was that only the odd guy out was disliking them. Again, this is anecdotal though obviously.

I like JW and all, but nothing about it can compete with anything about TA1 for me. If I could go back and relive those opening week screenings I saw of TA I totally would. They were just so much damn fun.

My Mom hated JW, and typically loves the summer blockbusters. 1 of my 4 friends who have seen it hated it too and 1 was ambivalent towards it. So I don't think it's being universally liked or anything. Yet that box office doe....

MJ1 did 40m more than DH1 though, and THG has proven with all 3 films to be nowhere near as frontloaded as Potter was. Yet look how close DH2 still got to 400. And only the first Potter tops THG and CF's admissions. It couldn't be more obvious to me MJ1 was a fluke. Bad year at the box office, bad marketing, and part 1 syndrome combined for an unfortunate decrease. MJ2 on the other hand has both the finale effect and a great year at the box office on its side. Now if it can just get the marketing, it will definitely be huge.

Yeah it is. Even with shit marketing it will get there. It's the finale, MJ1 was well received and had a strong multi, and this year has taught us how dead last year really was. People just weren't going to movies. They most certainly are again. It makes no sense why a huge chunk of the audience that saw both the first two wouldn't come back to see how it ends. It's definitely going to be a DH1 to DH2 situation.

Yeah. It could get downright nasty for IO that weekend given how huge Minions is going to open. The drop will not be pretty.