#ED Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 STID is not a failure but its gross is seen as a disappointment to many because it made less than the first domestically despite added 3D and being a follow up to a well received film. No matter what people say, nothing will convince me that that is not somewhat disappointing Disappointing? To us? Sure. It increased 60M WW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 IM3: 2.3x FF6: 2.4x STID: 3.1x (From 3-Day) 2.6x (From 4-Day) Again, currently the best legs of the Blockbusters. (Not including WHD,WWZ and MoS yet) MU... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Disappointing? To us? Sure. It increased 60M WW. yes it increased less than 100m worldwide despite added 3D, a huge China gross (the highest market I believe and the fact is they don't keep the majority of the gross) and 4 years of expanding markets. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 come on ED, you know better than that It needed somewhere in the range of $550-600M to break even at the box office. Well if that was the case, the first one must of lost money as well. Even with the 250M+ Domestic gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 (edited) MU... Animation movie? Really? They don't ever count in this. They're all like guaranteed a 3x multiplier. Edited July 8, 2013 by #Despicable ED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Disappointing? To us? Sure. It increased 60M WW. Which is a small and disappointing increase, especially with the increased budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 It increased 60M WW. And it cost $40M more to make. Not a good trade-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 IM3: 2.3x FF6: 2.4x STID: 3.1x (From 3-Day) 2.6x (From 4-Day) Again, currently the best legs of the Blockbusters. (Not including WHD,WWZ and MoS yet) Hmm, not counting animated movies, is WWZ going to have the best legs of the summer? (Of the really big films, of course.) That would be crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 And it cost $40M more to make. Not a good trade-off. But if you're saying it needed to make 500M+ for it to profit, then the 1st one needed about 400M+ to profit. So they're both failures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Hmm, not counting animated movies, is WWZ going to have the best legs of the summer? (Of the really big films, of course.) That would be crazy! I hated IM3, but I don't think it's that bad of a movie. 406M is HUGE! But I definitely did not expect a 2.3x in legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 (edited) Animation movie? Really? They don't ever count in this. There all like guaranteed a 3x multiplier. So when you said best legs of the summer you were really comparing to just a couple of other films. One of them being the perennially frontloaded Fast And Furious series, and the other opened over twice as much STID Edited July 8, 2013 by Tower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 But if you're saying it needed to make 500M+ for it to profit, then the 1st one needed about 400M+ to profit. So they're both failures? The 2009 ST had some pretty small overseas numbers. It was probably not profitable at the box office, but probably did okay after home video, tv, etc, came in. That said, the "first one" in reboots or series like this is sometimes expected to be a bit of a write-off, as studios spend money to try to attract people to a new franchise. They don't neccessarily expect to make all their money off of one movie, but hope that one movie can build a franchise for them that will be profitable down the road. STID really didn't pay off for them quite as big as they had hoped, despite the bigger budget and the addition of 3D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 (edited) STID is proof Star Trek will never be of the big boys in franchise land. OS just don't give a fuck. Edited July 8, 2013 by The Futurist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I hated IM3, but I don't think it's that bad of a movie. 406M is HUGE! But I definitely did not expect a 2.3x in legs. The "problem" there is that it's opening weekend was just so huge. It was the first big event film of the year, and is also likely to turn out to be the overall biggest event film of the year. There was a huge rush to see it on opening weekend. Unlike so many films we're seeing right now, IM3 really had no competiton for screens and showtimes in theaters. I think it had nearly twice as many showtimes as something like MOS did at my local theaters. There were a few sellouts, but for the most part, anyone that wanted to see it on opening weekend was able to see it on opening weekend. That's the big benefit of being the first big film to kick off the summer. The theaters have lots of screens and showtimes available, so IM3 was able to meet a lot of its obviously high demand on opening weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 STID is the proof that Star Trek will never be of the big boys in franchise land. OS just don't give a fuck. I'd much rather see a new ST tv show than more movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Okay I asked yesterday but where do you get the list of the top theaters anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 It may be no Zxyxzy Road or Storage 24 (the lowest grossing film of the year), but here is a winner: http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=hammerofthegods.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Okay I asked yesterday but where do you get the list of the top theaters anyway? When RTH posts them, other then that I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 When RTH posts them, other then that I don't know. Where does he get them though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitik Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Where does he get them though? probably from the actual hard data in front of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
